Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stecrossley on July 12, 2010, 04:21:58 pm
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just a quick rant agreed to buy Paul Roultons system from the forum half the money paid into account last Saturday deal done
but no then on the following Friday Paul changed his mind money paid back into my account same day
this has cost me clients as i had taken on some big jobs which i have had to pull out from and is not how i am trying to run my buisiness and build up trust with my customers
so i dont know about a clean it god because surely this forum doesnt condone such under hand dealings but anyway Paul if you do read this I wish you all the best with whatever you now decide to do but you really did drop me in it just as i am starting out and trying to build up trust in my name and the job i am doing
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To be a "clean it up god" all you have to do is have a high post count mate....its got nothing to do with admin or moderators
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Ste,
As H2 says any idiot can make over 500 posts, as for you dealings with Paul - if you have any grievance with him you should contact him directly and not be splashing it around an open forum!
Regards
Al
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just a quick rant agreed to buy Paul Roultons system from the forum half the money paid into account last Saturday deal done
but no then on the following Friday Paul changed his mind money paid back into my account same day
this has cost me clients as i had taken on some big jobs which i have had to pull out from and is not how i am trying to run my buisiness and build up trust with my customers
so i dont know about a clean it god because surely this forum doesnt condone such under hand dealings but anyway Paul if you do read this I wish you all the best with whatever you now decide to do but you really did drop me in it just as i am starting out and trying to build up trust in my name and the job i am doing
Without being rude, you should not have done anything till you had the system , seems you have learnt the hard way, underhand would have been to not give your money back, think yourself lucky the guy was honest. So really you should praise the clean it up gods.
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So really you should praise the clean it up gods.
Yes, we are the all seeing holy ones. ;D
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paul as in hitman?
ifit i will say he comes accross as a genuine honest guy,who has had some real bad luck with his back,he was selling up everything so probably got a better offer or decided not to sell it,i think you should be chatting with him directly and not calling him on here!
I feel that you are going the totally the wrong way about it by coming on here,maybe you should get a backpack as a backup or a trolley as you always need a backup anyway and then your customers wouldnt have been let down!
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well said al
steve dont know what agreement you have with paul but its up to the the 2 parties to settle arguments not the forum pauls paid the money back aint he
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Paul aint called "The Hitman" for nothing!!! ;D ;D ;D
Better delete the thread mate!!
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just a quick rant agreed to buy Paul Roultons system from the forum half the money paid into account last Saturday deal done
but no then on the following Friday Paul changed his mind money paid back into my account same day
this has cost me clients as i had taken on some big jobs which i have had to pull out from and is not how i am trying to run my buisiness and build up trust with my customers
so i dont know about a clean it god because surely this forum doesnt condone such under hand dealings but anyway Paul if you do read this I wish you all the best with whatever you now decide to do but you really did drop me in it just as i am starting out and trying to build up trust in my name and the job i am doing
Think your over stepping the mark there, i took some of paul's work and he is a genuine helpful guy I for one wouldn't go sending a system to someone who is only prepared to pay half the money before recieving it, would you?
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i know ste the op of this, i recommended Pauls gear to him when it went up for sale as i also thought paul came across as a genuine guy, Ste has asked him numerous times why he has pulled out of a 'done deal' that had a deposit payed on it, he got no explanation at all. wether he got the money back or not is not the issue (well it is as well i suppose) its the fact they had done the deal for what Paul said he was happy with. He had the money for nearly a week and the system was supposed to be delivered last week so Ste took on extra work (you dont buy a 70ft pole if all your work is 2 storie stuff do you?????) that needed a full wfp set up as his trolley system was not sufficient for this work.
By having a rant on here about a fellow poster is no different to having a rant about ionics or another supplier. Ste is rightly pee'd off with whats happened and so am i bit as i recommended Paul to him. I know Paul has had health issues and i feel for him but thats not the issue here, the issue is whats ste has said at the beginning
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Think your over stepping the mark there, i took some of paul's work and he is a genuine helpful guy I for one wouldn't go sending a system to someone who is only prepared to pay half the money before recieving it, would you?
so when you bought his work did you just pay him all the money up front or did you go and see the work first? he payed half on agreement of paying the other half when it arrived, Paul had all his phone numbers and also his address's
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Ste,
As H2 says any idiot can make over 500 posts, as for you dealings with Paul - if you have any grievance with him you should contact him directly and not be splashing it around an open forum!
