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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on August 31, 2005, 05:28:57 pm

Title: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on August 31, 2005, 05:28:57 pm
wow

what a day i am aching all over we finished the main building inside and half the outside today , still got loads to do the windows are filthy when i place the brush on the window the water goes milky its so dirty . boy oh boy have we got a job and a half.


shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: 24-7 S C Services on August 31, 2005, 05:33:57 pm
Hi Shawn,

Glad to hear you have started it, here is a quick sugestion, wash the windows down first with just your pure water (not polishing it via the Di bottle), then give them a once over with the DI bottle attached, this will save your resin then.

Andrew
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: telboy on August 31, 2005, 06:12:53 pm
JUST ANOTHER SUGGESTION SHAWN

IF THERES A MAINS TAP OUTSIDE HOOK UP TO THERE
GIVE THE GLASS A GOOD WASHDOWN BEFORE YOU TRY YOUR PURE WATER

IT MAY PROVE QUICKER IN THE LONG RUN AND IT WILL SAVE YOUR PURE WATER

TELBOY ;)

ANGEL C/S
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: 24-7 S C Services on August 31, 2005, 06:33:05 pm
Good Sugestion Telboy
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on August 31, 2005, 08:17:08 pm
thats what i will do cos i went through 650 litres today... so that could cost me loads.

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: telboy on September 01, 2005, 01:53:28 pm

MY PLEASURE ;D

GLAD TO BE OF SOME HELP 

 TELBOY :) :) :)

ANGEL C/S
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Chris Cottrell on September 01, 2005, 11:14:09 pm
telboy

hi m8

correct me if im wrong but if you attach pole to outside tap first wont you just be putting "hard water" on windows first and making it harder for yourself to clean off when the sun has dried it off?

 ??? ??? :-\

Chris C
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: telboy on September 02, 2005, 12:44:47 pm
NO

THE HARD WATER YOU PUT ON DONT COMPARE TO THE CRAP YOU GET OFF

BY THE TIME YOU CLEAN PROPERLY THE HARD WATER WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED ANYWAY

TELBOY ;)

ANGEL C/S
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 02, 2005, 05:33:47 pm
hi all

i noticed today there see,s to be white runs on the windows i cleaned yesterday am i doing something wrong .. i rinsed each for about a minute or so . its hard to see when its three floors up . but went inside theclass room and they look dreadfull.

shawn

any help
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Justin Ruggles on September 02, 2005, 06:05:16 pm
Sounds like the paint has Oxidized and this will cause them milky runs and will not stop. Best way round it is to not touch the top part of the frame and clean the window IE glass only, no other way.

Good Luck

Justin
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 02, 2005, 09:13:33 pm
will be careful last day tomorow . i am so so tired did 10 hour days 3 days in a row and i am working tomorow again , am absolutely shattered . but the money is good .

only 1 prob they have turned round and said i dont get paid for 30 days , and i dont have the sort of finances to just not have money for that long , also have £400 wages to pay out .


shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 02, 2005, 09:48:45 pm
shawn

why are you paying £400 wages ??

most of my contracts are 30 days .so it is always best to have a float in the bank .or use a credit card .

dave
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 03, 2005, 05:39:44 pm
my brother in law is working with me and he gets 100 a day .


shawn :( :( :(
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 03, 2005, 06:29:11 pm
That is way to much .,
how can you make a profit on that you need at least 200% profit on labour ie if they are taking £120 a day for you you should pay no more than £40 gross. otherwise what is the point of employing somebody..
if someone gave me £100 a day without the hassle i would be very happy indeed

dave
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: daniel b on September 03, 2005, 08:11:30 pm
I would pay him £40 on week day and £55 on wk end,you would easily get somone to work for that,i know some wc payin there lads £30 a day.

Dan
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: thewindowcleaner1 on September 03, 2005, 10:34:00 pm
I pay my lad £7 p/hr clears £49 for a days work..by the sounds of it that seems to be a lot but I'd rather keep the same lad than keep traing new ones.

Pay peanuts get Monkeys

£100 per day a little steep though (is that because he's family?)
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 03, 2005, 10:43:45 pm

hi guys

the thing is he gets £10 hour with the other bloke he works for and i used to get the same and we have been doing 9/10 hours in a day but i have been doing my other customers after and before i sart so havent done too bad although i am exhausted .

the thing is he is a good cleaner and works hard , i think 100 is too much too but we agreed on it i have last day tomorow just half day , with the work ihave done this week i have made from tuesday

£1920 and £400 on labor so still made £1520i dont do that in a month.

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: daniel b on September 03, 2005, 10:45:52 pm
i would be happy with that shawn well done

Dan
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 03, 2005, 10:53:34 pm
only prob its all going on the old tax bill cos i havent saved cent

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 04:19:44 pm
finally finished..

thats just 1 of the buildings there are 4 more .

yippeeeeee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: daniel b on September 04, 2005, 04:24:55 pm
Theres a few spots on them ones above the door mate, only jokin, well done i bet your glad to get it done a,and least you have got the money for ya tax better then them chasin ya all the time, them  T%£$S are relentless.

Well done
Daniel
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 04:32:12 pm
they dont look brilliant but they are in a bad way. he was more than happy with the result.

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Paul Coleman on September 04, 2005, 04:36:24 pm

hi guys

the thing is he gets £10 hour with the other bloke he works for and i used to get the same and we have been doing 9/10 hours in a day but i have been doing my other customers after and before i sart so havent done too bad although i am exhausted .

the thing is he is a good cleaner and works hard , i think 100 is too much too but we agreed on it i have last day tomorow just half day , with the work ihave done this week i have made from tuesday

£1920 and £400 on labor so still made £1520i dont do that in a month.

shawn

So that's around £1500 after paying the other guy and you are doing around 50 hours work for it???
That's about £30 an hour turnover for your own labour/ equipment etc.  That sounds OK even allowing for the higher overheads of WFP over traditional.
Good job Shawn.
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 04:40:42 pm
yeah its not too bad i am pleased with it.

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: AuRavelling79 on September 04, 2005, 05:59:01 pm
So you should be mate - well done! And paying your bro-in-law £100 per day is a fair rate for both of you. So everyone should be happy! Result!

Now - see your contact asap and ask when (not if) he/she wants to schedule the next clean. When they set a date you know they're satisfied. If not find out why and sort out any niggles.

Then ask whether you send the invoice direct to accounts or to him/her first. And then explain you have wages to pay up front and is there any chance they can move it along quickly?

Say thank you and wait for the dosh! ;D
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 09:22:26 pm
just had a chat with him wants next clean in feb... and will sort cheque out for me this week.

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 04, 2005, 09:27:35 pm
Shawn

I normally bill schools direct and they normally pay in 2 weeks at the most .
schools more than anything i find is to be cleaned just before term starts .and if you can deliver that ,they are usually happy and leave you alone .i increase 15-20% a year and have no comebacks at all . i have been doing them for 6 years  ;) ;)

Dave
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 09:51:20 pm
you increase the price by 15 -20% a year.?

shawn
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: Moderator David@stives on September 04, 2005, 09:55:34 pm
yes and no probs ,never even been questioned as they normally change some windows every year or something .
Title: Re: first day at the school .
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on September 04, 2005, 09:58:43 pm
i will try that .. see how it goes. ha ha

shawn ;D ;D ;D