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Title: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on June 29, 2010, 08:01:38 pm
Hiya guy's....hope ya okay
Got my softner beads today........
Anyway guy's,i'v never used these before  :-[
So iv put my softner beads into my old di bottle & ran water through it....& guess what the first bit of water coming from vessel rose from 525(tap water) to 900ppm..EH!!! :o :o :o
i have left running for 5 minutes & it has dropped to 600ppm......
My tap water is only 525 @ the minute & coming from softner vessel is 600ppm.....
Is this normal guy's???
I dont expect the softner to drop ppm,as i'v bought it to protect the membrains a lil bit,as you can see i live in a hard water area,but on the other hand i didnt expect it to rise the ppm? ???
Is this right fella's  ???
Or does it just need a good flush with tap water???
Couldnt belive it guy's...
Just been back out,left it running for 15 mins now & ppm is 525 going in & 630ppm coming out...cannot get my head round this guy's
I have got another thread,but i thought this is a diffrent problem & the other thread might not get noticed 8)
Any help much appreciated lad's
Kindest regards
Justin ;)
www.clean-n-clear windows.co.uk  (http://www.clean-n-clear windows.co.uk)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on June 29, 2010, 10:26:51 pm
Hiya there guy's ;)
Here's the thread leadin up to gettin these beads......if anyones intrested ;D 8)

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=103832.0
Kindest regards
Justin ;)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on June 29, 2010, 10:39:01 pm
softener beads will do this,.. you need de-ionisation beads to purify water!
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: mci services on June 29, 2010, 10:44:24 pm
softener beads will do this,.. you need de-ionisation beads to purify water!

yes he knows that he needs to run through the ro then di he is just wondering why the softing resin rises the tds
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on June 29, 2010, 10:47:04 pm
Its normal,.. the tds rises but the impurities are swapped for ones that won't damage the membrane so its fine.
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: mci services on June 29, 2010, 11:03:44 pm
cheers nat there you go cnc i had no idea ;) and was waiting an answer patiently
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 10:21:29 am
softener beads will do this,.. you need de-ionisation beads to purify water!
Hiya fella's
Thank you guy's....stu is right nath mate..... ;)
But ya straightened that 1 out for me anyway man ;)

Thank you for ya help man....
so if my water going into ro is now 70ppm higher than normal........(because of softner beads)
 ro coming out @ 12 normaly ,its now going to be 82 ish,because of the extra ppm????

Sorry for all the Q's man,but i think if thats the case,wont i be just better not useing softening beads as ill end up spending more on resin to polish water off????

Thank you man & kind regards
Justin ;)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on July 01, 2010, 11:09:33 am
nope,.. the softener actually makes the RO run more efficiently so the TDS out should be similar to before. :)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 11:17:56 am
nope,.. the softener actually makes the RO run more efficiently so the TDS out should be similar to before. :)
Hiya mate
That sounds great to me nathan man...... ;)
i was thinking alsong them lines.... 8)...LOL..i didnt have a clue bud... ;D
Thank you for ya time m8,verry much appreciated dude...
Take care & kind regards nath
Justin ;)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 02:35:45 pm
Yep!!!!
Ye right nathen mate....set it all up now.....
tap-softner-prefilters-ro-tank ;)
Unbeliveable man....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Even set my draintap etc for my new 40/40 so its now 1ltr tank 2ltrs waste & its dropped the tds to 9ppm from 525+ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thank you so much fella......
Verry much appreciate it man..... ;)
Kindest regards
Justin ;)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on July 01, 2010, 02:49:07 pm
Why use a softener if it only helps the TDS drop by 3PPM?
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 04:11:39 pm
Hiya bud :)
To protect my membrains man....my water is realy hard....nealy 600ppm :o :o :o :o
so this softens the water a bit b4 membrains....stops membrain from getting clogged with limescale etc,wich is a big problem were i live,we need a new kettle every few weeks ;D
Ya might wanna think about 1 for yaself stu mate???
Kindest regards
Justin :)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Tom White on July 01, 2010, 04:16:56 pm
A TDS of nearly 600 must be like mud!
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 10:15:48 pm
A TDS of nearly 600 must be like mud!
Yeah,ya right mate....
Just think we drink this stuff dude.........PHEW!!!!
Should c the limescale round out taps etc :o :o :o
Missus cleans them,within a couple of months...theres a hard ring of  limescale round the end of fawcet(not sure if thats spelt right 8)) ;D
Yep mate,its bad..wot's it doing to our insides dude????????? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Kind regards dude
Justin ;)
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: Window Washers on July 01, 2010, 10:31:00 pm
A TDS of nearly 600 must be like mud!
I am thinking that you should call the water board as your tds so I am told should never be above 500 out of the tap...
Title: Re: WATER SOFTENING BEADS RISEING PPM...HELP!!!!
Post by: C-N-C on July 01, 2010, 10:41:41 pm
I dont know about that Window Washers mate 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-X :-X
might get my neighbours onto it tho...LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D

But ya right man.......i tell my family & they just sick ov hearing same old water s*it from me...no one listens man.... ;D

It is a disgrace tho man...come on.....they killing us fella :'(
I'v seen a few guys on here latley with 500+ppm from tap,who use to be 300+ :o :o :o
Big conspiricey going on if ya ask me man...with water boards trying to damage our systems ;D ;D ;D ;D
it does say,however 500+ on the back ov a handheld tds meter i have,is contaminated water :o :o :o :o
Take care man
Justin ;)