Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Pryor on August 13, 2010, 05:34:38 pm
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I think this product looks very impressive! who has one? any good? and do you find it really does save you water if so how much?
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I have the second one used here in the States. It is awesome and as best as I can figure it has saved me at least 25-30% on water usage from those times where I loose hold of my shut off valve. It has also allowed me to increase my production by having better hold of my pole instead of needing to keep the shut off in my hand to save water. Probably increased my speed by 20%.
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i would definitly recommend the aqua-daptor, it is so much easier than taps, it is not just about pulling the hose to switch on/off there is 2 options, you can also control from the brush head at ground level,
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i know a window cleaner who has one, iv used it with him,
honest ans from me any way, laod of rubbish, it sticks from time to time
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i know a window cleaner who has one, iv used it with him,
honest ans from me any way, laod of rubbish, it sticks from time to time
Ok a first negative comment, which is fine btw, anyone else not think its any good?
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Hi leights,
If its sticking, there could be two reasons:
1) There maybe debris & need rinsing out as instructions advise when you purchase one.
which should be done from time to time.
2) There may be a fault, which we will gladly sort out, just get your friend to get intouch
we like to meet customer satisfaction.
sales@aqua-dapter.co.uk
Thanks Aqua-dapter.
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What is an aqua adapter?
Matt
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Just sent 1 out first time today.
Will let you know........
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What is an aqua adapter?
Matt
There you go matt its got a vid on this link too http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/products/Aqua%252ddapter-Water-Fed-Pole-Tap.html
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It sounds interesting. As I'm on a water meter (with a merlin - ouch !! ), such a device would pay for itself eventually. Assuming a saving of 100 litres a day, that would be 1m3 saved each fortnight. Probably about £3 a month saved on water bills.
Not massive but for anyone on a meter, it's effectively a free tool.
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I have always used a tap on the base of a my pole.
I havent used an aqua-adapter but do find that being able to turn my water supply off and on or adjust its flow rate is important.
But finding the tap on the end of the pole isnt the difficulty you appear to be making out it is. Its a bit like knowing where the ignition is in your car, you dont look for it, its quite instinctive as to where it is and you just put your keys in without thinking twice about it.
I just reach and turn the supply off, no time delays whatsoever.
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Hi Rise 'n Shine,
I realize that it's not a big issue or concern for everyone, it's just something that some of our customers have mentioned that they prefer about using the Aqua-dapter.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but depending on how your tap is connected it will either be in a different place depending on how much your pole is extended, or you have it fixed with a loop of hose from the tap to the brush?
Quite a few people have said that using the Aqua-dapter is quicker than they thought it would be, so they're able to save water between windows, when brushing cills, removing a stubborn mark from a conservatory roof etc.
However, if your tap is working for you, then great!
Paul
I'll post a pic of the setup once Ive retrieved my van from the deluge we've just had here, popped in for a bite to eat, but will post pic later.
Basically, yes, there is a loop from one end of the tap mounting to the pole.
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got mine this week and its probably the best bit of wfp kit i,ve bought so far , i,ve tried all the others ie autobrush , taps , triggers , pinching the hose , and the aqua dapter beats them all hands down , regards alan
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Assuming a saving of 100 litres a day
Paul i doubt very much you will be saving that amount a day
as the amount of water used from window to window is minimal
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triggers , pinching the hose , and the aqua dapter beats them all hands down , regards alan
Hi alan can you explain why you think this is as i have been using a trigger for years and you dont have to move your hand away from it to turn the water off,
With the aqua- dapter you have to move your hand to the base of the pole to turn off do you not? i dont know as i have not seen or used one
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I have one & think its brilliant. I prob save 50 - 70 litres on an average day.
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Nat, Do you really save that much water using the Aqua dapter instead of a tap??
Dave
Ps emailed you ;D
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I didn't use a tap before,.. just unclicked the quick connect to stop the water! Taps always annoyed me,.. either looking for it dragging behind me or tripping over the loop if it was on my belt (plus a wet leg). The aqua adapter is much better imo.
Nat, Do you really save that much water using the Aqua dapter instead of a tap??
