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Title: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: bridger windows on August 05, 2010, 03:58:16 pm
Does anyone know of an attachment for poles for cleaning gutters. We need to find a quicker method than standard brush heads to be able to bring price per meter to within certain establishment's budgets.

Any ideas chaps?
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 04:00:50 pm
Pressure washer and an extendable lance.
I have a 25ft lance and a 300psi pressure washer. it doesn't take long to wash down the guttering on a 3 bed semi.



Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: bridger windows on August 05, 2010, 04:17:09 pm
Presume you dont use pure water for this system? does it clean as effectively as the brush and pure water?
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: darren clarke on August 05, 2010, 04:21:46 pm
i use washer and lance as well, it usually brings it up great,  spray with tfr and wash off
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 04:39:58 pm
On my pressure washer I have a detergent syphon that I plug in the back then I drop it in the bottle of detergent and then I use the low pressure nozzle and spray it on then wait 10 mins then blast it off.
Takes next to know time.


Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 05:55:30 pm
Hi Matt,


Do you use a Gutter Vac for clearing the insides.  Thinking of getting one.

Which pressure washer do you use?

Many thanks,

Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 06:57:15 pm
Hi Rob, I use the PolarVak and a cheap pressure washer as this was the only one I could afford at the time, Think it cost £250 or around that figure of Ebay.



Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:04:13 pm
Cheers for that.  So with the polarvak you use existing pole?  Does the power for the pressure washer and vac  come from a plug or generator?

Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 07:11:16 pm
The pressure washer is a petrol powered, The PolarVak I use the customers electricity, hoping to get a generator when I eventually get a larger van.





Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:15:03 pm
Hi Matt,

The Polar Vak seems good value.   I presume you are happy with its performance?

Did your pressure washer come with the long lance?

Thanks for answering my questions. i am getting a lot of enquiries regarding gutters.


Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 07:25:46 pm
PolarVak is very good value for money, i have cleaned loads and loads of guuters with it, The extendable lance didn't come with the pressure washer, I paid £150 for the lance, I belive you can get one for approximately £100.




Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 07:28:41 pm
Rob this is similar to the lance I use.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/telescopic-pressure-washer-lance-_W0QQitemZ180539494319QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=120512276076&rvr_id=120512276076&cguid=aa4a8b891260a0e203004010ff6ea20e



Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:29:23 pm
Hi Matt,


Many thanks for for your advice. Really appreciate it.  :)


Cheers,


Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:30:49 pm
Rob this is similar to the lance I use.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/telescopic-pressure-washer-lance-_W0QQitemZ180539494319QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=120512276076&rvr_id=120512276076&cguid=aa4a8b891260a0e203004010ff6ea20e



Matt





Thank you. Looks like I might be spending some money next week!!!
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 07:37:58 pm
If you can afford it too Rob, have a look at a CCTV kit, I find this helps with customer confidence, as I video before and after the clean then show the customer, if they want to have a DVD it only takes 15 minutes to burn one for them.




Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:40:29 pm
Is that the survey kit on their website?   Does the vac then sit on the trolley?

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=40&products_id=233
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Mike #1 on August 05, 2010, 07:42:23 pm
cleaning spot also sell lances on ebay which you can buy a range of nozzels for and a internal gutter cleaning attachment for blasting debris down into to downpipe
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:47:50 pm
cleaning spot also sell lances on ebay which you can buy a range of nozzels for and a internal gutter cleaning attachment for blasting debris down into to downpipe

Thanks
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 07:48:34 pm
Is that the survey kit on their website?   Does the vac then sit on the trolley?

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=40&products_id=233


No the vac sits on 4 castors, the trolley for the surveillance kit hold the monitor and the battery pack.
I think the monitor is 7 or 8 inch, its quite big. I haven't got that kit, as I only found out about it after I had bought my kit.
I have seen it working when I went to see Craig at polarbrite. the good thing is the camera is wireless and has a range of 100metres. and the camera only uses a square 9v battery.
Rob where are you based?


Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 07:54:44 pm
Hi Matt,


Yes I had another look at the pictures and decided the Vac couldn't sit on the trolley!! I was being a bit dim then!!


I am in Malvern, Worcestershire.


Was your CCTV kit cheaper or do you think its best to go for their survey kit?


Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 08:42:26 pm
Hi Matt,


Where are you based?


Cheers,

Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 09:37:33 pm
Hi Rob, i am based in Leicester and Essex.
my kit was cheaper, but I have had problems with extanding the camera's cable from 2.5 metres to 7+ metres.
If I was to buy another kit it would certainly be a wireless one.
To be honest I can't fault the polarbrite survey kit.
If you can I would suggest going over there and having a look at the polarvak and survey kit, I think Craig is thinking of doing a complete polarVak kit with survey kit for around £1,000
If you give Craig a call tomorrow tell him Matt at MB window cleaning told you to give him a call.



Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 05, 2010, 10:08:24 pm
Hi Matt,   

Thanks again. I will call Craig tomorrow and see what he can do for me. 

Really helped me. Cheers.


Rob
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 05, 2010, 10:10:36 pm
Your welcome Rob.
Let me know how it goes.




Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Carl2009 on August 06, 2010, 08:15:23 am
Matt - when you spray with tfr and then blast off with the lance aren't you afraid of water ingress into the roof space....?
I see 3 areas for possible water ingress:

1. Between the soffit and the wall where the pvc or wood doesn't meet exactly flush with the wall.
2. On properties where there is no soffit, where the fascia board meets the wall.
3. Underneath and behind the gutter, beneath the overhanging roof tiles/slates.

I have a lance too and have tried both it and wfp. I have settled on the wfp / brush method (pretreated with tfr) as I was worried about this. Many houses I have done have a (albeit small) gap between the wall and soffit / fascia and I didn't want to take the risk. Where a house has silican sealant I didn't want to risk blasting it out of loosening it and have a string hanging down.

I might be overly worried, so has anyone had any experience of water getting inside a building / complaints?
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Susan @ MB Window Cleaning on August 06, 2010, 08:37:39 am
Carl I haven't recieved any complaints about that, I don't worry about it.
On the top course of bricks on the house, there are wooden barers that are bolted to the brickwork, and it is this barer that the trusses are nailled to. if water does get under the bottom roof tiles its only a small amount and it wouldn't get passed the barer. if the Soffits are wooden/board then I use an extension pole and an old applicator.





Matt
Title: Re: How to price Gutter Cleaning. Not Clearing
Post by: Rob Smith on August 06, 2010, 04:27:56 pm
Hi Matt,


Spoke to Craig.  They are doing Vak and Video for £1000 including VAT, so seems a good deal. Need the weekend to think about it! Off to footie tomorrow so will do my sums while travelling on the train. Will then order on Monday for delivery Tuesday.

Would be great to meet up for some tuition! Do you use the equipment on your own?

Rob