Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Rochester on July 07, 2010, 05:56:15 am
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10533376.stm
Starts on Friday, if you are in this area you need see how it affects you if you are WFP.
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Water levels in many areas and resevoirs have depleted probably because of wfp.
When you think, unless your,re harvesting, a third probably goes down th drain!
Now expect the w/cs to come on and say their not a high user, their main business is traditional.
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this might sound daft but what if you used a back pack , its not a hose pipe realy is it , could this be a way round this ban.
after all the pipe up the poll is only about 6 mm anyway.
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this might sound daft but what if you used a back pack , its not a hose pipe realy is it , could this be a way round this ban.
after all the pipe up the poll is only about 6 mm anyway.
I think you'll find if you talk to your local water board it's the fact that you use a hose pipe to produce the pure water in the first place.
Gordon
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so what about big garden centres then , they wont use a watering can to water thousands of plants
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this might sound daft but what if you used a back pack , its not a hose pipe realy is it , could this be a way round this ban.
after all the pipe up the poll is only about 6 mm anyway.
I think you'll find if you talk to your local water board it's the fact that you use a hose pipe to produce the pure water in the first place.
Gordon
I have about 5 metres of hose to my RO, if I were to replace that with copper pipe fixed to the wall, then it’s no different to a fixed appliance in my home such as a washing machine or shower.
Once the water is produced does the use of hoses to get it to the pole still count?
We have all these so called Federations and Guilds, which are there to represent "the window cleaner at work" how come no one seems to know what can and can’t be done?
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i will have just got my first cleans out of the way by friday! ;D ;D
the hosepipe ban does NOT affect us!!as we purify it for commercial reasons!
im DI ONLY and use no more than 250L a day so ill just carry on as normal.
now if a drought order was issued id just go back to ladders and trad pole for my work until the order was lifted.
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i think my conny roofs with hose on custys outside taps will have to be put off for a while though!! ::) ::) ::)
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As I understand it a hose pipe ban does not effect you. But a drought order does two different thing's.
Roy
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A hosepipe ban in the lake district! Pathetic!
What next? Snowdonia? ::)
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Water levels in many areas and resevoirs have depleted probably because of wfp.
When you think, unless your,re harvesting, a third probably goes down th drain!
Now expect the w/cs to come on and say their not a high user, their main business is traditional.
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i agree wfp is a very un-economical way to clean windows but i dont think business users will be banned unless it turns into a proper drought like we had in 1976 when everyone's water supply was cut off and standing tanks placed in each area, but long way from that yet.
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makes ya laugh doesnt it especially with all that rain we had over the winter
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We seem to be OK in Derbyshire (Severn Trent Water) 81.6% overall with 2 of the Dewent res at just over 50%.
I think you only need to wory when a drought order comes in. That said it doesn't look good if customers cant use water and we do.
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i have to run a hosepipe down my stairs through a di then fill up my barrels as i live in a first floor flat!
is this illegal then from friday morning??
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makes ya laugh doesnt it especially with all that rain we had over the winter
this whole country makes me laugh its destroying itself and anyone trying to build a business will get the life taxed out of them or regulated to death haa great britian what a joke.
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i was just thinking the same as dazmond just posted
i can see some moaning customers next week
andy
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Does not affect commercial business untill it gets really bad.
Anyway i thought it was always raining up north.
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look what happened in the winter with all that snow no side rounds and many main routes never got gritted complete nightmare than it come out most of the rock salt had been sold abroad, now who,s been buying up all our water reserves.
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i can confirm it is raining in Bolton as we speak"
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what about domestic work
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its chucking it down here now and ive got a few big posh houses to clean.maybe its better to clean these in the rain as i can say it wont affect the reservoir levels due to all this rain!!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Water levels in many areas and resevoirs have depleted probably because of wfp.
When you think, unless your,re harvesting, a third probably goes down th drain!
Whatever goes down the drain is recycled, so it's not wasted at all.
