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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mallie on August 13, 2010, 04:54:27 pm
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Hi guys doing the NCCA course in september, can any one recomend accommandation thats not going to cost an arm an leg cheers mallie.
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there's accomodation right there at the NSPCC building where the course is held, think its about £50 a night, is probably the best bet as your right there with no travelling and there is a bar and restaurant etc plus you can get a bit of extra time chatting to the others on the course and doing some hands on cleaning
regards
steve
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your best staying at the venue you get the whole evening drinking wine with mr pearce
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i am going up with a guy i met through the other forum, he's from tonypandy and i am from swansea . i think the venue is too expensive i got two night b&b at the campanile hotel for £58 its only a short taxi ride to the training venue so it will not be a problem having a few jars after training with the other guys.
as you will gather we are going up the day before so we will be there on the 2nd sept, if you are doing the same we can maybe meet up there my no is 07999820624.
regards
creighton
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You might get a night of drinking with Paul Pearce but it will be your own . I think his missus sows up his pockets before he goes out . Just Joshing you Pauly.
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I remember he showed us how to clean rugs and hang them properly after a few beers. Worth the stay! ;)
Bob
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Look at staying on site as in investment-not an expense.
If you don't think your carpet cleaning career is going to generate enough profit to justify staying on site then perhaps you should re-consider your proposed career.
Rog
It's really a no-brainer
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Hi guys doing the NCCA course in september, can any one recomend accommandation thats not going to cost an arm an leg cheers mallie.
Hi Mallie, if I can make it I will be staying on site.
Regards,
Paul
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doctor carpet two nights on site (comfortable en suite accomodation but NOT a hotel) £95 plus vat £110 approx.
two nights at hotel campanile (newly refurbished proper hotel) £58 inc vat taxi back from hotel on the one night everyone will hopefully be in the bar socialising after the first days training approx £6 between two of us
and the same for the return journey next morning total about £64 saving about £45 thats the no brainer the saving will pay for my beer and then some and i will miss nothing.
as for my carpet cleaning career not generating enough money for me to pay the extra (do you not think that was a bit of a silly thing for a grown up to say) i can afford to stay in any hotel i want (regardless of wether or not my carpet cleaning career takes off) and as it is me who is paying the bill not you dont you think it should be my choice? when i attend the cleansmart training course i will be staying at a hotel with gymnasium and pool for £41 per night at the end of the day its a bed and i want the best facilities i can for the cheapest price.
what exactly will i gain from staying at the training centre ? compared to how i have chosen to do the trip
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doctor carpet two nights on site (comfortable en suite accomodation but NOT a hotel) £95 plus vat £110 approx.
two nights at hotel campanile (newly refurbished proper hotel) £58 inc vat taxi back from hotel on the one night everyone will hopefully be in the bar socialising after the first days training approx £6 between two of us
and the same for the return journey next morning total about £64 saving about £45 thats the no brainer the saving will pay for my beer and then some and i will miss nothing.
as for my carpet cleaning career not generating enough money for me to pay the extra (do you not think that was a bit of a silly thing for a grown up to say) i can afford to stay in any hotel i want (regardless of wether or not my carpet cleaning career takes off) and as it is me who is paying the bill not you dont you think it should be my choice? when i attend the cleansmart training course i will be staying at a hotel with gymnasium and pool for £41 per night at the end of the day its a bed and i want the best facilities i can for the cheapest price.
what exactly will i gain from staying at the training centre ? compared to how i have chosen to do the trip
Whilst Creighton has made a valid point and reached, for himself, a good compromise, he has also succeded in highlighting an attitude that many in our industry adopt.
A lot of CCers feel that they are working in a price sensitive environment and so model their businesses to suit. The prospect may be able to afford a modest to premium costed service, but choose to buy on price. They pay the money, they make the choice. How often do hear on this forum of members being frustrated by this low-price issue?
Exactly the same is happening with this accomodation issue. We, as individuals, have different needs and priorities. Some, like me, Roger and others, will go for the ultimate convenience and known value and stay on site. That is our mindset to life, similar to most of our customers. Others will look around for the cheapest, even if it's not the best option.
So, in the future, don't moan if someone is undercutting your prices. That's the world you work, compete and live in.
If we were all the same, wouldn't life be dull ;)
In the meantime, through Paul and Pav and spending some good time with colleagues, some may see a c**** of light to an alternative way of doing business. You will all see ways of improving the quality of your clean and adding value to your service which, inturn, could lead you to being able to command higher fees.
No matter what your accomodation arrangements for this course, spend as much time with your colleagues as you possibly can. You'll gain almost as much from the networking as from the training.
Safe and happy learning :)
The Ken
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ken with the greatest respect how can you say i have gone for the" cheapest if not the best option" ? i have chosen a built for purpose hotel which i am sure will have far better facilities than the training centre which was not built as an accomodation unit and my choice heppens to be cheaper.
if someone offered to clean your carpets and gave you the choice of using a tm or a porty with the tm option being cheaper i am sure you would agree that would be a no brainer well i think of the training centre accomodation as being the porty and the hotel campanile as being the tm and that is how i have chosen, i did consider the implications of not staying on site but i could see no downside to be honest as it will be just as easy to take a taxi back at the end of the evening .
incidently i would class myself as a frequent user of both ibis and campanile hotels using them at least 6 and up to 12 times a year both in the uk and france andi would have still chosen the campanile even if it had been the same price as the training centre
regards
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Hi Creighton
You've misread or taken some of my post out of context. My only reference to your goodself is in the first paragraph and everything else, as stated, is a general observation.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
The Ken
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Creighton , it is common knowledge in every business setting , more business is done in an informal , "lobbying" setting , than in the actual official meetings , I think that is wht Ken is alluding to, not critiscising you for your choice of hotel. Of course , purpose built, cheaper seems better, but also of course , the on site option is better value because of the networking opportunities.
