Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richy27 on August 30, 2010, 12:06:33 am
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got a trial pack to try from solutions and have been very impressed so far did this 100 % wool rug today which was pretty filthy.
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Hi Richard,
Nice job.
I got a sample of Fusion 8, but to be honest it didn't seem to do anything that Pure Clean doesn't do. Also, NVW told me to use 1 litre in a 20 litre hydroforce container which made it expensive £14 a pop. I think the dilution was wrong.
The problem is that most of the top of the range pre-sprays are all excellent and so there is little difference from one to the another, other than brand preference which I think plays a big part in the decision making process.
Simon
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That is the correct dilution rate, i presume your hydraforce mixes at 8:1
so you are getting 160 litres of stock solution.
£19.95 per 2 litre
so 160 litres of stock solution would cost £9.97 + vat
about 6pence per litre of prespray ;)
Pretty cheap i would say.
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Not as cheap as Pure Clean, far from it and PC is just as effect in my view.
Simon
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I have stopped using my Hydraforce at least for the time being.
I find using the HF I lay too much water down - which contains the cleaning agent, so was going thro too much cleaning fluid (bit like what Simon is saying I suppose).
With the Gloria pump up sprayer I am now using a realistic amount of fluid.
I wanted to see if F8 would work at its correct application and it does.
So one day may go back to the HF but move about the carpet a bit quicker so not to lay too much down, then agitate with my CarpetGard (Flexi5)
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if you are a porty user i would recommend Fusion 8 above all else.
unless you are using a very good inline heater porties lack the heat and F8 (IMO) works better than any other prespray when rinsing with colder water - it seems to be wetter than micro splitters so gets in to contact with dirt better with less agitation. However, it rinses freely and with superb results
i agree, if you are running a big hot TM the prespray is less of an issue as you are relying on the high heat to add to the cleaning equation and help remove soiling and noticing a difference between good presprays maybe more difficult
to say all presprays are the same is wrong though, the top ones may well be all good, but a good technician will think about the other parts of their process and the equipment they are using and choose the right one for that and the job in hand. We cant just use what someone else uses and expect to get the same results - we need to think about the other parts of the cleaning pie which vary from person to person and technique to technique
if you run a porty try F8 - you wont go wrong and as it dilutes as a prespray at 1 to 140 its economical too
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were du u buy the fusion 8 from.
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World of Clean (Google it and tell em Jase sent ya!!)
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anyone boosting it with soluboost?
I have some and can't see a difference in performance from Mpower ( but only used it 5=6times)
been using the Fusion clean for bonneting and found that to do the job.
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Mike remember on the other forum when F8 was released it went through what the 8 meant
no detergent
no peroxide
no enzymes
no phosphates
neutral ph
anti soiling
in built anti foaming agent
environmentally friendly
M-Power and Nemesis share many of those BUT they I dont think they have the anti soiling and in built anti foaming agent.
and yes I have boosted it with Soluboost on really bad carpets and its done really well.
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Joe but it can only offer the anti re-soiling properties if it is used as a rinse agent not as a pre-spray becuase if you are pre-spray with it then rincing it off..... then it is removed from the carpet.
plus to use it as a rinse agent @ 160-1 it is very expensive to use ( although as a pre-spray very cheap to use)
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Hi Guys
I would be a little careful to take much notice of any anti soiling claims unless they were proven.
It's the sort of claim which is easy to make and very hard to prove.
Cheers
Doug
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Are you sure that rug is 100% wool as from the pic it looks more like polyprop.
Looks good though/
Mark
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Are you sure that rug is 100% wool as from the pic it looks more like polyprop.
Looks good though/
Mark
label said 100% wool
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i thought it looked poly too!!!
Richard are you doing it outside on a driveway? dont you worry about soiling getting onto the back of the rug? i would worry what the customer would think of that - i wouldnt want my rug cleaned outside on my driveway with HWE and no protection underneath it!
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You put a large protective sheet on the drive.
Popular way of cleaning rugs is full submersion, and you can do this on a driveway if you build the sides of your protective sheet - form a paddling pool.
That way you can flood it, scrub it, extract it, but then you have the problem of drying it.
The drying process needs to be reasonably quick, which can be a problem, but if you got a large thick pile rug it will weigh a lot even after extraction.
Unless there is at least 2 of you and you have a frame of some sort to hang it then think carefully before you do this.
It is very effective process though and an eye opener when you see it done for the first time.
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Hi Joe
Yes of course adding a protective sheet under means no probs and i have done that with larger rugs or ones that cant be done in the house, but this one looks like its on top of the tarmac with no sheeting
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i thought it looked poly too!!!
Richard are you doing it outside on a driveway? dont you worry about soiling getting onto the back of the rug? i would worry what the customer would think of that - i wouldnt want my rug cleaned outside on my driveway with HWE and no protection underneath it!
yes rug was done on my drive and no sheet but it was not for a customer it was a i took home from the tip when i got rid of some stuff at the weekend . of course when i clean rugs i sheet the area down but couldnt be bothered to mess my sheet up for experimenting.
should of made that clear in my original post
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Sorry, I didnt notice the driveway never mind no sheeting, I was just looking at the carpet. :-[
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lol - well looks like a good job done Richard - maybe we should all go to the tip and clean up some rugs to sell them on!!! Good little side line earner ;)