Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easycleanwindows on September 01, 2005, 03:39:55 pm
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www.nfmwgc.com/documents/waterfedpoles.doc (http://www.nfmwgc.com/documents/waterfedpoles.doc)
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man and they are safe??
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Ho ho!
You've just set wfp back a bit.
All these people marvelling at it... next time I'll drop a few quotes from that document. ;D
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So wfp is a health risk
"potential for the spread of legionella disease caused by poorly maintained filter systems."
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only if you dont maintain your filters etc but no different than going into a shop with air conditioning and them not servicing their installations.
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legionella disease
Have to point out, that it would need to take more than not changing the filters, there is a number of things, it would need a high tempture for this type of bacteria to form, so the best advice would be dont leve your un service vans in the heat of the summer, when you are on your hols for 2 weeks, again must point out there has been not one case of this from when WFP come on the market in 1997.
Andy
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Graham,
What's that other disease you can get from pure water? I can't remember? But I remember I offered you a vaccine that tasted like orange juice - cost £100 - but I guaranteed you'd never get it?
It's the one where you get it if you drink water contaminated with rat's urine. Whatsis name?
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pole man
that is what i have heard as well ,and the temperature has to be at a constant temperature for 2-3 days unless your equipment was in an air conditioned garage you should be ok.the temperature will fluctuate by night and day ??? ;D
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Graham,
What's that other disease you can get from pure water? I can't remember? But I remember I offered you a vaccine that tasted like orange juice - cost £100 - but I guaranteed you'd never get it?
It's the one where you get it if you drink water contaminated with rat's urine. Whatsis name?
weil disease would be my guess
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legionella disease
Have to point out, that it would need to take more than not changing the filters, there is a number of things, it would need a high tempture for this type of bacteria to form, so the best advice would be dont leve your un service vans in the heat of the summer, when you are on your hols for 2 weeks, again must point out there has been not one case of this from when WFP come on the market in 1997.
Andy
i store my water in 25 L barrels and even on the Hottest day, the water in them is COLD, i even get condensation on them, it was 28 outside according to my car temp gauge and the water was still cold, i mean cold aswell
it must take a fair bit of heat to heat up a block of 25 L water
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Graham,
What's that other disease you can get from pure water? I can't remember? But I remember I offered you a vaccine that tasted like orange juice - cost £100 - but I guaranteed you'd never get it?
It's the one where you get it if you drink water contaminated with rat's urine. Whatsis name?
weil disease would be my guess
correct matt old buddy old chum pronounced VIELS i beleive.... the wife gets it now and then ya know :D
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ATTENTION FELLOW CLEANERS (clears throte)
it appears i owe all the wfp guys a big big apology :-*...
in the thread "will wfp kill our trade" i said that the advent of the wfp will in turn make the job more accessable to the public and therefore we will see a large increase in window cleaners wich will influx a big price drop...
BUT! i was wrong i admit it... due to this new evidence there will be LESS window cleaners and prices will sore!!!! long live TRAD!!!! ;D ;D
P.s jut a friendly joke guys no mallace meant ;)
rest in peace ....... i mean ..... ahhh see ya latter :D
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Graham,
What's that other disease you can get from pure water? I can't remember? But I remember I offered you a vaccine that tasted like orange juice - cost £100 - but I guaranteed you'd never get it?
It's the one where you get it if you drink water contaminated with rat's urine. Whatsis name?
weil disease would be my guess
correct matt old buddy old chum pronounced VIELS i beleive.... the wife gets it now and then ya know :D
correct it is pronounced with a V
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damn english language i think we must have been drunk when the language was writen ;)
Graham.....
by the sounds of it you had weils disease and he sold you some orange juice for 100 smacks.... i think you were robbed ;D
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Rick, it should have been "Water-fed pole will kill our traders" ;D
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Rick
Would you EVERY owner a WFP? and no it's not a loaded question, just trying to see from your point of view, being a ladder man.
& before you say YES if you buy me one, that wont happen ;D
Andy
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Rick
Would you EVERY owner a WFP?
Should that say EVER OWN? ???