Andy
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hi dazmond can you stop selling that [special] bottles water for a couple of weeks please ;D
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Just been on to Water Utilities said im a wfp user and you can off im not stoping using wfp and all the wfp users on clean it up will still be using wfp, it was the top man at Water Utilities so thats you all up the swanny ;D i only use a bucket every 2 days :)
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Just been on to Water Utilities said im a wfp user and you can off im not stoping using wfp and all the wfp users on clean it up will still be using wfp, it was the top man at Water Utilities so thats you all up the swanny ;D i only use a bucket every 2 days :)
you won't be saying that when I come round and kick your ladders from underneath your feet ;D
If us WFP users are going down then we are taking you bumper down with us ;D
Adders :D
P.S can you do my round for me when the ban comes in thanks ;D
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it wont efect business's! we still have to earn a living hosepipe ban or not! what about garnden centres? what about farmers fields with sprinklers?
what about car valeting bays? what about car washes? i can give you endless examples! if you want more just ask please!
thanks
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a hose pipe ban usually only affects domestic propertys, it has to be really bad to affect business
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a hose pipe ban usually only affects domestic propertys, it has to be really bad to affect business
Amen
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i do a few comercials so thats it then im ok
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we have this post every time we get a dry spell if the water companies can not save the water when its peeing down then thats there problem not mine :). if it dose affect us wfp users then we will have to see if thay ban the beer maker and coca cola aswell so i think its a load off cobblers :P
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I was told today by a custy that farmers around here in the south east cannot take any more water for irrigating the fields .
Any one tried using well water know of a custy with a well just not too sure how contaminated it might be as its next to a grave yard
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i think my conny roofs with hose on custys outside taps will have to be put off for a while though!! ::) ::) ::)
Why, you are using it for commercial reasons. You can use it but your customer couldn't.
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Water levels in many areas and resevoirs have depleted probably because of wfp.
When you think, unless your,re harvesting, a third probably goes down th drain!
Now expect the w/cs to come on and say their not a high user, their main business is traditional.
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because of wfp hhmmmmm! ;D
i think you will find its because of the dry spell weve had and
the water authorities are rubbish at retaining water.
saying that no hosepipe ban round here and we are expecting
heavy rain tonight ;)
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There was a man from the water board on the TV this morning, he was from "Knotty Ash" of Ken Dodd fame (for the older members!!) he told the reporter that they were meeting the leakage rates of 465 mega litres of water lost per day through damaged pipes etc and they repaired 350 leaks a week!!!
Astonishing figures.
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There was a man from the water board on the TV this morning, he was from "Knotty Ash" of Ken Dodd fame (for the older members!!) he told the reporter that they were meeting the leakage rates of 465 mega litres of water lost per day through damaged pipes etc and they repaired 350 leaks a week!!!
Astonishing figures.
especially when a mega litre is a million litres (I think!?) So thats 465 million litres wasted per day, thats what I call efficiant :o
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The argument about that companies i.e garden centers and coca-cola use thousands of liters of water is these companies pay business rates,
now how many of you water fed user have told your water company that your are using your homes for purifying water :-\ If you did tell your water company that you were using it for commercial use then you get hit big time.
So that means any use of a hose would be fround apon, so if you want use that argument that your using it for business then tell the water company and see what bills come in then.
Gordon
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it wont efect business's! we still have to earn a living hosepipe ban or not! what about garnden centres? what about farmers fields with sprinklers?
what about car valeting bays? what about car washes? i can give you endless examples! if you want more just ask please!
thanks
they shut car washes down last time so think again matey ;)
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i have to run a hosepipe down my stairs through a di then fill up my barrels as i live in a first floor flat!
is this illegal then from friday morning??
yep ,youll have to carry it down in a bucket, you will have to decide stairs or ladders ;)
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Does not affect commercial business untill it gets really bad.
Anyway i thought it was always raining up north.
normally is but since the snow in jan we have hardly had any rain,i have been straight up work wise since end of feb ;)
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it said on the radio that garden centres and car washes are excempt
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Look on the bright side save water bath with a friend... Wonder if Davina McCall wants a friend.....
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We seem to be OK in Derbyshire (Severn Trent Water) 81.6% overall with 2 of the Dewent res at just over 50%.
I think you only need to wory when a drought order comes in. That said it doesn't look good if customers cant use water and we do.