Regards
Al
I am only in the 300's yet I am a God. perhaps I should be a Demi God ;D
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Think your over stepping the mark there, i took some of paul's work and he is a genuine helpful guy I for one wouldn't go sending a system to someone who is only prepared to pay half the money before recieving it, would you?
so when you bought his work did you just pay him all the money up front or did you go and see the work first? he payed half on agreement of paying the other half when it arrived, Paul had all his phone numbers and also his address's
who said anything about paying for the work i took..at the end of the day to come on here and slag someone off is not right, there are always two sides to a story in these situations and i know for sure this one is no different..
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Ste,
As H2 says any idiot can make over 500 posts, as for you dealings with Paul - if you have any grievance with him you should contact him directly and not be splashing it around an open forum!
Regards
Al
I am only in the 300's yet I am a God. perhaps I should be a Demi God ;D
Thats because it is 250 posts for a god ::)
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the deal was done 1st that ste paid the full amount i asked 4the system, plus half the postal costs. then ste phoned me & said he was not happy as he had been stiched up in the past. so he then wanted 2pay half up front then the other half on dell. i said ok 2 that, but wasnt really happy with it. u dont get that deal anywhere. so i pulled out of the deal & gave back the money soon as. as 4the work ste got, that is not my fault. cause he would not of got the system untill the end of this week, as he didnt want 2do nextday. ste went 4 the 3/4 day delivery. ste if u have a problem m8 call me. u where the 1 who changed the deal in the 1st place. ;)
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Paul, slightly offtopic, how you doing mate?
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buy all your gear brand new from the proper suppliers!
if you had these commercial jobs lined up surely you could soon make it pay for the system!
i never buy anything second hand apart from cars/vans!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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so paul did he want the system delivered and then would pay you straight away or would you have to wait a few days
because if it was me, i would of driven down and bought it cash and then that way it woudl of all be sorted
sounds like he wanted it for a load of work which he has missed out on becasue he didnt have the system, sounds like he need to do the job to pay you,
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Paul the deal was agreed for half up front last Saturday when i paid the money into your account so i did not change the deal at all you only texted me the following thursday SAT SUN MON TUES WED THURS money back FRI oh yes obviously not next day must of gone for the 6 day option you agreed to the deal then changed your mind nothing that we agreed did i back out off also when you said you werent happy about the money not all being up front i explaineed i had taken extra work on so i would pay the remainder first thing the next the morning as i was depending on the system then you could of sent it when money in your account if you had been offered more you could of at least been honest about it
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so basically hes whining about nothing,if he paid up front he would have it but not yet because he was too tight to pay the extra for next day meaning he wouldnt have had it for the work hes moaning about he didnt do!
paul,i dont blame you for not sending it,not many would!
the deal was done 1st that ste paid the full amount i asked 4the system, plus half the postal costs. then ste phoned me & said he was not happy as he had been stiched up in the past. so he then wanted 2pay half up front then the other half on dell. i said ok 2 that, but wasnt really happy with it. u dont get that deal anywhere. so i pulled out of the deal & gave back the money soon as. as 4the work ste got, that is not my fault. cause he would not of got the system untill the end of this week, as he didnt want 2do nextday. ste went 4 the 3/4 day delivery. ste if u have a problem m8 call me. u where the 1 who changed the deal in the 1st place. ;)
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sounds like he wanted it for a load of work which he has missed out on becasue he didnt have the system, sounds like he need to do the job to pay you,
i dont think this is true by reading the post ,some people dont like to pay up front for goods all at once in case the goods dont turn up .
if it was me i would have hired a van for 40.00 and gone and payed in full and everyone would be happy.also why dont you just call paul you have no need to plaster it all over the net.
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Darren as i said i then offered to pay all up front but Paul said he had changed his mind so you are talking s""t mate
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buy all your gear brand new from the proper suppliers!
if you had these commercial jobs lined up surely you could soon make it pay for the system!
i never buy anything second hand apart from cars/vans!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Dazmond, there is nothing wrong with buying secondhand gear you will soon learn this with wfp there is loads of secondhand gear, most is from people that sell after they start up think its a walk in the park realise it isnt and sell it back off cheap. ;D and other out grow what they have and sell it on.
