Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on July 01, 2010, 10:07:03 pm
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ive only been wfp for 3 weeks and im not liking the pencils much!!
does fan jets do a better overall job??
and can you somehow convert the brushes i have to fan jets?
i have:
VIKAN RECTANGLE MONO/VIKAN SILL BRUSH
GARDINERS SUPALITE DUAL TRIM FLOCKED
GARDINERS SUPALITE DUAL TRIM MONO(awaiting delivery!)
BRODEX LIGHTWEIGHT STANDARD BRUSH(for short pole)
could i convert them all to fanjets without too much trouble?
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yes you can convert easy enough...wouldnt bother tho, theyre messy, spray all over place
No dont do any different job, just different rinsing aid
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does fan jets do a better overall job??
Yes!
You'll pinch yourself Daz when you rinse on hydrophobic glass with fan-jets compared to pencils ;D
Why didnt I use them before? ;) ;)
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Hiya dazmond mate ;)
I use fan jet's and they sound man ;)cover loads of the area,used right....but for the lads i have pencil jets in there brushes ;D
The thing is,personaly mate,i think the pencil are sound as you can see every drop ov water coming out & more accuracy(sh*t speller)
as with the fan jet's...they are a much wider spray,but i find if your not verry carefull you can have water everywere.....sometimes you might catch above a window with water & cause runns etc....
I have fan jet's in my own pole......as im a top window cleaner,but the lads on the other hand,not as carefull as me ;D i have them useing pencils....
I went for the fan jets a long time ago as i think less water useage...theres a tiny outlet hole in them,compared to a pencil jet........must use less water & you will cover a wider area when rinseing with a fan jet ;)
Ya will be able to convert that man....just a case ov a couple holes.....DONT make holes to big tho bud or you will have a knightmare keeping jets in....... :)
Hope this helps bud...but its wot ya prefer man..... ;)
I could think about sending you a couple ov fan jets to try out if you want mate...have to check first tho...not sure if i got spares???
But you will have to send them back to me tho mate... ;)
Take care mate & good luck whatever ya decide ;)
Kind regards
Justin ;)
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Daz, where are you?
I feel tempted to come over to yours and show you a long-term WFP setup. I'll come out with you and go round a few of your houses, do some together and you can see how it goes then once you have a bit of time under your belt. 8)
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does fan jets do a better overall job??
Yes!
You'll pinch yourself Daz when you rinse on hydrophobic glass with fan-jets compared to pencils ;D
Why didnt I use them before? ;) ;)
You have got to be having a laugh, pecils jets every time, fans sound good thats about it, they are a messy window cleaners dream water everywhere.
rinse on with pencil's job done ;)
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How effective are pencils on hydrophobic glass?
Theyre about as useful as a chocolate fire-guard. ;D ;D ;D ;D
You're welcome to them if thats what you think, keep up wonky-washers ;D
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fans fans fans , im a fan , if you have the brass pencils in your brushes , then you just got lucky , look on ebay , a seller is having them machined into a fan jet , my bro got some , £6 a set , just pull the pencils out and they will go in the old holes
Rich P @ F
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How effective are pencils on hydrophobic glass?
Theyre about as useful as a chocolate fire-guard. ;D ;D ;D ;D
You're welcome to them if thats what you think, keep up wonky-washers ;D
glass is glass if you still listen to that tripe your madder than I thought, I can pencil jets any window, I would lay money that a fan would make no difference on the way I rinse in regards to the result, maybe I am just blessed at using pencil jets :-\
Hand on heart fans are messy, add vents into it and they are a royal pain in the deriair..
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glass is glass if you still listen to that tripe your madder than I thought
Bit like your controversial opinion about rain then ;D ;D ;D
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Daz, just wash the feckin glass n stop thinking so bloody much, pencil jets, fan jets, 747 jets or F16 jets. Punters dont give a donkies.
Its all so bloody easy mate, loadsa h20, rinse and run away. Simple as cleanin windies really.
