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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on August 24, 2010, 10:26:17 pm

Title: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 24, 2010, 10:26:17 pm
I know we've discussed about this before, but of those of you who do it, and your on call when doing the windows. How quick do you get your stuff away and to station etc?
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 24, 2010, 10:35:47 pm
Within 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 24, 2010, 10:54:57 pm
So your 100m away round the back of someones house, what do you do?
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on August 24, 2010, 11:04:04 pm
Within 5 minutes.

Rubbish! Not unless you are in the same street.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 24, 2010, 11:07:33 pm
What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 24, 2010, 11:08:24 pm
I reakon i could get back to car and reel in and off in about a minute (without any snags), im just asking those of you who do it
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: geefree on August 24, 2010, 11:49:40 pm
I reakon i could get back to car and reel in and off in about a minute (without any snags), im just asking those of you who do it

 a minute? .... it will take you that to get your pole down and walk to the car/van....

what about the drive on top of that to the fire station.... depending on were you are....

comments aside... i admire these guys . there is no way i could live my life being trying to work 5 minutes from a fire station ( i cover miles and miles).... and be on call this way..

same as lifeboat crews.

Hats off
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 25, 2010, 06:38:14 am
Yeh i seriously reakon i could collapse my pole and reel in. I have a quick release when the reel is all out so i suppose i could just un huck it and come back for it. Ive been thinking about this for a while gazza but i live too far away at the momment but we may be moving and if we do im going for it.

And as for working miles away, yes i do but i would not give cover on those days, say a couple of days a week.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: DaveG on August 25, 2010, 06:40:43 am
and how long does it take to pay your tax?? ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 25, 2010, 06:46:27 am
Here we go lol  ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: DaveG on August 25, 2010, 07:01:06 am
lol well someone had to say it matt! ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on August 25, 2010, 07:55:57 am
What makes you say that?

It's because people say 'back in 5 mins' or 'it will only take 5 mins' when in fact time goes much quicker than we imagine.

Put a 5 min timer on your phone half way through a house pack up and see how far you can drive. Then you will have your est radius to the fire station.

Had the guy said 10 mins or more I wouldn't have commented. 
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 25, 2010, 11:12:22 am
I practised on my house today, parked the car a bit away from it, was round the back with the pole up, shut pole down and ran and reeled in in 1 minute and was in car, wonder how far can you travel in 4 mins
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Dean Taberner on August 25, 2010, 06:52:14 pm
and how long does it take to pay your tax?? ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: david washbrook on August 25, 2010, 08:17:06 pm
been a retained firefighter for 20 years and since starting my own business 6 years ago ive never had a problem just pack away as quick as possible and get to the station and if machine has gone all well and good but if not you get on and go

simples ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 25, 2010, 08:35:05 pm
Within 5 minutes.

Rubbish! Not unless you are in the same street.

I don't think you would speak to like that in person so please don't do it on here.

The fact is to provide retained fire cover you have to attend the firestation within five minutes of being alerted if you don't questions will be asked.

There are a few times when it takes longer, ironically i was alerted this afternoon when i had about 60 meters of hose out and 1 small window and a door left to do on the house i at, knowing there was plenty of people on call i finished the house put a ticket through the door and packed up my equipment and was on my way(think this took about 3-4 minutes) normally it would take another 3 to four minutes to get to the station from where i was, but today it took me 14 minutes because it was around 5pm and i have never known the traffic to be so bad as it was. By the time i got there both pumps were gone, it has never taken me so long to get there before and if it became a habit i would get a p45.

The majority of retained firefighters are in small towns and villages, those who are based in larger towns and cities are usually at stations where the first pump out is manned by full time fighters and then the second pump out is manned by the retained im not sure if they are allow more time to attend the station than those in small towns.

I myself live in a town where all of my work is well within a five minute drive of my house and the fire station, there are only two sets of traffic lights (not including pedestrian crossing) in the whole town so getting from one side of the town to the other is usually very easy to do in five minutes. So usually it is very easy to pack up and get to the station with five minutes.

H2ose
I pay my tax in full and on time being a retained firefighter is not a living wage just got my pay slip today from fire service after deductions i recieved less than £500 for the month which isn't even a weeks wage for a full time window cleaner, so i work full time and declare my earnings.

Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 25, 2010, 08:59:56 pm
Thanks for replies guys, thats brill. Are you members on www.retainedfirefighter.com  ?
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: DaveG on August 25, 2010, 09:01:14 pm
Within 5 minutes.

Rubbish! Not unless you are in the same street.

I don't think you would speak to like that in person so please don't do it on here.

