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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mark dew on August 05, 2010, 10:52:58 pm
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I've been asked to submit a quote for cleaning gutters alongside a quote for the windows.
I've got an idea for the window cleaning but there are also 640 metres of gutters to quote and i'm unsure?
They need clearing out and will only need clearing in certain places.
This is a pic. There is 640 metres of it. I will be doing it off ladders and using a drainage rod. There are 37 downpipes and i guestimate it will take about 60 ladder climbs. This is for clearing the gutters and not cleaning them. I think it will take me (and another footing my ladder) Maybe 1 day.
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£1500 for the gutters m8! ;D
nice job
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go on time mate, do the gutters first as you may have crap dropping onto the windows, also how are you doing them ladder or vac? just give them your day rates and add a little on top for safety.
Clee, £1500 !!!! bloody hell mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for reply. I was thinking along those lines if it was for clearning and cleaning etc. But they aren't going have debris all the way along. There are a few areas tht have debris from the trees etc but nothing too much.
What i'm wondering is do i price this one up on how long i reckon it will take?
Or do i put in a price per metre?
I met the gardeners when i was there and as most of it is unoccupied there is very little ground rent coming in.
I think price per metre will not get me the job.
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mark i would hire a pressue washer and lance as this would make the job so much easier, use a big scoop and then blast it out, woudl take a day liek that i think on ladders it might take you 2 days
i think you will be lucky if you get the job for more than £800
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Thanks for reply. I was thinking along those lines if it was for clearning and cleaning etc. But they aren't going have debris all the way along. There are a few areas tht have debris from the trees etc but nothing too much.
What i'm wondering is do i price this one up on how long i reckon it will take?
Or do i put in a price per metre?
I met the gardeners when i was there and as most of it is unoccupied there is very little ground rent coming in.
I think price per metre will not get me the job.
mark, tops that total job is going to take you 2 days even if you ladder all the gutters, its up to you if you want the work or not but if you price it up at anything over £450 i think you'll be lucky to get it. all in my opinion, id be going in lower than that by the way
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if that job was in cornwall i think you would be talking 300 cash as a one off and then what ever the windows are, but prices are cheap down here
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Thanks for reply. I was thinking along those lines if it was for clearning and cleaning etc. But they aren't going have debris all the way along. There are a few areas tht have debris from the trees etc but nothing too much.
What i'm wondering is do i price this one up on how long i reckon it will take?
Or do i put in a price per metre?
I met the gardeners when i was there and as most of it is unoccupied there is very little ground rent coming in.
I think price per metre will not get me the job.
mark, tops that total job is going to take you 2 days even if you ladder all the gutters, its up to you if you want the work or not but if you price it up at anything over £450 i think you'll be lucky to get it. all in my opinion, id be going in lower than that by the way
me as well
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also be very wary about who you talk to about your prices, your 'friendly ' gardener will all of a sudden be able to do gutters if he hears you are going to charge ££££££ to clean them
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Thanks for reply. I was thinking along those lines if it was for clearning and cleaning etc. But they aren't going have debris all the way along. There are a few areas tht have debris from the trees etc but nothing too much.
What i'm wondering is do i price this one up on how long i reckon it will take?
Or do i put in a price per metre?
I met the gardeners when i was there and as most of it is unoccupied there is very little ground rent coming in.
I think price per metre will not get me the job.
mark, tops that total job is going to take you 2 days even if you ladder all the gutters, its up to you if you want the work or not but if you price it up at anything over £450 i think you'll be lucky to get it. all in my opinion, id be going in lower than that by the way
Yes what you are saying makes sense. I'm thinking along the same lines.
I want the window cleaning and could tolerate a lower quote than if it was just a gutter clean. The gutters wouldn't need doing much.
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well tellthem your willing to do the gutters for less if they go on your wc books as a regular, so for arguments sake tell them normal gutter price would be £200 but if they take up your regular clean then it drpos to £150, money quoted is for illustration purpoeses only ;D an does not include wc ;D
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Jeez, some of the prices going around are silly, £300 for 640 metres of guttering?
I would be using a guttervac and I would be wanting atleast £500 if not £650 for the gutters.
I charge approximately £100 just to clear gutters on a 3 bed semi!
