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Title: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 11, 2005, 09:00:33 pm
Need to recruit but dont know the best way to do it.  Should I pay hugh prices to advertise the post in local paper or use the job centre.

How do you guys overcome the problem with working hours on the run up to the winter.  Do you guarantee say three days work and does that get the dregs applying ?

Do you pay them if they work below the weekly guaranteed hours ?

Any suggestions about payment methods will help me when wording the advert.





Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 11, 2005, 09:23:06 pm
i pay £6.50 an hour on a guaranteed 15 hour basis and we are tottally flexible with each other it works out great as when the weather is bad ,we get unpaid time off and extra time to do the work in when it has stopped
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 12, 2005, 07:22:15 am
David,

Did you have trouble getting someone to commit to only 15 hours a week then ?

Most people need full time to pay the bills.
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 01:36:05 pm
No i had no trouble as i said that will be the minimum hours and there will be a lot more in the future .if there wifes are in work then it is not to bad and tax credits are superb these days .there is always someone .you can normally find a couple of out of work people in the pub or through your family network.

dave
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: alan_t on September 12, 2005, 03:27:25 pm
if it was me,  i would try and  choose someone i know and trust.

where do you live sarill?
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 04:03:15 pm
if it was me,  i would try and  choose someone i know and trust.

where do you live sarill?

Well obviously i do not ask strangers in the pub ,i Just know a lot of people ,i would not take someone on if i did not trust them . doh !
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: alan_t on September 12, 2005, 04:07:54 pm
doh! lol
i was answering sarills post david my good man. :P
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 04:27:17 pm
oh !   ;D
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Thecleanerservice on September 12, 2005, 05:40:34 pm
Tell me to mind my own business, David but are they paye or self employed?

Pj
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 05:46:06 pm
paye ,i would not have it any other way
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 12, 2005, 05:54:29 pm
Based in South Wales Alan - do you know someone who WANTS to work then ?

Past employees have always been PAYE but the irregular winter hours always get them in the end !!!

Has anyone tried New Deal - whats it all about ?  have heard of it but dont know much about it otherthan the job centre pay so much so my thinking was to use the extra to make up any shortfall in wages during the winter !!!

Wadya fink ?
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 05:58:20 pm
if you go that route i think they want to see training ,health and safety and all liability insurances ,i have not tried it myself ,but a friend of mine pulled out because it was too much hassle. i have not researched it myself
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 12, 2005, 06:10:22 pm
me finks it needs a bit of infestegatin then eh !!!!!

Will ring the jc tomorrow and post my findings for anyone else who wants it for the future.

Good luck with the grapes Dave.   :'(
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 06:14:09 pm
2 days left at work then i get a nice break .just dont send me any grapes,apples will do fine.   :'(
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 12, 2005, 06:22:16 pm
Was thinking more like 'Grape Juice'   !!!!!!!!!!!  Ouch !!!!!!!!!!!

Have a nice rubber ring I could sent as well.  Will come in handy next summer too - the lovely beaches down in Cornwall !!!!!!

joking aside Dave, hope it goes to plan and you can be back on CIU raising those post figures with the details  ;D
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 06:26:14 pm
chears mate .i have got a good wfp flyer i am going to send you

dave
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Thecleanerservice on September 12, 2005, 07:11:24 pm
Dave, hope you don't mind but how do you get round the minefield Employers liability stuff, sick pay, holiday pay, preggers pay, I'm fed up stay in bed pay, etc

Pj
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 12, 2005, 07:22:53 pm
i registered as a new employee with the tax office .my N.i contribution was only £3 for him last week .
liability insurance -- i have just taken a quote for £380 inc public and employers .added him on to car insurance .

i do not send him up a ladder ,i do all that

holiday pay --just set aside £10 week that should cover it for now

sick pay ----my understanding is if you cant afford it ,the gov have to pay it

every thing you pay out is all tax deductable any way.

any more questions and i will answer

dave
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Sarah Sarill on September 12, 2005, 08:11:12 pm
Leaflet great Dave.  Personally I dont think it matters how you tell them as long as they get told properly.

Because the techie stuff is so extensive I was told my original Newsletter was far oo complicated and far too detailed for the majority of my customers (No I am not saying they are thick) but they dont need all the info we try to give them.

Good luck with rolling out the wfp - its the best thing I ever did (I dont use ladders at ALL now for w/c) just for the odd guttering clean.



Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Thecleanerservice on September 13, 2005, 05:23:06 pm
i registered as a new employee with the tax office .my N.i contribution was only £3 for him last week .
liability insurance -- i have just taken a quote for £380 inc public and employers .added him on to car insurance .

i do not send him up a ladder ,i do all that

holiday pay --just set aside £10 week that should cover it for now

sick pay ----my understanding is if you cant afford it ,the gov have to pay it

every thing you pay out is all tax deductable any way.

any more questions and i will answer

dave

Thanks for that Dave, you are generous with your experience.  May you be fibrefull and free moving in all future deposits!!
Pj
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 13, 2005, 05:28:22 pm
no probs  ;D  dont strain yourself and i hope you are sat on a cold chair

chears

dave
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Thecleanerservice on September 13, 2005, 05:34:50 pm
i registered as a new employee with the tax office .my N.i contribution was only £3 for him last week .
liability insurance -- i have just taken a quote for £380 inc public and employers .added him on to car insurance .

i do not send him up a ladder ,i do all that

holiday pay --just set aside £10 week that should cover it for now

sick pay ----my understanding is if you cant afford it ,the gov have to pay it

every thing you pay out is all tax deductable any way.

any more questions and i will answer

dave
Where'd'you get the ins quote Dave.  And do you have to pay holiday pay?
Pj
Title: Re: How do you get yor trainee w/c ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 13, 2005, 05:53:29 pm
Yes you do have to pay holiday pay it works out at about 8 or 9%
of there weekly pay over all so if they earn £5200 in a year  £400 of that would be holiday pay  .the insurance is from a broker in penzance,if you need it i will dig it out ,but all brokers should do the same.

dave