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Title: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 06:48:03 pm
This is the type i am looking at no mechanical parts!

you can buy the kit and run it of an air compressor,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plkq35iM-Tg&feature=player_embedded#!

The kit is guaranteed for 5 years

See more on them here you can get them in the uk

http://goodhand.exair.com/industrialhousekeeping/dvpage.php
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: Jeff Brimble on August 26, 2010, 07:18:14 pm
Presumably they have larger diameter hose as the smaller diameters block. I would also want to know that they will suck well at 40-50ft vertically.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: mark311069 on August 26, 2010, 08:37:56 pm
it looks a intresting bit of kit, as jeff said i would like to know how much suction there is compared to a omnipole vac. i was wondering if its possible to find a vac powerfull enough to be able to leave the vac in the van, and just pull the hose out which would hopefully be on a reel, but instead of having 15metres of hose (which seems to be the norm) having say 45 metres. ? i have a lot of vac work at a local holiday camp. all the apartments are 2 storey but having to move the vac about all the time is a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 09:01:30 pm
I am going to be phoning them next week mark when i have more time as i feel this could be a far better system

Mark two minds think alike i was looking to sort of turn it into a van mount ;D

I think they have several different pumps to do this,

If this can be done its the way i will be going,

The fact that it pumps as well as suck could come in very handy! 
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on August 26, 2010, 09:24:09 pm
I'm not an expert but this system relies on a suction of liquid and nothing else. Gutter vacs suck debris and air.

This system would lose the vacuum if the hose/pipe started sucking any amount of air.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 09:30:03 pm
rg1 i posted the type of vac i was looking at not that particular one!

Like this one

http://goodhand.exair.com/industrialhousekeeping/hddvpage.php


I am going to phone them and tell them exactly what i need to see what they come up with ie: wet/dry vac
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on August 26, 2010, 09:34:19 pm
Sorry James I got the wrong end of the stick. :-[

But with the dry vac you would need to carry a compressor, so I dont see the advantages.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 09:41:19 pm
The whole idea would be to leave the compressor in the van!

You could carry the little drum if needed out of the van a lot easier than lifting a petrol vac in and out of a van and if you had any water in the drum you could just pump it straight down the drain,

You would only have to reel out an air line to your work!

This set up would be far cheaper than a petrol powered vac.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: paul saunders on August 26, 2010, 10:04:09 pm
What's the CFM of the pump. A petrol powered compressor with a large CFM output is not going to be cheap or light, and it will be very noisy.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: Lee Pryor on August 26, 2010, 10:19:29 pm
two problems i see with that are 1, the hose is knowhere near big enough diameter, 2 how do you plan on emptying the drum of, leaves, moss, mudd and so on. we have had a gutter vac for 3 years and I can tell you there is no way to your going to get the contents out of that drum.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 10:38:22 pm
Lee,  i will know better next week, far as i know they do 50 +mm hose

As for getting it out of the drum, how do you empty yours!
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: chopsie on August 26, 2010, 10:47:53 pm
there is only a little hole on oil type drums is what he is saying
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 10:50:48 pm
there is only a little hole on oil type drums is what he is saying

Ok miss read it ;D

The idea i have is to put a trap door at the bottom of the drum  and open it to empty!
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: chopsie on August 26, 2010, 11:02:39 pm
I think it looks great for filling van up from static, if it could work and not cost a fortune
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 11:09:09 pm
 a sealed trap door Some thing like this chopsie

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab241/james44_album/Trapdoor.jpg)[/img]
I can weld so i will come up with something!
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: chopsie on August 26, 2010, 11:12:22 pm
looks a good idea
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: JSMC on August 26, 2010, 11:12:48 pm
you can ge tlarge drums wher ethe top comes off. these ar eheld on by a large clamp. used to have them in las tplac eof work holding our chemicals.
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: JSMC on August 26, 2010, 11:14:34 pm
http://www.dvfuels.co.uk/product.asp?pid=10

http://www.dvfuels.co.uk/product.asp?pid=51

you could use these and just drill hole to attach the female thread section which can be bought
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: chopsie on August 26, 2010, 11:16:31 pm
http://www.dvfuels.co.uk/product.asp?pid=10

you could use these and just drill hole to attach the female thread section which can be bought
would have to check they could take the pressure from the compressed air though
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: JSMC on August 26, 2010, 11:19:38 pm
http://www.smithsofthedean.co.uk/New%20Barrels.htm

blck drums nea rbottom is what ye want. they take the pump fitting and also the other end is for expelling air
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: james44 on August 26, 2010, 11:21:54 pm
was looking at these as the top rim can be cut off and welded at any height you want

http://www.dvfuels.co.uk/product.asp?pid=51
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: chopsie on August 26, 2010, 11:32:24 pm
You will be able to get a metal barrel or more if needed from any steel deckers/stud welders you see or know of working on construction sites, they have removable lids,these are type of barrels they use http://www.shearstud.com/stock.html
Title: Re: Cheaper than petrol gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on August 27, 2010, 08:57:52 am
By the time you've done all this and forked out for a compressor, it would be as cheap to buy a gutter vac and run it off a genny.