Matt
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yes matt but how busy are you with it also you have to charge high to cover your initial purchase price of the equipment
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I agree with matt in a way for domestic but on large commercial you can make a buck or two being cheaper for windows or gutters
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3-4 gutter jobs a week at the moment. Why would I charge high to cover the cost of the equipment, it will pay for itself in time.
I spend 3 hours on the job, clearing unblocking, pressure washing the downpipes and washing down the fascias and soffits.
Some guys on here charge £20 per side of a house, so £40 for a standard 3 bed semi. that wouldn't fill my fuel tank in my escort van!
Matt
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I agree with matt in a way for domestic but on large commercial you can make a buck or two being cheaper for windows or gutters
I agree Stu, that's why I said I would charge £500-£650, I currently charge £5 per metre on residential just to clear the guttering, I wouldn't go less than £1 per metre really.
But reading the post again, the original poster did say, not all the guttering needs clearing. so measure how much needs clearing and price it accordingly. if only half the guttering needs clearing then £300 wouldn't be too bad.
Matt
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Last Christmas I helped Craig at CT east/ Polarbrite clear guttring on several blocks of flats, we cleared several hundred metres, ranging in heights from 22ft to 40ft. it took 2 vaks 2 days to complete.
a 3 bed semi only has 15 metres, this place has 640!
Matt
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I agree with matt in a way for domestic but on large commercial you can make a buck or two being cheaper for windows or gutters
I agree Stu, that's why I said I would charge £500-£650, I currently charge £5 per metre on residential just to clear the guttering, I wouldn't go less than £1 per metre really.
But reading the post again, the original poster did say, not all the guttering needs clearing. so measure how much needs clearing and price it accordingly. if only half the guttering needs clearing then £300 wouldn't be too bad.
Matt
thats all I meant matt ;) I have no idea actually on the price but i tend to half my price for bigger jobs for that reason
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3-4 gutter jobs a week at the moment. Why would I charge high to cover the cost of the equipment, it will pay for itself in time.
I spend 3 hours on the job, clearing unblocking, pressure washing the downpipes and washing down the fascias and soffits.
Some guys on here charge £20 per side of a house, so £40 for a standard 3 bed semi. that wouldn't fill my fuel tank in my escort van!
Matt
matt i aint sayin your wrong m\te (got a lot of respect for you) im just sayin if i quoted them figures you personally would here my customers tellin me where to go all the way down in essex ;D £40 for a 3 bed semi that can be done in an hour with a scoop is good money
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Thanks for the replies.
Just to be clear, i will just be clearing the debris, which is patchy and not all the way around.
I won't be washing the gutters or drainpipes inside or outside.
I will be working off a ladder this time with someone footing it. And using drain rods to push the debris along.
I think there will approximately 60 ladder climbs and 1/2 of these climbs will be to collect the debris. The other 1/2 will be spent pushing the debris towards a collection spot.
I could be way out on time but i i think it could be done within 8 hours. Only because it isn't a proper clean. I reckon 2 or 3 days (18 hours) work to do a total clean.
Matt thanks for your times. Very handy.
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Ste If he goes in at £300, he really needs to hire a guttervac, it will be so much quicker.
race around the gutters for £300, then whatever the windows are.
I Charge the amount I do as I do a thorough clean and I give the customers a DVD of the video of before and after the clean, mostly for proof that I have cleaned them and secondly they can use it for proof if they need to claim on their buildings insurance if anything happens to the guttering.
It is really down to what you are happy working for, I personally am too much of a perfectionist (which i have been told is my downfall)
Matt
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Matt, what kit do you have to clean gutters? And if you don't mind, how much does it cost to get set up to do gutters. I have sl2 sections already.
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this is matts, i will get one myself one day
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Guter_Cleaning.html
matt has xtras like the camera as well as his full jet wash stuff
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i think them gutters will be pretty full look at the roofs theyre pretty mossy
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When I last spoke to Craig at polarbrite he was talking about doing a package wireless survey kit and the gutter vac for £1,000
Mark where are you based?
Matt
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Mark I don't mind helping you out on this job mate. that way you can try out the polar vak etc.
Richy does have a point though, the roof is very steep and it does appear to have moss on the roof.
