Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kordun on August 24, 2010, 07:35:49 pm
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Hi all
Had an enquire today asking if we could clean pigeons mess with our pressure cleaning equipment.
“There are currently well-established pigeons nesting in certain parts of the property, we are obliged to clear any mess which accumulates on the pavement areas”
Is there any special procedure, process or disposal of pigeons poop or just normal pressure clening? Its a multi story car park and some walkways
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Hi
This is the sort of work we carry out all the time, where are you based? I may be able to help?
Nick
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I also do a fair amount of this work - I only cover Kent but I will talk you through it if Nick can't help. Have you got a waste carriers licence ?
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Im based in Reading, Berkshire. Don’t have waste carriers licence
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try to avoid pressure washing it untreated as it creates aerosols of contaminated materials and is frowned upon by the EH
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All this mess is on pavement under bridge, very dark area. All these pavement, buildings, bridge is being knocked down next year as they building new development. What do you suggest, how to clean it?
Thanks
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get it treated first with ornikill or similar, if you cant buy such chemicals buy something like screen from premiere, its just to prove you have addressed potential proliferations but then again no-one may ever question it so the choice is yours but screen and orni cost about a fiver for 5 litres, its a no-brainer in my book
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http://www.killgerm.com/product-group.php?group=50
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Have used Ornikill from BDCS link and it is great stuff ;)
If i was you i would get a waste carriers licence as it is only £155 for 3 years which i think is well worth it as even if you only carry a bucket of customers waste that is classed as trade waste and if you get a jobs worth (which i always do) it is a pain!!!
Regards
Alan
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Thanks very much guys for your suggestions and advices. I’m sending them quote and hopefully I get that work
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Hi,
Make sure it is sprayed with biocide,( can use watered down bleach)
Make sure you use full ppe,gloves/overalls/respirators,eye protection,
Sweep it up and place in to black bags dispose
We are doing a job in newport next week of this nature
Sorry if my spelling is bad had a lot of beer this afternoon hic hic
Nick
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so dont you need any training or license for this kind of work? also after you have bagged the waste where do you get rid of it?
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every area has hazardous waste disposal companies they are usually a skip company with license for this discipline,therefore, you have transfer notices to that effect, i assume most of us posess waste carriers licenses nowadays and training is an enhancement of induction and update H&S training.
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pigeon mess is highly lethal toxic stuff- i remember once watching a tv prog of FRED DIBNAH ,the famous steeplejack , he had become Very Ill after his flat cap fell into some water on a roof and tiny amount of pigeon poo then got on his head
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Hi
once the guano has been treated it can be dumped as normal waste as it is not hazardous anymore
Regards
Martin 8)
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im sure martin 606 is correct in what he says but we have provided works within the pest industry and haz transfer notices carry a lot of weight, some of the jobs have been quite extreme and some piles of crap have been up to 8 inches tall in popular roosting points therefore a single spray out does not take into account the deep seated stuff when the crust is broken. the other consideration is the catagory of customer ie would anyone feel confident telling a county council env official with a clipboard that the crap is going into landfill and create methane. its very subjective.
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I recently did a guano job, I have a waste transfer licence but had real grief getting rid of the waste unless I had 16 tonnes of it ! Nobody wants to get involved with any waste code ending in 99 and in the end a skip was the cheapest option. All waste emits methane when it rots and guano when adequately sanitised ios not considered hazardous but it is still guano. I usually use the px and pressure wash it wearing a A1P2 mask
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agreed but its back to whats classed as adequate sanitization ? a spray-out on crap that is not going to move is not the same as when its going to be lifted.
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Hi
That's why with Guano you spray constantly
Regards
Martin 8)
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Hi,
Martin is right, that is why you spray it with a biocide, normal waste,wheelie bins on site can take them
Nick
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one in the eye for all us that have ever send bird crap through haz routes then, its interesting but there are companies on the net advertising haz disposal of bird waste,
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Why is it one in the eye ? providing you can justify what you have done and have done it in the correct mannor then it can go into landfill. I charge the customer for waste disposal at cost so thats why i go for the skip so I don't waste time travelling to the dump. At the end of the day you do what works for you and if you need to proove a paper trail then if it be hazardous waste, skip or into the customers bin then so be it. Whats to stop you lifting a foul manhole and washing into it ? Theres more than one way to skin a cat and thats why theres a forum
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tell that to fred dibnah ;)
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Does he come on here much ?
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not since he contracted pidgeon fanciers lung !!!
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He would'nt have bad lungs if he had worn the correct ppe and applied the px in the correct way
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and laid off the park drives a bit !
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what can you charge for this sort of work, i know every job is differant but on average per hour?