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point taken guys but what i was trying to get across is that i do not think i will miss out on any networking opportunities as i will be taking a drink in the bar after training like everyone else in fact that is what i am looking forward to most, only difference being i will get a taxi back at bedtime whilst everyone else will just have to climb a flight of stairs.
the other point i was trying to get across was imo i have managed to get better quality accomodation for less money and thats got to be good also.
regards
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I think you will find that it wont be as simple as taking a drink after training.I dont think the bar will be open that early.
At the end of the training most will go their separate ways and meet up again over dinner in the restuarant.That is what I found anyway,in fact there was very little late drinking as most went to their rooms soon after eating.Thats what happened on the course I did anyway.Each course will obviously be different
I would book a room at the centre and book dinner there too and enjoy the company of Paul and Pav over dinner.
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When i booked the course i didnt realise the ajoining accomodation also had a bar, so i booked a place near the city centre so i could have a few drinks on the two nights i stopped and walk back. Bit sad but i figured better than sitting in a room all night by myself.
Really wished i had stopped at the venue so i could have mingled on the evening and chated or even just listened to Paul and Pav (so much can be learned from these two).
As wayne has said after the training everyone went off and met up later (but not me :'( )
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In answer to your question I don't know where's cheap but I too have stayed on sight and although it's not 5star granted, I wasn't staying for the break, I was there to learn and learn't alot in the evening and got to know other CC.
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Hi guys alsorted, booked in at venue. Paul (westy) and creightonfoyle look forward to
seeing u there, cheers mallie.
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Hi guys alsorted, booked in at venue. Paul (westy) and creightonfoyle look forward to
seeing u there, cheers mallie.
Hi Mallie, the course is booked up, just rang now to book. The lady is going to get back to me today or tomorrow and let me know if they can squeeze me in, fingers crossed I will be there :)
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Hi guys alsorted, booked in at venue. Paul (westy) and creightonfoyle look forward to
seeing u there, cheers mallie.
All booked, got a call late on this afternoon, need to ring tomorrow to sort digs for the Friday night.
See you there, looking forward to it!
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out of interest, do people who've been carpet cleaning for a while and already had training still go on these courses or is just beginners?. i ask because i've half read people that i thought had experience say they were doing x y and z course which i'm sure one was ncca but i haven't seen a course for just experienced carpet cleaners.
shame it's so far away as would love to have gone and instead have chosen to try book prochem as it's far closer
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I went on the "standard" NCCA course after 16 years of carpet cleaning, and their were 2 others on the course been carpet cleaning longer. Half of the class of 24 were experianced c/cleaners as opposed to newbies.
You still learn a lot and get refreshed on what you forgot.
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out of interest, do people who've been carpet cleaning for a while and already had training still go on these courses or is just beginners?. i ask because i've half read people that i thought had experience say they were doing x y and z course which i'm sure one was ncca but i haven't seen a course for just experienced carpet cleaners.
shame it's so far away as would love to have gone and instead have chosen to try book prochem as it's far closer
i have over 20 years exp, and i took the prochem course last year and found it very good, also going to ncca in couple weeks, u can never learn enough if u want to keep at the top of your game as a proffessional carpet cleaner. As the old saying goes u learn something new every day . mallie.
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First did the NCCA carpet & upholstery course back in 1985, done it a couple of times since, also done the spot & stain removal course a couple of times and done other courses at Prochem, Alltec, Amtech and with Chemspec. Often it's the chatting time with other CC'c that you gain the most from.
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It was a real pleasure to meet all new faces male and female at the course, beginers like myself and those that have alot of experience in cc. I gained alot from it! and really really enjoyed it. Paul and Pawlo are great guys with lots of very sound knowledge to offer all and are a credit to the ncca. They both conducted the course in a professional but funny and witty manner, this is how all learning should be. It was a privilege to chat and ask questions in such a relaxed atmosphere. It was well worth the money. I would highly recommend the ncca course to anybody that is considering attending.
The only downfall for me was the bar shut way to early ;D
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i agree with everything westy said but fortunately as i was staying at a nearby hotel that bar was open when i got back.
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i agree with everything westy said but fortunately as i was staying at a nearby hotel that bar was open when i got back.
;D ;D you could have left me some of that wine you took back, I ended up with a warm bottle of vimto after I realised the bar had shut, nearly resorted to adding a bit of aftershave to it cause it was all I had :o. Nice to meet you mate!
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fingers crossed for thurs results guys.how do you think you did.also agree with manner in which training was carried out.if just a portion of paul or pab's enthusiam for industry rubs off then think we will all be onto a winner,especially if we can carry that knowledge and interest through customers door. :)
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westy drank both bottles on site, went on to the glenmorange at the hotel, had a bit of a thick head this morning but soldiered through. nice to meet you too and all the other guys, i am sure we will get together periodically over the coming years
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just for future reference guys (and for those who contributed to the early part of this thread), i think about half the people attending the course stayed on site and i think they all thought the accomodation was adequate. for my part the food was excellent quality freshly prepared home cooking. i spent the night at the bar and had a taxi back to my hotel when the bar closed and if i ever go back for another training course if i was staying for just one night i would stay on site but if it was for two nights at their current prices i would use a different hotel.