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Rick, it should have been "Water-fed pole will kill our traders" ;D
HAHAHA i like it... i like it...
poleman.......
thats a tough question... i said in the "will WFP kill our traders" thread :) im not in the WFP hate gang the WFP would not be as popular as it is now if it didnt clean windows, BUT i just have this thing in my head that says "how can you be sure you have cleaned it if you cannot see it" then there is the time thing, learning how to use the damn thing, i mean im hearing stories of people cleaning with WFP then fetching the ladder off the motor to get on this roof and do that.... it just seems a bit to much hasle pipes everwere and wot-not.... i know on the other end of the stick you guys have said you havent had to take the ladder off the car for like 3 weeks with the WFP...
ok ok you got me its doing the extra windows above conservatorys :( :'( :'( :-[ :-X i just could not handle that doing extra windows thing .....HAHAHA only kidding but no really it just seems to much hassle and the worry of loosing customers to it... it takes times to build up a GOOD round and im very funny about anything destroying that as it feeds me and my kids every night...
but no im not a WFP HATE member... i supose it just boils down to gutts... but i would rather have £££ :D
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I see ;)
I have been cleaning windows with a ladder for 16 years and thought the same as you, but would never go back, my business went thou the roof as we was twice as fast and took on lots more work.
I am sure your never say never?
maybe you should go out for the day with a WFP user local to you.
Andy
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maybe you should go out for the day with a WFP user local to you.
Andy
are you sugesting i doa days FREE labour????? OK OUT SIDE!!!! ;D ;D ;D
no your right i have never said never as you say and with the H&S laws getting tighter year by year it maybe inevatable that i have to take the plunge....
i supose ill just have to see what the future holds saying that davids got his up and running now so ill see what his take on it is, as i think hes close to the same boat as me...
but no i will never say that i will never use one as you just never know... ok thats enough "nevers" for now....
never known anything like this :)
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Well if you do go for it, I bet your come back & say WOW should of done that years ago ;D Tenner on the nose ;)
Just I have seen a lot of window cleaners change over and never heard of one go back.
"Everyone" Rick's getting a WFP :D
Andy
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LOL i carnt now, if i did i would be thrown off the forum after the TRAD/WFP thread ;D
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eeeeeeeerrrrrrr sorry poleman but i know of several who havnt stuck it out round here with wfp. Went back to ladders cos couldnt handle the time it took or the lost customers. It doesnt work on all windows which is the hassle i will have, but im going to get a trolley system soon cos i dont like thinking im not fitting in with the law. Hope my 17 yr round and my income doesnt suffer ::)
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can't see this being a problem its never warm enough for one and if you maintain your system you'll have nothing to worry about ;D
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eeeeeeeerrrrrrr sorry poleman but i know of several who havnt stuck it out round here with wfp. Went back to ladders cos couldnt handle the time it took or the lost customers. It doesnt work on all windows which is the hassle i will have, but im going to get a trolley system soon cos i dont like thinking im not fitting in with the law. Hope my 17 yr round and my income doesnt suffer ::)
Mr F
Change is good, just tell your customer, the EU are at it again,
there feel sorry for you ;D
Andy
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Change is good, just tell your customer, the EU are at it again,
there feel sorry for you ;D
Andy
What Andy says here is so important - it is the key to changing your customers over - tell 'em in writing before you do it - tell 'em when you do it and tell 'em firmly and politely you ain't going back.
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And tell them they get free frame cleaning as well, there love that ;D
Andy
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Rick, it should have been "Water-fed pole will kill our traders" ;D
HAHAHA i like it... i like it...
poleman.......
thats a tough question... i said in the "will WFP kill our traders" thread :) im not in the WFP hate gang the WFP would not be as popular as it is now if it didnt clean windows, BUT i just have this thing in my head that says "how can you be sure you have cleaned it if you cannot see it" then there is the time thing, learning how to use the d**n thing, i mean im hearing stories of people cleaning with WFP then fetching the ladder off the motor to get on this roof and do that.... it just seems a bit to much hasle pipes everwere and wot-not.... i know on the other end of the stick you guys have said you havent had to take the ladder off the car for like 3 weeks with the WFP...
ok ok you got me its doing the extra windows above conservatorys :( :'( :'( :-[ :-X i just could not handle that doing extra windows thing .....HAHAHA only kidding but no really it just seems to much hassle and the worry of loosing customers to it... it takes times to build up a GOOD round and im very funny about anything destroying that as it feeds me and my kids every night...
but no im not a WFP HATE member... i supose it just boils down to gutts... but i would rather have £££ :D
Your post is exactly how i felt before the changeover.
I`m not a 100% WFP worker. Probably 80% pole 20 trad.
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Having just started with WFP myself I got to thinking, if all the anti WFP guys are right then people will soon be beating a path to their door.
If traditional wc is so superior then they will be able to offer a premium service for top dollar prices. I wouldn't hold my breath though. DAI