Dave
Ps emailed you ;D
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Why did you bother having the loop fixed to your belt Nat?
Whats that all about?
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Why did you bother having the loop fixed to your belt Nat?
Whats that all about?
I had the tap on my belt,.. & the hose looped from it to the pole
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I never know why peeps fit it to their belt, this is what I have done
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Matt - thats not a bad set up for a tap but like Nat i hated the loop.
i've had the aqua daptor for just over 2 weeks and yes I DO save nearly 100 Ltrs ( not everyday )
but i now run a faster flow rate so rinse quicker and find more time in the day for an extra job and still get back
with more water in the tank and i had before.
I can't comment on a trigger as i never had one but i used to catch my hand on it or got in the way on those 'just about reach' windows, the aqua daptor is sleek and does not foul anything - water control is fab, i now turn off while scrubbing difficult to remove stains then back on to rinse then off to wipe the sill - this is better as the brush wipes clean now in a single sweep without the water pushing out further cr@p trapped in crevis.
i think the discounted pricew is about right for the product - highe, i feel would make it too expensive and i can see a little mod i would like done to it ( just seeing if it's feesible )
Darran
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I've never understood the issue with the loop actually, what is this loop problem that Im being denied ???
Also with it being fitted to the end of the pole you've almost always got your hand on it anyway, but theres no looking for it as I said before, you instinctively know where it is.
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i would have my hand on the bottom of pole that tap would get on my nerves holding on to that the hip belt is better by far the aqua seems really good
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i found the 'lump' not suitable to the way i handle the pole, i just like to grip it properly,
the loop for me used to snag and tangle and prob didn't help when i tripped ar$e over t!t when it got in the
way.
Like most things it suits some and not others, I'm a lefty so things in the van suit me and all you righty's do nothing
but moan you can't use the hose reel the controllers on the wrong side of the van.... yardy yar...
;D 8)
Darran
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i would have my hand on the bottom of pole that tap would get on my nerves holding on to that the hip belt is better by far the aqua seems really good
Move your hand 3" then ;D
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Has anyone made a video of themselves using the aqua-dapter
on there pole and to how they switch it on and off?
just watched the video of the one aqua-dapter did on you tube and it is quite clear he left the brush laying on the upper window sill in order to reach to the base of the pole to turn it off! with the water still running? so how does this save you water, i am not for or against the aqua- dapter as it looks better than a tap etc, i do think though that it is being overhyped simply because it is better than a tap etc and does not save the amounts of water being claimed on here!
Futhermore for those of you who rinse off the glass! how do you then switch it off
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Assuming a saving of 100 litres a day
Paul i doubt very much you will be saving that amount a day
as the amount of water used from window to window is minimal
Possibly not James but bear in mind that to save 100 litres a day, I would only need to save 50 litres a day in cleaning. Whatever is saved in cleaning automatically doubles up as the RO is set at about 50/50. I do work with a fairly high flow rate in order to lessen the chance of doing a duff job and to help me work at a decent pace so allowing for the RO waste, it may be quite possible to save the 100 a day. I've never measured it though so could well be wrong.
Also, bear in mind that whatever percentage of water is saved, a gain of similar proportion would be made in resin usage and membrane life.
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good post paul, as you know im trying one at the moment and it really does save water, i used another pole today without one and it wasnt as nice to use as the one with.
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Spring snapped on my aqua dapter yesterday. Good job I had a spare pole to use as I couldn't use the one with the aqua dapter once the spring snapped.
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i would have my hand on the bottom of pole that tap would get on my nerves holding on to that the hip belt is better by far the aqua seems really good
Move your hand 3" then ;D
hes not used to moving it that far ;D
I know I know childish, but I could not help myself I'm bored
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\\\what about when your cleaning the window and your hose snaggs, and lets face it thats alot!! does the water shut off? and what about when your moving on to the next window, and it snaggs on a rock, does it turn water supply on? just trying to work out if they worth it? Also, say i get a brand new carbon pole, do i really have to hacksaw the end of it to fit the aqua dapter and totaly invalidate the pole warranty? or does it just retrofit without damaging the pole?
