Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gavin pedley on September 08, 2010, 03:09:23 pm
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How do you do it? with squeege etc.
I have been asked to price a job including insides but i am still struggling to get to grips with squeege. Still getting dirt smears almmost like a streaky haze when looking at the windows in certain lights. i have used new rubber and unger liquide can anyone help me with this, just can't get to grips with it.
What can i do with job i havew to quote tomorrow, say i can not do insides?
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In my opinion, the insides are the Absolute Cream. if only all my round had me doing the insides every time id be Raking it in
i use a wagtail flipper with a spray bottle on my belt . Spray a couple of squirts on the window,then mop with wagtail and then fan the window as per normal .
i have a fresh scrim as i step through the door and use the scrim to detail /mop up
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Is it the angle to the glass that you are holding the squeege maybe? If you're using a new rubber and squeege off then there's not much else it can be. Price well for insides as they can be right dirty and dried on when you look up close.
Tom
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is it a house or pub?
practise on your own windows, try using fairy, i never like the unger stuff
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practice practice and practice some more, use fairy and and when finishing the glass stand back and try looking at the glass and not through it and tidy all your mistakes with a scrim,
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i use to practise on the back door, as it was easy to look all around on
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I have been practicing just cant get it right they look ok untill i come back to then a few hours ;ater and can see smears all over them, i don't want to do a bad job on the ladys house so may not do it for now :-[
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I dont mean to sound pedantic, although it probably does come across that way, but why have you put all that stuff on your website about being professional and guaranteeing a great job etc, with pics of someone in your biz uniform blading a window when you cant clean windows?
You need to practise, practise and practise some more on your own place. If you cant do the job dont try to sell yourself.
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Sounds like you need more practice. I swear by GG3 for trad cleaning, other people may have different opinions but I love it.
As you are just starting off, if you can't get the hang of fanning yet why not just do straight down pulls with the squeegee?
I use a microfibre cloth for detailing but some people prefer scrim, the choice is yours.
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if you are getting a haze with unger, its the ratio of the mix that is the problem. are you mixing to what they say. 100/1 i found was too weak with the hard water i have and found 75/1 better. i ditched unger liquid becase of this and moved to glimmer as it is not so fussy.
other than that clean water and a clean applicator should help
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Gavin,
A word of warning... Over the last 5 years of window cleaning I have picked up many new customers for the sole reason that the window cleaner they were using couldn't do insides properly, or refused to do them because they couldn't do them.
As has been said just practise practise practise until you get it right, and then practise some more!
Also... I use fairy for trad cleaning - Never had any problems at all :)
Andy
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You could always use microfibre clothes. One damp and then some dry ones to 'polish' up. Spray a little pure water onto window and wipe away.
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This post just proves that being able to trad IS important.
As already stated, practice practice and the practice some more. Cleaning your own windows at home will not get you up to speed as your customers will have all different shapes and sized windows that will be new to you each time.
Good luck if you do decide to do the job though.
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It must be the angle youve got the sqeegey at ive used all the different detergaents over the years but always come back to fairy as it does the same job! its not the tools mate its your technique! get practasing, when youve done look at the window at an angle so you get the reflection if its dry then its clean, i also prefer scrims to micro cloths but thats probably just my age!
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shame youre not from round here id have you sorted in 15 mins easy!
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shame youre not from round here id have you sorted in 15 mins easy!
ye that is ashame will keep at it
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take your time if its not clean do it again :-[ only just started myself as trad, dont try to look good just make sure you do a good job start at the top of window and go down in lines over lap by 1/2 ;D
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start at the top of window and go down in lines over lap by 1/2 Grin
No, don't just go down in lines... Learn to do it properly... It will save you a lot of time in the long run!
Andy
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he's just started speed will come, better to do a good job every time.
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I would never go down in lines I will keep at it and try fairy sure I will get it eventually
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gavin my son was struggling to pick it up so I put him in front of window and just showed him then let him clean the same window for an hour. he just kept cleaning it and re cleaning it but after the hour he had it to a fine art. I now just need to teach him hoppers and smaller windows
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Err Whats a hopper?
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I believe you call them openers
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I believe you call them openers
Thanks for that! i just had an image of a space hopper! its been a long day
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i have just bought the vikan easy shine kit, just cleaned all the insides on my house came up lovely.
I was the same last week did a load of internal glass tradionally on a new contractjob and to be honest it was a bit streaky.
they about 70 quid direct but i rooted about on ebay and got one for 50 quid.
Item number: 370426740029
it comes with the mops and some top dollar microfibres.
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Thanks for that! i just had an image of a space hopper! its been a long day
(http://selfishblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/adult-space-hopper.jpg)
;)
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has anyone else used the vikan easy shine? I was looking at these the other week
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window cleaners who cant clean windows what next ???
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Gav mate learn to trad clean, once youve mastered it youll never forget, look on youtube theres loads on there about fanning and how to do interiors, what squeegey are you using? the first one i had was crap and set at the wrong angle, if you want to do this you will need to trad as well.
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agree with richard forget about easy shine and learn to trad, and think about easyshine for high stuff in the future, but really you just need to be able to use a squeegie
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i refuse all inside work on domestics as i cant be bothered!!much prefer spraying the outsides with water!
also i wont get accused of stealing money or jewellery!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
dazmond
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i refuse all inside work on domestics as i cant be bothered!!much prefer spraying the outsides with water!
also i wont get accused of stealing money or jewellery!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
dazmond
Sounds like youve had problems before!! i always make the custy come around with me if im in their house.
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richard i knew a guy who got accused of stealing years ago.
its not that I HATE CLEANING INSIDES!!all the junk that you try and dodge and they keep you talking for ages!the sheer amount of stuff in some peoples houses is a nightmare!blinds /curtains and wfp soaks all their carpets and they start to have a good old winge cos ive ruined their carpets!some people eh?never satisfied!! ;D ;D ;D
when custies ask me i say ill clean them for double the outside price and tell em to move all stuff off the sills.
GUESS WHAT?they ve stopped asking me and they dont take me up on it either!! ;) ;D
keep the insides for newbies who dont have enough outside work!!!
dazmond
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like has been said just need practice as much as you can,use fairy and put a little more water on window until you can squeeqee properly,dont try to rush the job else you will make mistakes,if your squeeqee starts slowing down on the window you will then get a streak,iv always found with a new squeegee rubber that it takes a few windows to brake it in if it hot aswell,try using pulex rubber soft,unger are crap
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Good advise, also if you are having trouble with the fanning method try a smaller channel (12" is good)
And make sure the glass is well scrubbed before you squeegee.
Also experiment with different brands of rubber, I find Ettore soft the best and most consistent so far.
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gav dont use to much fairy mate will leave streaks like tommorrow man water`and unger on your sleeve will do and a bit of fairey as well and stick to the side strokes and scrim the starting side strokefor the time being might be best to get some channels and cut them down to a smaller size i have a 10 inch and 6 inch channels can give me a call if you want will point u in the right diraction