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Title: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Ian101 on July 07, 2010, 09:59:27 pm
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: A+CleaningService on July 07, 2010, 10:03:25 pm
Why not 6 weeks, split the difference.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: tom2009 on July 07, 2010, 10:03:58 pm
I'm new too Ian and most of my biz is on an 8 week rotation. Works well for me at the moment. More customers = more opportunity for 1 off other work, more people to recomend you etc.
probably gonna get blasted now! :D
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: richard jagger on July 07, 2010, 10:06:08 pm
I to find the custes seam to want 8 weeks. My 8 week is 25% more than 4 weeks and they are just as happy to pay.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: the bfg on July 07, 2010, 10:10:07 pm
nothing wrong with 8 week customers,  why would you wanna turn them down ?????

seems like you wanna have your cake and eat it,      turning work away like that is very poor business sense

work is work
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: martinsadie on July 07, 2010, 10:11:00 pm
all 2 and 4 weeks around here
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: bobby p on July 07, 2010, 10:17:01 pm
ive settled on 6 weekly .  i tell a new customer that most of the round is 4weekly(not true) but can offer them a 6weeker if it helps. 99% go for that
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Smudger on July 07, 2010, 10:19:46 pm
4 8 or 12 weekly.

i always pitch 4 wky as dicounted rate  ie. £10.00  this gives regular work every month and is 13 cleans a year.

8 wky is + 50% - £15.00  worth doing as more £££  per clean - takes a bit of juggling to keep rounds balanced.

12 wky   same as 1st price cleans - double 4 wky price.

Darran
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Skyglide on July 07, 2010, 10:23:13 pm
If you are WFP and more than 3 miles from the coast eight weeks is the right cycle - customers want it, the glass stays clean.  Need more customers and don't forget when you are quoting - this method the windows stay cleaner longer and I don't want you to waste money on four weekly. They love it.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on July 07, 2010, 10:23:44 pm
On my previous round i used to offer people 4 or 8 weekly cleans. This is what i used to say....

Glass, frames, doors & sills will be £10 - monthly or £12 - 2 monthly (then pause and wait for them to make the next move - keep completley quiet till they make a descision or tell you to p off ;D )

If anyone asked why its more for 2 monthly, i told them that its a longer period of time between cleans and takes a little longer than those who have it done monthly.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on July 07, 2010, 10:34:01 pm
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.
richy wilts is mostly 8wkly but e charges quite well i tend to want 4wkly but if
custy wants 8wkly ill do it but more dollar  :)
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: darren clarke on July 07, 2010, 10:41:55 pm
as soon as 8 weeks become standard  some one will be maoning that custy want it every 3 months,   just do 6 weeks and say thats all you do
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Paul Coleman on July 07, 2010, 10:44:07 pm
Why not 6 weeks, split the difference.

That's what I started doing a long time ago.  A lot less people ask for 12 weekly than used to ask for 8 weekly.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: anthony eton on July 07, 2010, 11:00:48 pm
Hi Ian,I offer four weeks,six weeks or eight weeks and I tell the potentual customer that after eight weeks it becomes a new clean and I will have to charge them an appropriate amount.Cheers Ant. 8)
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Ian101 on July 07, 2010, 11:59:45 pm
nothing wrong with 8 week customers,  why would you wanna turn them down ?????

seems like you wanna have your cake and eat it,      turning work away like that is very poor business sense

work is work
Yes bfg ur correct wouldn't turn any work away ever meant to say not going to try and push them into a 4 weekly cycle but came out wrong ... Long day
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: prestige cleaners on July 08, 2010, 12:19:54 am
My round is mostly 8 weeks, charge 20 quid for standard house, everyone's happy. I earn more, they pay less. Simples.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: mikecam on July 08, 2010, 12:44:00 am
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.

You might be missing something.... doing 'a lot of 8 week customers' you will either experience highs and lows in your monthly incomes, or a headache to even them out. Also as you've sussed you're back to first clean scenario, they will generally be hard work to re do and not easy like a maintainance clean so they need to be priced accordingley.
 As you're starting out they aint to much of a problem but as you get busier they will be and then you'll know you're either getting the right money for them or you'll drop them. Its something only you will know yourself.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 08, 2010, 07:34:14 am
On my previous round i used to offer people 4 or 8 weekly cleans. This is what i used to say....

Glass, frames, doors & sills will be £10 - monthly or £12 - 2 monthly (then pause and wait for them to make the next move - keep completley quiet till they make a descision or tell you to p off ;D )

If anyone asked why its more for 2 monthly, i told them that its a longer period of time between cleans and takes a little longer than those who have it done monthly.

Bingo!
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Londoner on July 08, 2010, 07:41:34 am
First of all. before you discuss price, always ask how often they want their windows done. Make out that is a fabulous option that you and you alone offer, no other window cleaner is this flexible. By telling you a frequency they more or less agree to having their windows done.

