Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: giftedk on September 07, 2005, 03:53:14 pm
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hi all just wondering if anyone can help me price up a block of flats. Theres a total of 642 panes of glass
over 6 floors, it goes like;
Ground 190 panes of glass
First 87
second 207
third 64
fourth 30
fith 12
and internal 52
This is to be done twice a year.
Any help will be gratefully appreciated as i need to tell him today. also how much if they have it more regularly ?
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£500-800 for days work
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thanks easyclean id like to charge that but i dont think id get it, mind you im not to fussed if i dont.
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How are you going to clean them?
How many of you are going to do the job?
Twice a year what you have to remember is if you cost low you could pick up more work monthly in residential than you would earn from this one job.
Dont quote to low always go high then if you dont get it you didnt have it to begin with.
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How are you going to clean them?
How many of you are going to do the job?
Twice a year what you have to remember is if you cost low you could pick up more work monthly in residential than you would earn from this one job.
Dont quote to low always go high then if you dont get it you didnt have it to begin with.
Its going to be done with wfp, and there will be two men on the job. I hear people say charge £1.50 per window on commercial, which i presume is per bay. THis was awkward as some are single panes and some are 4 -6 per bay.
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I clean a lot of flats on my own i charge a daily rate not by the window.
Remember they could always ask someone with a squegee and platform at a cost of 500 plus or safer wfp.
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hi easy clean tell me to mind my own business if you like but i average about £120/day on residencial some done trad some wfp (eventually all wfp) I also am planning to move into commercial work very soon anyway how much do you do on average per day would £500-£800 be an average day/good day or an amazing day as it would be in my case. Also do you live in a wealthy area because im sure i would not be able to earn that kinda money in this small market town in lincolnshire.
giftedk i work it out to be £477 but i would probably Say £500 or maybe a little more depending on how brave i was feeling
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hi easy clean tell me to mind my own business if you like but i average about £120/day on residencial some done trad some wfp (eventually all wfp) I also am planning to move into commercial work very soon anyway how much do you do on average per day would £500-£800 be an average day/good day or an amazing day as it would be in my case. Also do you live in a wealthy area because im sure i would not be able to earn that kinda money in this small market town in lincolnshire.
giftedk i work it out to be £477 but i would probably Say £500 or maybe a little more depending on how brave i was feeling
Thanks mate, can i ask you how you worked it out, are you saying it will take you on your own 4 days ?
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Hi phillip not at all.
I live in oxfordshire so i suppose with the house prices here i suppose it could be considered a wealthy area.Also i am in a very large commercial town in between birmingham and london
i live in a town which is very largley populated with olot of 3-4 storie flats.I am also lucky in a respect that most of the f1 teams are situated in this area and i have to ssay this sometimes its who you know not what you know.
Yes a good day would be £500-800 a excellent day is 10 hours at £100 per hour a bad day esidential £200 and i honestly tell you i do £200 per day.I dont do small detatched houses anymore.I dont do one offs,once a years,my terms are within 7 days and everyone has been ok with these terms.
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well mate i would do it on my own as fast (doing a good jod of course)as posible if it took a day fantastic bring out the champain 2 days great 3 days i would be pleased 4 days ok...... you get the idea
i priced it quickly on a calculator fist time so it wasn't quet right. here is how i would price it up properly.
Ground 190 @ 50p =£95
First 87 @ 60p= £52.20
second 207 @ 80p= £165.60
third 64 @ £1 = £64
fourth 30@ £2 = £60
fith 12@ £3 = £38
Sub-Total=£474.80 Round up to £480
Sorry didnt notice internal before
and internal 52@£1=52
Grand total= £532 Round up to £550
That is how i would do it, however easyclean will have more experience on big jobs, my biggest job only takes two hours. I would say to remember that your gonna have to think about how much water you will need, how long it takes you to refill, can you refill on site. parking, traffic will it be better to clean at certain times of the day? etc like easy clean says dont price too low as you will regret it but if you price too high and dont get it youv lost nothing. Hope this helps
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About the water if you can get a varistream pump controller 700ltrs now lasts me easily without filling up a 65 flats on three floors
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I agree with easyclean just used my variestream for the first time today had put off buying one cos i thought it was only good for stopping pressure switch from burning out. how wrong i was, it saves water, give you more precise control over your water flow i think it is a must.
