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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gavin pedley on August 15, 2010, 11:43:13 pm

Title: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: gavin pedley on August 15, 2010, 11:43:13 pm
I'm sure it is a silly question but was thinking of cleaning my new van tom then thought why not use wfp I have old brush in the van. So is it ok on paint work etc I presume it is as is only pure water but thought I would just check
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 15, 2010, 11:45:57 pm
Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.



Matt
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: dazmond on August 16, 2010, 05:26:43 am
i clean mine every week gav with wfp!hose pipe ban?sod em!! ;D ;D ;D ;D.

i wouldnt go and do custies cars though like some on here!ive got an old kangoo like yours so its ok but if you clean  someone elses nice car you could strip the polish off with the pure water or damage car with your brush if your not careful!!not worth it IMO!

regards

dazmond
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: TonyD on August 16, 2010, 08:52:27 am
No, the brush will cause fine scratching, just as car wash brushes do.  But if you aren't bothered by fine swirl scratching then go for it. 
I spend a lot of time on customers cars correcting paintwork with swirling scratching caused by car washes and brush lances.  Best way is to use a nice soft sheepskin mitt and drying towel. 

Here's an example of my work and what I mean -
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11399&highlight=


Here's a car that was washed through the car wash for 3 years, you can see the difference to the half that I have corrected/machine polished -



(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/Tonyd_2007/door.jpg)

Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: LWC on August 16, 2010, 09:41:14 am
Thats a good pic, and i agree that the brushes do leave those swirl marks...doesnt really matter on a white van mind.
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: gavin pedley on August 16, 2010, 09:54:03 am
Yes I understand it will prob leave fin. Scratches etc but how can pure water strip paint?
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: LWC on August 16, 2010, 09:58:47 am
I cant see the whole stripping paint talk lol. Maybe like we heard few weeks back on that old red car being in direct sunlight...but then any water would do that.
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 16, 2010, 10:19:07 am
I cant see the whole stripping paint talk lol. Maybe like we heard few weeks back on that old red car being in direct sunlight...but then any water would do that.


Red cars oxidise easily if left in the sun, I used to have a nissan micra (red) and it was a nightmare!
When I bought it it was pink! got some t cut out and it returned to red again.



Matt
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: formb on August 16, 2010, 10:25:05 am
There is a bit in the latest FWC mag that suggests deionised water can be aggressive on paint and such like.

Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.

I believe that the car washes use de-mineralised water not deionised, not sure though.
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: dazmond on August 16, 2010, 06:24:16 pm
IF ANY OF YOU READ MY POST RIGHT I SAID THE PURE WATER COULD STRIP THE POLISH OFf A CAR AND "DULLEN" IT!NOWHERE IN MY POST DOES IT MENTION PAINT!!



.....thats cleared that one up then!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: gavin pedley on August 16, 2010, 09:18:10 pm
lol sorry my falt didn't read properly. :-[
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: mci services on August 16, 2010, 09:35:08 pm
There is a bit in the latest FWC mag that suggests deionised water can be aggressive on paint and such like.

Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.

I believe that the car washes use demilitarised water not deionised, not sure though.


demilitarised water is that when they take all the soldiers out the water ;D
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 16, 2010, 09:50:26 pm
There is a bit in the latest FWC mag that suggests deionised water can be aggressive on paint and such like.

Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.

I believe that the car washes use demilitarised water not deionised, not sure though.


demilitarised water is that when they take all the soldiers out the water ;D


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: Ian_Giles on August 16, 2010, 09:59:42 pm
Pure water won't strip off polish...its just water, marginally purer than rain water.

On another thread some time back someone claimed it that if it could dissolve the grease of greasy windows then of course it could do the same to polish on cars...pure water WILL NOT dissolve grease!!! That needs detergent.
What looks like a greasy window isn't some oil based grease, it's a film built up that gives that appearance by having absorbed moisture from the atmosphere.

I agree about the fine marks left by brushes though, whether by a car wash or done at home they are always there.

But if you normally clean your car or van with a brush of some description, pure water isn't going to hurt, especially if just used for the final rinse.

Guess it depends how fussy you are with your car cleaning,...I guess the fussy ones who clean their cars religiously will also lovingly buff & polish their cars every time.
 But for those of us who are not too fussy then don't worry too much.

Ian
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: easycleaner on August 16, 2010, 11:50:05 pm
Works ace in screen washer.
Mart
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: gavin pedley on August 16, 2010, 11:53:09 pm
Seems I have started the big debate again sorry lol
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: dazmond on August 17, 2010, 12:11:38 am
pure water is like battery acid!dont even get it on your hands!ALWAYS use gloves!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: formb on August 17, 2010, 11:48:49 am
There is a bit in the latest FWC mag that suggests deionised water can be aggressive on paint and such like.

Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.

I believe that the car washes use demilitarised water not deionised, not sure though.


demilitarised water is that when they take all the soldiers out the water ;D


Damn auto-spell!!!

There is a bit in the latest FWC mag that suggests deionised water can be aggressive on paint and such like.

Yes its ok, some car washes use pure water through a fine spray at the end of the wash.

I believe that the car washes use de-mineralised water not deionised, not sure though.

Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on August 17, 2010, 02:15:10 pm
No, the brush will cause fine scratching, just as car wash brushes do.  But if you aren't bothered by fine swirl scratching then go for it. 
I spend a lot of time on customers cars correcting paintwork with swirling scratching caused by car washes and brush lances.  Best way is to use a nice soft sheepskin mitt and drying towel. 

Here's an example of my work and what I mean -
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11399&highlight=


Here's a car that was washed through the car wash for 3 years, you can see the difference to the half that I have corrected/machine polished -



I wash my van every week with pure water, no scratches. Never washed my car with pure water, covered in fine scratches.
Darren
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: TonyD on August 17, 2010, 04:22:13 pm
No, the brush will cause fine scratching, just as car wash brushes do.  But if you aren't bothered by fine swirl scratching then go for it. 
I spend a lot of time on customers cars correcting paintwork with swirling scratching caused by car washes and brush lances.  Best way is to use a nice soft sheepskin mitt and drying towel. 

Here's an example of my work and what I mean -
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11399&highlight=


Here's a car that was washed through the car wash for 3 years, you can see the difference to the half that I have corrected/machine polished -



I wash my van every week with pure water, no scratches. Never washed my car with pure water, covered in fine scratches.
Darren


I wasn't saying pure water causes scratches, just that the brushes will.  Pure water would actually be better to clean with IMO. 
Title: Re: can you wfp vehicles?
Post by: Scrimble on August 18, 2010, 05:47:26 pm
pure water will not damage the paintwork or strip wax off,

using soap which is not meant for washing cars will remove the wax like fairy or detergent, and using a wfp brush will leave swirl scratchs everywhere

my god do some people still not know the difference between wax and polish?