I don't put any extra on because my prices are high anyway but the flexibility wins you customers and gets you referrals. I must have got 20 referrals last year just based on flexibility. Lots of old ladies want their windows done but cant afford every month. A customer is still a customer.

With George it really doesn't make any difference what the frequency is you just print a worksheet and who ever is due is on the list.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Dave Anderson on July 08, 2010, 07:43:37 am
8 weekly for me..the thought of cleaning the same house every 4 or 2 weeks would drive me nuts...just too boring.

Most here in Holland are 6 weekly but 8 weeks for me and a little extra couple of euro's on top...so more customers needed but my work is worth more per job/hour.

Not alot of difference in the work required to clean 8 weekly over 4...

Dave.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: lyndy on July 08, 2010, 10:41:28 am
We charge the same,it's ok for the guys that have plenty of work, but when ian has only a few custys take 8 weekly at the same price
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: LSB on July 08, 2010, 01:46:20 pm
most of my round is 4 weekly , and some 8 weekly  , i dont charge any different !
i dont do 12 weekly or one offs !
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: DaveG on July 08, 2010, 02:34:25 pm
Ive got a few bi monthlys and they dont take any longer to clean than a monthly job :o
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: dazmond on July 08, 2010, 05:11:24 pm
all new jobs are going on 8 weekly at a good price with frames/sills/doors cleaned as standard.ALL WFP!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 a lot of my round is very compact and is 4 weekly but im changing the frequency on new work as i can charge more and wfp will keep em cleaner longer!!!


dazmond
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: prestigeclean on July 08, 2010, 09:02:15 pm
when i started i offered 4 or 8 weekly but far too many went for 8 weekly , and it took me  alot longer to build the round , so i would say go for 6 weekly , the round will grow quicker , obviously if you go for monthly it will be even quicker , however personally i,ve found that the longer the cleaning frequency the more likely they will stick around regards alan
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 08, 2010, 09:11:12 pm
mine gets done when i get there :P :P

anywhere between 5/6 weeks.
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: martinsadie on July 08, 2010, 10:15:08 pm

 and wfp will keep em cleaner longer!!!


dazmond
thats a load of bull, the windows i have been cleaning arnt to bad but where the top openers have been open they are filthy, wfp wont stop the dust settling on these
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: chopsie on July 08, 2010, 10:43:50 pm
I offer monthly or bi-monthly for my local area (which I canvassed first) and 6 weekly for my outer areas. Wish I had only offered 6 weekly full stop from the outset as most if not all my 6 weekly's are very happy with this. In one of my 6 weekly areas I started offering the option of monthly or bi-montly as well, That was mental as I ended up going to the same street (sometimes next door) within a couple of weeks. Soon changed them to 6 weekly!!
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: dazmond on July 08, 2010, 11:05:14 pm
what do you know stan?your trad still using fairy liquid!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


regards

dazmond
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: martinsadie on July 09, 2010, 07:48:23 pm
new pole boy just started next to one of my rounds,had one of his customers asking me to start doing his windows,as the pole is rubbish  ;)
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: bobplum on July 09, 2010, 10:08:33 pm
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.

ive seen your cleaning pal and you wont last a week never mind 8 lol
lots of luv
bob ;D
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Ian101 on July 09, 2010, 11:39:38 pm
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.

ive seen your cleaning pal and you wont last a week never mind 8 lol
lots of luv
bob ;D

but you taught me everything I know  ;D  want my money back you charged me for them window cleaning lessons  ;D
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: darren clarke on July 10, 2010, 08:08:11 am
i think 6 weeks will be the future as it is a good length of time to be coming back to clean the windows

when it was trad only every 2 weeks was fine, then 4 weeks with wfp, but this seem to come around to soon for me, as i collect the week after i have done the windows and it seem that i am always cleaning the same windows

well priced 6 week work, is the future lol
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: martinsadie on July 10, 2010, 06:24:45 pm
6 new ones today all 2 weekly ,thats the future  ;)
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: tomy jackson on July 10, 2010, 06:38:42 pm
only if you dont fall off and kil your self  ;D
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on July 11, 2010, 01:53:23 am
Seem to be getting a lot of 8 week customers at the moment ... as I just starting out Im not going to turn them down.

however thinking about it driving home tonight so long as I charge a few quid more than a 4 weekly clean eventually I can do twice as many customers than a 4 weekly round but bringing in a higher average. ??

Does this sound right or am I missing something ... its been a long tiring day  :'(

I realise going have to canvass a lot of customers but all part of the job.

ive seen your cleaning pal and you wont last a week never mind 8 lol
lots of luv
bob ;D

but you taught me everything I know  ;D  want my money back you charged me for them window cleaning lessons  ;D
did he u shuda rung me m8 im the best in the
north west lol cud have something of interest to u ian
Title: Re: 4 weeks v 8 weeks
Post by: Ian101 on July 11, 2010, 07:50:09 am
Thanks Gav ... will call u tomorrow !