The fact is to provide retained fire cover you have to attend the firestation within five minutes of being alerted if you don't questions will be asked.

There are a few times when it takes longer, ironically i was alerted this afternoon when i had about 60 meters of hose out and 1 small window and a door left to do on the house i at, knowing there was plenty of people on call i finished the house put a ticket through the door and packed up my equipment and was on my way(think this took about 3-4 minutes) normally it would take another 3 to four minutes to get to the station from where i was, but today it took me 14 minutes because it was around 5pm and i have never known the traffic to be so bad as it was. By the time i got there both pumps were gone, it has never taken me so long to get there before and if it became a habit i would get a p45.

The majority of retained firefighters are in small towns and villages, those who are based in larger towns and cities are usually at stations where the first pump out is manned by full time fighters and then the second pump out is manned by the retained im not sure if they are allow more time to attend the station than those in small towns.

I myself live in a town where all of my work is well within a five minute drive of my house and the fire station, there are only two sets of traffic lights (not including pedestrian crossing) in the whole town so getting from one side of the town to the other is usually very easy to do in five minutes. So usually it is very easy to pack up and get to the station with five minutes.

H2ose
I pay my tax in full and on time being a retained firefighter is not a living wage just got my pay slip today from fire service after deductions i recieved less than £500 for the month which isn't even a weeks wage for a full time window cleaner, so i work full time and declare my earnings.




Whoa !!!! easy tiger it was a joke :o







Its the full time firemen that have part time jobs ::)
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 25, 2010, 09:04:09 pm
It was a joke but many people have this perception and it really isnt fair. Ptwt confirmed that this is not true. These guys put their lives on the line so hats off...so theres a time an place...anyway.

Not going off subject  ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: DaveG on August 25, 2010, 09:10:57 pm
Matt..Im not being disrespectful at all to the firemen! BIG hats off to them for the job they do. My comment was light hearted!

I have 2 mates that are firemen, 1 is also a Corgi Registered (Gas Safe?) plumber and the other does gardening as well.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 25, 2010, 09:14:51 pm
Within 5 minutes.

Rubbish! Not unless you are in the same street.

I don't think you would speak to like that in person so please don't do it on here.

The fact is to provide retained fire cover you have to attend the firestation within five minutes of being alerted if you don't questions will be asked.

There are a few times when it takes longer, ironically i was alerted this afternoon when i had about 60 meters of hose out and 1 small window and a door left to do on the house i at, knowing there was plenty of people on call i finished the house put a ticket through the door and packed up my equipment and was on my way(think this took about 3-4 minutes) normally it would take another 3 to four minutes to get to the station from where i was, but today it took me 14 minutes because it was around 5pm and i have never known the traffic to be so bad as it was. By the time i got there both pumps were gone, it has never taken me so long to get there before and if it became a habit i would get a p45.

The majority of retained firefighters are in small towns and villages, those who are based in larger towns and cities are usually at stations where the first pump out is manned by full time fighters and then the second pump out is manned by the retained im not sure if they are allow more time to attend the station than those in small towns.

I myself live in a town where all of my work is well within a five minute drive of my house and the fire station, there are only two sets of traffic lights (not including pedestrian crossing) in the whole town so getting from one side of the town to the other is usually very easy to do in five minutes. So usually it is very easy to pack up and get to the station with five minutes.

H2ose
I pay my tax in full and on time being a retained firefighter is not a living wage just got my pay slip today from fire service after deductions i recieved less than £500 for the month which isn't even a weeks wage for a full time window cleaner, so i work full time and declare my earnings.




Whoa !!!! easy tiger it was a joke :o







Its the full time firemen that have part time jobs ::)

Ok mate, i take pride in paying my way so im sensitive when people say things like that.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: DaveG on August 25, 2010, 09:23:21 pm
Everyone thinks us window cleaners are "at it" anyway ;D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: gordonswindows on August 25, 2010, 11:02:33 pm
Seems fireman are like old people

Every old person wants a discount for having been "in the war" yet most of them only lived while a war happened to be on

It seems to me that there are a precious few fire persons who do run into burning buildings and save lives rather than rolling and unrolling long heavy hoses or maybe driving the lorry but the few I know complain of endless training playing pool and doing charity car washes all while being handsomely rewarded and then we have the four local ones who run about in their silver vector cleaning windows. These brave men have no license so no insurance their car is not insured as it is a private car for personal use only and they run up and down fire brigade ladders charging peanuts.........not all fire persons are like this or break laws like this but some and there are many who do.

