Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sarah Sarill on September 17, 2005, 08:51:15 pm
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Gave an existing customer one of my wfp explanation newsletter today and he suggested I promote a mobile (exterior) car cleaning service. He drives a top of the range Merc and WONT ut it through a car wash because of the detergents and harsh brushes.
He said he would welcome a weekly clean so have any of you guys been approached or done any as part of your business.
I've dont the van windows and the Mrs' car and it does work well.
Regards,
Sarill
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HI Sarill
I do my van and the cars every week, the only thing i would suggest, is to use a very soft brush. I bought a water fed car brush on a pole for i believe £20 on ebay and it does the business fine.
Andrew
P.s. they come up really shinney and spot free ;D
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i.e dont use a monofilament brush it will scratch the paintwork
dave
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Does pure water activate rust quicker than normal water then cos if it does I'd better stop using it on the old van !!!
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Hi Sarill
Judging by the rust spots appearing on my van, i would say YES
Andrew
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Better not diversify into that one then. Especially on top end cars !!!!!
Well back to the drawing board for some winter revenues !!!!
Regards,
Sarill
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On a couple of sites I do I'm asked to clean cars. I charge £5 and it takes 5 mins. Pays the ever increasing fuel bill! Ionic now market a car cleaning kit. Pure water cleans cars really well without detergent although you need a cloth for the weels.
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Poles Apart,
Have you found that the water does attack the rust then ?
I am aprehensive to start promoting this if the water reacts to even the tiniest rust spot but if the trolley is out and its quick money in the winter months I am up for it !!!
Regards,
Sarill
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I'm not so sure that pure water would make a car rust quicker than say, rain water.
I'm also positive there's a new product out - designed to clean cars - that's meant to fliter the water, ie make it pure to leave your car clean. It's designed for domestic use and probably works as well as those squeegies you see sold at markets.
Also, I may be wrong here, but surely rainwater must be fairly pure. It's evaporated into the sky without its impurities and falls to the ground, or on your car! It may collect impurities from the atmosphere on the way down though!
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Tosh, I also saw that one advertised on TV.
Wonder if its worth doing when your rained off the windows during the winter months ?
Would you pay to have someone clean your car at home ?
How much would you pay ?
Regards,
Sarill
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This is about as good an idea as wheels on the feet of your ladder. ::)
Pure water will take the polish or wax straight off it, so Mr.Lazy then has to polish his car instead of washing it.
It's like using Fairy,
All the shine will be gone, and with it any protection,
Hence, matt cars will just fade, and god knows what it will do to laquer on a metallic.
You must use wash-and-wax to preserve the proper polish.
Take it from a valeter...
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Sarill
Iwould imagine that it would attack rust 'faster' but then I don't get asked to clean rusties. Never one to turn down easy money though!
Poles Apart
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Pure water will take the polish or wax straight off it, so Mr.Lazy then has to polish his car instead of washing it.
It's like using Fairy,
All the shine will be gone, and with it any protection,
You must use wash-and-wax to preserve the proper polish.
Take it from a valeter...
Thanks for your experienced comments squeeky Clean, however I dont know what a matt car is. Is this some car valeting term for a car finish ?
Also how many washes would it take to break down the surface without polishing after the pure water ?
I'm with you poles apart - hate to turn down money especialy during the winter !!!
Regards,
Sarill
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Thanks for your experienced comments squeeky Clean, however I dont know what a matt car is. Is this some car valeting term for a car finish ?
My apologies Sarill.
I didn't mean a matt finish, that would be a pretty dull car! :-\
What I meant was a plain gloss colour as opposed to a sparkly metallic.
Like you say, if they're happy to pay it let them.
I just said it would take the shine off that's all.
Cheers, Roger.
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Roger
No need to apologise for my silly question - cant you tell i am contmplating some pretty diar additional revenue ideas eh !!!! wfp Car cleaning - who's have thought !!!!
How many clean do you think it would take to notice the finish fading ? (my real question is how long do you think I can get away with it before they start asking questions) :P
Regards,
Sarill
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What you do wouldn't fade the paintwork itself (at least I don't think so).
What I mean is, after one clean you'll take away any polish and the polymers in it.
This means the car has no sun protection, and will fade over time.
How long depends on how new and how good the paint is.
But a Bmw will still fade like a Lada, honest!
You've surely seen ex-red cars going about which are a flat pink.
This is what happens to cars which aren't polished.
I've had it happen in as little as two weeks, depends how sunny it is.
It mainly affects top surfaces, ie:bonnet, boot, roof.
Shouldn't be a problem on modern metallics, but I don't know how pure water will affect the laquer. ???
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Never done so much typing! :o
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I have found that pure water discolours my tee shirts, I also seen to get quite a few holes.
Would pure water that comes into contact with the paint of a car have an effect? don't know, but I don't think I will try just in case.
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What are some of the potential issues with DI or RO water?
Deionized water is very aggressive from a chemical perspective—which means that it can begin to dissolve almost anything it contacts, increasing corrosion on your plates and press components, unless your fountain solution contains corrosion inhibitors. This type of water can also lead to over-emulsification of inks.
not my words ,taking from an extract from the printing industry
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That;s ok - - you need to excersise your whole hand sometimes. ;D
I'll take it from the expert. ;D
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When water moves through the DI resin beds, it can begin to wear channels, allowing untreated water to pass through the resin bed without being completely deionized. This results in water of "unknown quality" mixing with your DI water. Chemical changes in the resin beds can be caused by organic substances, excess chlorine, or high levels of oxygen in the incoming water supply. When the resin beds are fouled or oxidized, their exchange capacity is reduced, resulting in higher costs for your DI water.
RO water is chemically unstable. The RO membranes act to concentrate dissolved gases in the treated water, at a level 2 to 4 times greater than the incoming water supply, depending on its characteristics. This means that carbon dioxide variations in the incoming water are actually amplified during the RO process, Another variation can result from storing the water in translucent plastic tanks with unprotected air vents, common on many RO systems. Light promotes biological growth, and the air that is introduced into the tank carries spores and organic matter that can promote contamination
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Graham i did not think you would be interested for one minute you seem to have the attention span of a plank of wood ;D ;D
somebody might read it i would of not put it there otherwise .
please let me know if anyone reads it ;D
at least all that stuff is clearly understandable ,just like most of your posts realy
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I’ve been car Valeting almost as long as I’ve been window cleaning.
I have been Valeting with filtered water since working with the water fed poles
I have never noticed any degrading of the cars polish in fact I would say the opposite is true
because I now don’t have to use any detergent to clean the cars, if you were to look at one of my regulars cars I am sure you would agree.
However I don’t use any brushes on my cars soft or otherwise they scratch believe me I’ve seen it.
And I still leather the cars off not because I’m wored about spots or runs but because I always find a small triangle of dirt left behind by the sponge.
The only motor I use a brush on and leave to dry without leathering off is my van
kevin