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\\\what about when your cleaning the window and your hose snaggs, and lets face it thats alot!! does the water shut off? and what about when your moving on to the next window, and it snaggs on a rock, does it turn water supply on?
That was something I expected to be a problem,.. but so far it hasn't happened to me once.
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say i get a brand new carbon pole, do i really have to hacksaw the end of it to fit the aqua dapter and totaly invalidate the pole warranty
That would be a concern! although i think it is in theory a good product but not so much in practise!
I feel the product has been introduced to the window cleaning market to soon!
every other new product either fits on your existing pole or has an adapter to do so just like peters autobrush, so the idea having to chop bits of your pole makes me feel that it needs to be updated and more thought should have gone into it before launching it, am quite sure with the feedback that they are getting this will happen, until then i will stay with my trusted trigger.
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does it come with pole hose? noticed on review page how someone liked the yellow hose supplied with it
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I only use enough for it to stick out my pole when closed, then just attach my microbore to it and the whole lot goes up the pole without having to mess about with loads of excess pole hose.
I really wish I had got one of your gadgets instead of the increadibly crap autobrush I did get for 80 bloody quid with delivery, yes it includes a brush......which bristles warped in first 3-4 days !!!! Your product would be ideal for how I use my pole, But really skint at moment :(
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chopsie im ok with a pole tap now ive got used to it.cost me about £15.
dazmond
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tried trigger but it made 2 holes in pole with jubilee clip supplied.window cleaning wharehouse 42 quid delivered,alot cheaper on other sites! always shop about now.the guy said he never heard of that before,so just happend to me then?
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Fitted the aqua-daptor to my SLX -25 - no hacksawing required, Aqua-daptor guys really should
have thought this though as it keeps coming back as an excuse to rubbish the product.
the new SLX thread has a hole through it so the aqua daptor should go straight on, or simply warm up
the thread insert and pull off
i'm pretty certain this would be the same for any pole on the market.
i was going to use an auto-brush but wanted to fit it onto my brushes rather than get another new brush, but
the service was so poor i got the AD instead.
the produsct is extremely good - and as yet no complaints and loads of time/water savings.
Darran
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Hi Darran,
I explained this at some length in a post in reply to James' post last night, but my posts have been deleted without warning or explanation. So, I'm reluctant to spend the time typing it all out again, as this might get deleted too.
Sorry to the guys with questions, I had replied, hope you saw the answers before they were deleted :(
Paul
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just fitted the aqua daptor to my slx mk1 it doesnt fit as it should but i adapted it to fit i have emaild aqua daptor to advise them about so as they are aware of it ( not moaning or complaining) also i asked if i could have it garunteed for saturday delivery which they said yes at no extra charge and it arrived on saturday that was 1st class service
thanks
ps havent used it properly yet but it seems very good will post my findings after using it for a coulpe of days
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Paul just been watching one of the videos on youtube!
And where it screws on to the brush head on one side
could it not be made with a female endscrew on the other end?
that way it would just screw on to any pole?
if you get what i mean!
this would solve the problem of having to cut poles!
as all you would need to do is drill a hole on the endscrew on the pole for the hose to go through.
cheers james
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Have you been spying on our design meetings James? ;)
Seriously, we are looking at something like this, but unfortunately not all pole ends are the same!
The other thing to be considered is the strength. I posted a reply to you about this last night, but it's been deleted, so... if you go to our website and click on the link to the blog you can read about it there.
Paul
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Yep read your reply paul last night,
Looking at the video again would it not be easier just to drill a hole through the endscrew on your existing pole and feed the hose through and just slide it over would it then fit any pole?
That way you would not have cut or modifiy your pole in any way!
cheers james
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James,
Yes that's fine if the screw thread is narrow enough for the Aqua-dapter to fit over. As I mentioned they're not all the same, for instance some are solid (can't be drilled theough). Some of them don't actually need drilling though, there's already a hole - which I think Darran mentioned here.
As is mentioned in our FAQs it's really down to preference and getting the best fit to make sure it's secure when you're working.
Paul