There was a hosepipe ban in my part of the southeast several years ago. One of my customers moaned saying that she didn't see why I could clean windows with WFP when she couldn't water her garden with a hose. I asked her if she would become bankrupt and homeless if she couldn't water her garden. She never moaned again :)
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it wont efect business's! we still have to earn a living hosepipe ban or not! what about garnden centres? what about farmers fields with sprinklers?
what about car valeting bays? what about car washes? i can give you endless examples! if you want more just ask please!
thanks
they shut car washes down last time so think again matey ;)
I thiunk the only company that did that was Sutton and East Surrey water (the ones that supply my business water). Even then, they only closed the car washes that didn't have a recycling unit.
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i do a few comercials so thats it then im ok
Its you who is the "commercial"
you are a business and not affected by a hosepipe ban.....
Until its at drought status, you can still work even then, but its complicated.
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i do a few comercials so thats it then im ok
Its you who is the "commercial"
you are a business and not affected by a hosepipe ban.....
Until its at drought status, you can still work even then, but its complicated.
Amen, that is all that needs to be said to be honest!
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From what I understand the hosepipe ban order is now called a drought order.
The argument WFP users can use is the fact that WFPer's use tap water as a raw product.
As we change the state of the water before we use it we are exempt.
Matt
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If anyone watched the news last night there is only two things that are banned, washin your car with a hose or wayterin your gareden with a hose
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Hi
rang united utillities today 0845 746 2200 told the lady we fill a tank in the van via a hosepipe then clean the windows via hose pipe and brush, and we dont pay commercial water rates she said because we are a bussinesss we can use it. i said some customers will say we should not be using it , but she said the call is now logged and we have permission and to tell them to ring this number if anyone complains :) :) :)
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Well done Dave ;D
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I cant help but think about trips abroar to Egypt where it pretty much never rains..... They desalinate the sea water and have spriklers running the whole time in hotels etc. Is this really beyond one of the richest coutries on the planet???
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Why would we want to desalinate the water?
We rarely have water usage restrictions in this country.
Are you prepared to pay the extra cost involved so you can water your garden throughout the summer when we would otherwise have a hose-pipe ban? You do realise that it is about 40-50 times more expensive to desalinate water and treat it compared to how we source our existing water; and then we'd end up just using it to flush turds round the u-bend. Still wanna pay for it?
The vast majority of Egypts water comes from the Nile, its the second biggest river in the world.
Hotels and resorts on the Red Sea do de-salinate their water, but the holiday makers pay for that (that'll be us then) not the locals.
It reminds me of the arguements some people made in the winter when we had 3 feet of snow and people were moaning that countries like Canada get 4 times as much snow as we got but they still manage to get about. Thats because they get snow of that depth every year and so are geared up for it. We could invest in that kind of kit (£350,000 snow ploughs) and use them once every 20 years.
Then who would be moaning?
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Fair enough!
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that told you ;D
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Why would we want to desalinate the water?
We rarely have water usage restrictions in this country.
Are you prepared to pay the extra cost involved so you can water your garden throughout the summer when we would otherwise have a hose-pipe ban? You do realise that it is about 40-50 times more expensive to desalinate water and treat it compared to how we source our existing water; and then we'd end up just using it to flush turds round the u-bend. Still wanna pay for it?
The vast majority of Egypts water comes from the Nile, its the second biggest river in the world.
Hotels and resorts on the Red Sea do de-salinate their water, but the holiday makers pay for that (that'll be us then) not the locals.
It reminds me of the arguements some people made in the winter when we had 3 feet of snow and people were moaning that countries like Canada get 4 times as much snow as we got but they still manage to get about. Thats because they get snow of that depth every year and so are geared up for it. We could invest in that kind of kit (£350,000 snow ploughs) and use them once every 20 years.
Then who would be moaning?
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youll be the one moaning if next winter you end up in a
ditch if there is no snow plough available to clear the road. ;D
i would happily pay for desalination and snow ploughs if needed
rather that than some pointless war in afghanistan thats costing
us the tax payer billions every year.
a country such as ourselves should be as prepared as possible
the couple of months of bad weather we had this year cost our
economy billions and if we did have a bad drought again money
to the country would be lost again.
small extra cost per person im happy with especially if we dont
have to put with constant posts about the winter and the possibility
of not working in the summer if it gets a little warm ;D