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ha!ha!i like that one ronnie!!!RINSE AND RUN AWAY!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yep that about sums up that one ;D
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glass is glass if you still listen to that tripe your madder than I thought
Bit like your controversial opinion about rain then ;D ;D ;D
thats not controversial, some people just dont like getting wet, thats quite simple!. Cleaning in the rain makes no difference to the finish, I don't have any problems at all doing it, my guys work they get paid they are happy. if I stopped in the rain they would not get paid the customers would not get clean windows and then everyone would moan at me. I keep everyone happy ;D lesson to be learnt there ;)
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thats not controversial, some people just dont like getting wet,
I think you'll find thats a controversial explanation in itself ;D
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thats not controversial, some people just dont like getting wet,
I think you'll find thats a controversial explanation in itself ;D
are you meaning some people are already wet ? :-\
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No, I meant, if thats what you think then you not all that clued up about why people dont clean in rain.
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Daz, just wash the feckin glass n stop thinking so bloody much, pencil jets, fan jets, 747 jets or F16 jets. Punters dont give a donkies.
Its all so bloody easy mate, loadsa h20, rinse and run away. Simple as cleanin windies really.
HERE HERE
Mate...pure water, pump, pole, window, scrub, rinse, money, bye
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Dazmond, Ronnie B has to run away, often without payment ;D
Ewan, My lifestyle costs a lot, believe me. There is not much I do workwise without payment me old Mcgreggor.
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I've used both and now only use fan jets - but only with a tap on my belt so that occasionally I can turn the flow down and they become light pencil jets and I can do a light rinse in a corner or under the top seal or where I cannot get the brush straight on to (over an extension or a conny or what-have-you.)
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Daz -
for what it's worth i changed over to fan jets a couple of months ago and will never go back to pencil jets
Fans are quicker to rinse with cover the glass better and really shift the crud in the corners.
personally have not had any trouble with water spraying all over the place - just on the glass and frames as it should be.
i reckon to have saved upto 3/4 hr per day from when using pencil jets.
Darran
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I take it that its best to rinse on with fans so to avoid over spray?
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For me I would say pencil jets ::) Fan ones spray more horizontal and In hot weather and on glass that beads I do not get the flush that I need to get the dirt off
Just my thoughts ::)
Adders
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Hiya dazmond mate ;)
I use fan jet's and they sound man ;)cover loads of the area,used right....but for the lads i have pencil jets in there brushes ;D
The thing is,personaly mate,i think the pencil are sound as you can see every drop ov water coming out & more accuracy(sh*t speller)
as with the fan jet's...they are a much wider spray,but i find if your not verry carefull you can have water everywere.....sometimes you might catch above a window with water & cause runns etc....
I have fan jet's in my own pole......as im a top window cleaner,but the lads on the other hand,not as carefull as me ;D i have them useing pencils....
I went for the fan jets a long time ago as i think less water useage...theres a tiny outlet hole in them,compared to a pencil jet........must use less water & you will cover a wider area when rinseing with a fan jet ;)
Ya will be able to convert that man....just a case ov a couple holes.....DONT make holes to big tho bud or you will have a knightmare keeping jets in....... :)
Hope this helps bud...but its wot ya prefer man..... ;)
I could think about sending you a couple ov fan jets to try out if you want mate...have to check first tho...not sure if i got spares???
But you will have to send them back to me tho mate... ;)
Take care mate & good luck whatever ya decide ;)
Kind regards
Justin ;)
Told ya daz mate....its what ya prefer bud ;)
Give them a go m8...lot ov guys swear by them ;)
Take care mate & good luck
Justin ;)
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I must admit its nice using fans on homo phobic glass but pencils all way for me.
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with the fan jets youn will run the risk of water catching the dirt on the way down as with pencil you can see where you are spraying
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Use both Daz
I have adapted all my brushes so that there are pencil jets about 3/4 inch in from the edge and fan jets about 2 inches further in. You need a bit more water flow but you work so much faster you use less water if you follow what I mean.
Works a treat for me and the lads.
Dan