Shame this guy didnt just call the other rather than post it on here first, the guy has replied to it, and I would like to see the poster response to it.
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personally i dont see the point in buying second hand when it comes to equipment as itll get hammered day in/day out and you usually have some warranty with pumps and poles should anything go wrong.
i agree though a private phone call to paul would have been better.
its sounds like paul has had to make a tough decision regarding selling his gear and equipment and its not as if he didnt give you your money back!!
best wishes paul by the way and i hope your back improves and good luck with whatever you do in the future.
regards and best wishes
dazmond
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u said ur mate only wanted to pay half up front, paul then changed his mind and give you the money back, should of just paid up then it would of been urs
like cleaner said hire a van and go get it
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surely he has a van if hes buying a van system???
u said ur mate only wanted to pay half up front, paul then changed his mind and give you the money back, should of just paid up then it would of been urs
like cleaner said hire a van and go get it
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well all i can say about my dealings with paul
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i offered a price for his slx,he agreed
i sen full amount of money.he sent the slx.
no problem,
great guy to talk to and no problems with dealing with him.
in fact there must be some sort of trust when buying second hand gear over the internet.
but if you never had the money in full why where you asking to buy something in the first place.and relying on work to pay for it after you recd
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Personally I am a hop in the van and pay cash kinda guy. Did it today, bought a pressure washer for £300.00, met the guy half way, looked it over and paid cash. Everyone happy.
I wouldn't have dreamed of saying 'I'll pay half, you send and I'll pay the rest'. I would have been certain he would have told me to get stuffed as I would him if the tables were turned.
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Here mate buy new and fitted ;)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40-RO-650-LITRE-WATER-FED-POLE-WINDOW-CLEANING-SYSTEM-/250661803110?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3a5c9b9466
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I think there are lessons to be had all round.
A seller is entitled to change his mind, especially if he doesnt feel comfortable with the deal, likewise for the buyer.
I dont htink there is any harm done so far, but I would try to wind this down before it escalates into something bigger, this is not doing either one of you any good.
So if either party wants this locking or deleting, let me know.
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personally i dont see the point in buying second hand when it comes to equipment as itll get hammered day in/day out and you usually have some warranty with pumps and poles should anything go wrong.
i agree though a private phone call to paul would have been better.
its sounds like paul has had to make a tough decision regarding selling his gear and equipment and its not as if he didnt give you your money back!!
best wishes paul by the way and i hope your back improves and good luck with whatever you do in the future.
regards and best wishes
dazmond
I agree. Ste just get over it and move on. You are coming across very unprofessional and childish the way you are whinging because you are not getting it your way.
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Paul, slightly offtopic, how you doing mate?
bit peed off 2b honest m8, was put in 2have a 3rd opp done, they where gonna put metal rods in my back. but they told me if it doesnt work i have a high chance of ending up in a wheel chair :(. not wot i wanted 2hear, but i now know im not going 4the opp. ;D
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I think there are lessons to be had all round.
A seller is entitled to change his mind, especially if he doesnt feel comfortable with the deal, likewise for the buyer.
I dont htink there is any harm done so far, but I would try to wind this down before it escalates into something bigger, this is not doing either one of you any good.
So if either party wants this locking or deleting, let me know.
im fine with it, but thanks 4the offer Dave. i think there is a lesson 2b learned here. so if it helps some1 in the future, all well & good. :)
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Paul, slightly offtopic, how you doing mate?
bit peed off 2b honest m8, was put in 2have a 3rd opp done, they where gonna put metal rods in my back. but they told me if it doesnt work i have a high chance of ending up in a wheel chair :(. not wot i wanted 2hear, but i now know im not going 4the opp. ;D
Blimey mate I didnt realise the problem was that bad! I hope you get yourself sorted mate!
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thanks m8 ;). i must admit.... i didnt think it was that bad :-\
just gonna carry on as i am.
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Is that all who would to pass judgement before the jury goes to consider your verdict.THis hole post is so not needed.Silence in COURT.JUDGE WIZKID RESIDES.
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objection m'lud :D
the jury have indeed considered the verdict....mr forumman what is your verdict?
NOT PROVEN
both parties are hereby admonished to keep the peace within the forum.
CASE CLOSED. 8)
i fink ::)