Easyclean well done i bet its taken alot of hard work to get where you are how long have you been going? ive been going for three years now and started off pricing low because i was given some bad advice, used to average about £70-80 a day and a good day was £100 but over this year ive improved the quality of my work given away the bad work and put prices up now i very rarely do under £100 a day. Hope to bulid up my work but i dont think i would be able to get to your level around here.But ill try. ;D
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sorry another question for easyclean hows your merlin going what your tds in and out (before resin). and how many litres of tap water do you think it is using to make 1 litre pure. Also what made you choose this over a 4040. sorry to ask so many questions but you must be doing something right to be on that kinda money, so i can learn from you but only if i ask questions.
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Hi Phillip
I have a 40x40 R/o and it will fill 1000ltr 3 hours, my tap water is 234tds before r/o and after r/o 0.02.
The waste in 1 to 1, so 1ltr pure and 1ltr waste.
2/3 of a 25kg bag of resin lasted 9 months.
Roy :)
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thanks roy i keep asking those question about the 4040 im very close to getting one but its alot of money, but it will be money well spent i just need to give myself a push in the right direction.
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Phillip you would not dissapointed with a large R/O.
Also the merlin was not around when I bought mine, they are cheaper and quick but I dont think they drop tds as low as the 4x40.
Roy :)
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hi i have one of these units though i am not getting that output do you add a pump to the ro if so what type of pump do you use?
Hi Phillip
I have a 40x40 R/o and it will fill 1000ltr 3 hours, my tap water is 234tds before r/o and after r/o 0.02.
The waste in 1 to 1, so 1ltr pure and 1ltr waste.
2/3 of a 25kg bag of resin lasted 9 months.
Roy :)
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i know ive found out that merlin has a high tds. the problem is im still more trad than wfp but aim to change this so currently getting that size of ro would be like using a sledge hamer to kill an ant. however im getting married soon so part of me thinks to get the ro now while i still have money to spare.
All this thinkings making my head hurt.
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Callum
No I dont have a pump my mains preasure is just over 80psi.
Roy
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Callum
Do you have fitted a tap to restrict the waste flow as it shoud be callibrated to give one to one.
Roy :)
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No problem phillip.
I have been going for just over two years.I started off with a fiesta and ladders and went straight to wfp 3 months later.I didnt have any money to invest so my bank gambled on me as ive been with them so long.
My first big job fell through and thats when i thought oops ive really got to make this work.I used to be delivery driver and that was making me ill getting up at 2 in the morning and multi dropping in central london most days.So i got into this weekends to start with.Then when i new i had enough to cover my house bills etc i gave up and went full time.
Like i said some of my customers have been luck right place right time and most have been word of mouth.
I started with tucker poles which i run from two retratca hoses and on one client go over 70 feet.I have two 60psi shurflow pumps and as mentioned on other threads had probllems with the swtiches on the pumps blowing because of water flow.I done this to cut resin costs not water but long term cost me more thorugh lost days because of wating for new switches.So i invested in a varistream controller great move.
The reason i went with a merlin ro was because i looked at leasing units etc but didnt want to spend 1000 a month on lease so i run from home but dont have a garage so merlin is ideal.
I get 1:2 on water and waste because i have a really good water pressure and can fill my 700 lrt tank witin 4 hours from empty.
Many people on here ask about water costs and waste etc but you have to look at it long term.Ok your water bill doubles from 200 to 400 every 6 months but i was spending 2,500 in the same period on resin which i dont do now for 18-24 months.And you dont have the hassle of running out of resin mid week waiting for more and losing days working.
Like many others here i didnt have a clue about quoting ok i got loads of details form th nfmw&gc and other people but only one person really helped me.He said what do you want to earn in a day add your over heads and youve come up with a quoting system quick and to the point.
So now when i quote i quote in hours not windows,and i have a starting price of 20.00 and commercial 45.00 per hour to the nearest hour.I didnt have any training just some common sense,didnt know what t owrite when quoting just learnt as ive gone on.The best part of this job is customer satisfaction if ive been late ive cleaned the inside free and sometimes done the outside free too.Ive also told many customers that if they give me one new 20.oo customer i do theirs free next and this has bought me alot of work.Some people think its greed ive quoted jobs for 500 for a day they have been quoted 800-1000 so ive not done too bad.One customer have build 250,000 sports cars they used to pay 1,600 per quarter i do for 200 but i go every month takes 2 hours but they still save a lot of money.
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lso the merlin was not around when I bought mine, they are cheaper and quick but I dont think they drop tds as low as the 4x40.
Roy mine goes in at 285 comes out at 10
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easyclean thanks for your post it was v intresting do you have a pre filter on your merlin and if so where did you get them both from.
thanks again.