So with one hand they accept the tax money we legitimate w/c pay to fund the emergency services as their wages and then run off with our clients cash wedged into their back pockets for their beer and fAgs.

Wonder what they would do if I turned up and put out a fire with my hoses or power washers and put them out of work or perish the thought charged over £1200 to go up a ladder and save a cat from a tree

Remember I did say not all fire people are like this but there are some

Gordon
Ps yes I have ran into a burning house and yes I did save a young girls life but I wasn't paid but I proudly accepted a big thank you from the girls family
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 26, 2010, 08:06:47 pm
Seems fireman are like old people

Every old person wants a discount for having been "in the war" yet most of them only lived while a war happened to be on

It seems to me that there are a precious few fire persons who do run into burning buildings and save lives rather than rolling and unrolling long heavy hoses or maybe driving the lorry but the few I know complain of endless training playing pool and doing charity car washes all while being handsomely rewarded and then we have the four local ones who run about in their silver vector cleaning windows. These brave men have no license so no insurance their car is not insured as it is a private car for personal use only and they run up and down fire brigade ladders charging peanuts.........not all fire persons are like this or break laws like this but some and there are many who do.

So with one hand they accept the tax money we legitimate w/c pay to fund the emergency services as their wages and then run off with our clients cash wedged into their back pockets for their beer and f*gs.

Wonder what they would do if I turned up and put out a fire with my hoses or power washers and put them out of work or perish the thought charged over £1200 to go up a ladder and save a cat from a tree

Remember I did say not all fire people are like this but there are some

Gordon
Ps yes I have ran into a burning house and yes I did save a young girls life but I wasn't paid but I proudly accepted a big thank you from the girls family

Gordon you appear to be talking about full time firefighters earning extra money on the side, this post is talking about retained firefighters who generally have a full time job other than firefighting. If they are using fire brigade ladders report them as this will be a sackable offense unless they have bought old equipment from the brigade which is above board.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Panorama on August 26, 2010, 08:50:09 pm
Using 13.5 or 10mt ladder for window cleaning ...... Err don't think so. Me thinks they are winding you up mate
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 26, 2010, 09:20:57 pm
Love to see someone lug a 13.5m ladder on one shoulder single handedly lol
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Panorama on August 26, 2010, 09:33:44 pm
i'd like to see them use the 10mt :D
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: S on August 26, 2010, 09:34:21 pm
I always think of large egos, when I think about firemen. Its just the impression I get.

Taking home £500 a month from a part-time job is not bad at all..
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 27, 2010, 10:32:51 pm
Using 13.5 or 10mt ladder for window cleaning ...... Err don't think so. Me thinks they are winding you up mate

Our pumps have 13.5m 9m and short extension ladders aswell.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on August 28, 2010, 08:32:04 am
I always think of large egos, when I think about firemen. Its just the impression I get.

Taking home £500 a month from a part-time job is not bad at all..

Plus a one off payment of £2000 per year  ;)
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: LWC on August 28, 2010, 08:54:09 am
I always think of large egos, when I think about firemen. Its just the impression I get.

Taking home £500 a month from a part-time job is not bad at all..

Plus a one off payment of £2000 per year  ;)

Spread across the year
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: G Griffin on August 28, 2010, 09:05:07 am
Within 5 minutes.
 
  5 minutes  :o.
 The cat could have fallen out of the tree by then  ;D.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: S on August 28, 2010, 10:35:24 pm
I work part-time for the Ambulance service. We get nothing near what the fire fighters get. We do not stop for 5 minutes, one call to the next.
Moaning about his part-time cleared, after tax £500 a month and bonus. Lucky for some I say.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Panorama on August 29, 2010, 10:43:39 pm
I always think of large egos, when I think about firemen. Its just the impression I get.
I work part-time for the Ambulance service. We get nothing near what the fire fighters get. We do not stop for 5 minutes, one call to the next.
Moaning about his part-time cleared, after tax £500 a month and bonus. Lucky for some I say.
sound a bit bitter mate. join if it bothers you that much ;)
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: Steve_c on August 30, 2010, 09:37:35 am
Sorry but good luck to them i say. They are good blokes trying to bump up a wage in the worse recession known in since the 30's. We have a couple near me, they never tread on other window cleaners toes and do a good job.
Title: Re: Retained firefighters
Post by: ptwt on August 30, 2010, 12:33:24 pm
I always think of large egos, when I think about firemen. Its just the impression I get.

Taking home £500 a month from a part-time job is not bad at all..

Plus a one off payment of £2000 per year  ;)
I wish you had a one of payment of £2000 per year but there is no such thing.