If you want me to help you out on this job or even survey the gutters for you, you can email me.
matt@mb-windowcleaning.co.uk
Matt
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Yes thanks for the offer matt.
I've had a peek and while there is debris in places, they are mostly clear. Out of the 640 metres of gutters, there is probably 100 - 150 metres max of patchy debris.
The gardeners have been up a couple of times in the past and cleared blockages.
I'm in lowestoft, suffolk.
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If you are sure about the amount of guttering that needs clearing, I would say no more than £200, then what ever the windows would be.
Matt
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If you are sure about the amount of guttering that needs clearing, I would say no more than £200, then what ever the windows would be.
Matt
Thanks for that matt. I had in mind a bit more cos i'll have someone foot the ladder this time. I think a days work would do it. Am just unsure of how many hours that day is going to be.
Thanks for your help.
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£250 + windows.
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£3:00 per metre and £20:00 for each blocked downspout
If customer only wishes to pay per area that needs cleaning we would perform camera survey and mark areas to be cleaned with chalk either on the walkway or on the wall.
I Would charge £100 for the survey
Regards
Billy
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Jeez, some of the prices going around are silly, £300 for 640 metres of guttering?
I would be using a guttervac and I would be wanting atleast £500 if not £650 for the gutters.
I charge approximately £100 just to clear gutters on a 3 bed semi!
If you are sure about the amount of guttering that needs clearing, I would say no more than £200, then what ever the windows would be.
;D ;D
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I was asked to price up a reasonably large property today regarding just emptying clearing the gutters.
My usual rate for that is £3.50 a metre.
Ive seen people quoting up to £5.00 a metre for the same type of work which IMO is bizarre. To me just totally over the top, they must be so slow if they cant make a decent wage on less than that.
Anyway, I paced this place out today, it came to 78 metres. At £3.50 a metre that would have been £270.00. I knew just looking at it it wasn't going to be more than 3 hours work tops! I make good money but would find it hard to turn up at a job at nine in the morning and bugger of at midday approaching being £300 better off.
I would feel ripped off if I was the custard. And I dont like my custards to feel that way about me.
Mark, Id go in at personally, using an extending sweep/scoop which you can use at to increase your reach , so each ladder movement clears approx 15-20 feet a time.
Use a rojak or rubber matting.
Dont forget 640 metres is over half a kilometre, I think £1,000 is reasonable.
Good luck.
Matt
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Priced and cleaned 300 metres of gutters at £3 PER M, took us 2 days with gutter vac, had to empty vac around 18 times over the duration of this job,
Picked this job up after someone planned to scaffold and quoted 22K............Couldnt believe it
On the day we carried out this work we were filmed by various Housing associations and local authoritys
We have another job schedule next week 100 m of jungle in these gutters we have had to allow for cherry picker as the gutter vac will struggle to clear some of the plant life, quoted 1300 for this job due to picker hire.
We have 10 jobs in the pipeline over the next few weeks - all with the gutter vac.
Cant believe that ladders would be allowed on a site like this.... we have had to registered for Chas and have a waste licence - but should be getting plenty of work in this field
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Does the polar vac hose have to go up the outside of a pole or can you attach to the bottom of a pole i.e sl2?
What do you empty the rubbish into each time its full?
Gutterman what system do you use....
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Thanx for the info gutterman. :) :)
Mark
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even if its clear in places,i would rake every single inch ,even the totally clean sections , not only will this sound good to the customer but it will be easier to estimate how long it will take.
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Well for better or worse i've put a quote in.
I don't really want the gutter work, just the windows.
I don't know if i will hear anything?
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Jeez, some of the prices going around are silly, £300 for 640 metres of guttering?
I would be using a guttervac and I would be wanting atleast £500 if not £650 for the gutters.
I charge approximately £100 just to clear gutters on a 3 bed semi!
If you are sure about the amount of guttering that needs clearing, I would say no more than £200, then what ever the windows would be.
;D ;D
:o ::) :P :o ;) :D ;D :-X
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Matt or whoever, what do you think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160463292542&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_777wt_1139
I'm thinking about getting into this. Do you have a minimum price or minimum length of gutter you will do?
Thanks.