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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cannon on June 27, 2010, 02:26:52 pm

Title: car boot sales
Post by: cannon on June 27, 2010, 02:26:52 pm
Now this wont be for everyone but while wandering around my local car boot sale the other week i thought why not try and market my carpet cleaning here as its a big one attracting alot of people. In much the same way as the rac do, lay out my equipment in front of van, have a banner made, fully uniformed give out some leaflets and talk to prospective customers etc.

 Well my jaw hit the floor today at the car boot sale cos someone has beaten me to it!

I for one was VERY interested in his carpet cleaning so i spoke to him for a few mins and he certainly had the spiel, and at 25 pound per room INCLUDING stainguard he was drumming up quite a lot of interest.

 Maybe this is a good thing as its putting carpet cleaning in to peoples minds and when they get home and look for local companys they come across my new website :-\
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Mike Halliday on June 27, 2010, 02:40:11 pm
of course he was getting interest  at £25 ::) ::) thats the sort of price  people who go to carboot sales will pay for carpet cleaning, try charging a normal price and see how much interest you get

Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: jasonl on June 27, 2010, 02:52:59 pm
I did a few county shows in my chem dry days , the sales on the day of spotter (stain extinguisher)  more than paid for the stall costs ,  got lots of customers and an unknown quantity of brand awareness from it.
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Deep Cleaning Solutions on June 27, 2010, 05:16:45 pm
25 pound per room is expensive my way.
Mike Halliday......
"try charging a normal price and see how much interest you get",
what's a normal price?
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Carpet Dawg on June 27, 2010, 05:45:09 pm
Lets be honest, Do you really want to attract car boot sale customers? are they not the rug doctor brigade? maybe not all but a vast majority
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 27, 2010, 08:33:46 pm
Alot of car booters are bargain hunters they will look for the cheapest deal, selective marketing would be better IMO, if you charge 10 times more then you would blag an invite to Windsor castle when the Queen is in residence and Barack Obama and friends are round for cucumber sandwiches.

Shaun
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Carpet Dawg on June 27, 2010, 08:45:25 pm
I understand we clean for a living Mr Allan! and No, i dont think we a brain surgeons etc but £25 a room?? come on man!
I'd not even unload the van for that!

From the few bootsales i have been to and from what people have told me about thier selling experience at car boots, this is exactly the type of tight wad that you'll attract at car boot sales. Proper penny pintchers. But if that is your type of customer then good luck to you.
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Carpet Dawg on June 27, 2010, 08:49:59 pm
A bugger, he's deleted his post  ::) knew i should have used the quote function lol
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: SteveAllan on June 27, 2010, 09:50:53 pm
Yeah i took it off coz i knew the reaction it would get from the legends in their own minds brigade. Not all car booters are tight wads, you give a price, if they dont like it then you dont clean for them the same as when the price shopper rings you up - simples ::)
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 27, 2010, 10:06:26 pm
My parents are carbooters and they wouldn't pay for me to clean for them, infact their car boot friends ask me for quotes and they never use me, you can see by the look on their faces.

I get price shoppers like others do but if you get the correct message across in your marketing then you can convert most where as loads of price shoppers and not converting them is demoralising.

Shaun
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Ian Gourlay on June 28, 2010, 09:34:36 am
Unlike my hero Shuan i dodorooms for £25 if it isan empty property and I haveseveral rooms

But I would not ne happy doing aLounge dinner full of stuff for that.

At theweekend i had an instance where a guy wanted me todo traffic lanes in large lounge Dinning room complete hall stairs and landing large and bedroom traffic lanes for £50

He told me he had a qoute for £80 to do complete lounge plus the rest as desscribed.

Funny I remember going there last year and had same conversation
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Michael Smallwood on June 28, 2010, 10:21:43 am
Unlike my hero Shuan i dodorooms for £25 if it isan empty property and I haveseveral rooms

But I would not ne happy doing aLounge dinner full of stuff for that.

At theweekend i had an instance where a guy wanted me todo traffic lanes in large lounge Dinning room complete hall stairs and landing large and bedroom traffic lanes for £50

He told me he had a qoute for £80 to do complete lounge plus the rest as desscribed.

Funny I remember going there last year and had same conversation

Just like Ian, I will do additional rooms for lower amounts - as long as the overall job makes sense to do.

As for the same conversation as last year with the customer over price, I guess that some customers have their buying spiel as well rehershed as Shaun's sale pitch.  ;D
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Simon Gerrard on June 28, 2010, 04:33:58 pm
I think it's stretching credibility a bit to suppose that the people who attend car boot sales will only pay £25 per room  - but if Mr Halliday says that's the case then who are we to argue, Mr Halliday knows everything. ;D
In my book a lead is a lead no matter where it comes from.

Simon
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Mike Halliday on June 28, 2010, 05:05:27 pm
unlike you....you just think  think you know everything :D :D


'In my book a lead is a lead no matter where it comes from'. which book is that?   Simons Big Book of Crap..... which is what you normally quote from ;D


Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 28, 2010, 05:42:41 pm
Ian I do carpets for £25 if the measurements add upto that, I do not do single carpets for that though.

With the law of averages would you prefer a room fullof carboot style customer or a room full of Chemdry style customers?

Shaun
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Simon Gerrard on June 28, 2010, 07:12:50 pm
Mike,
I'm not going to get into an argument with you.  But to make a statement like;'thats the sort of price  people who go to carboot sales will pay for carpet cleaning' is just rubbish. Oh, don't tell me, you've been down there on a Sunday morning with your clipboard and flask of coffee  interviewing people about their buying habits and can therefore speak authoritatively on the subject, or is it yet more of your BS.

Simon
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: cleantom on June 28, 2010, 07:14:36 pm
Mike,
I'm not going to get into an argument with you.  But to make a statement like;'thats the sort of price  people who go to carboot sales will pay for carpet cleaning' is just rubbish. Oh, don't tell me, you've been down there on a Sunday morning with your clipboard and flask of coffee  interviewing people about their buying habits and can therefore speak authoritatively on the subject, or is it yet more of your BS.

Simon

I just love this forum   ;D
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Mike Halliday on June 28, 2010, 07:20:04 pm
Simon why would we argue, this is just a bit of fun :-* :-*

we all have an opinion, the fact that we don't all agree is what (as clean tom puts it) what we all love about this forum.

my comment was more based on the fact that he was getting lots of interest at £25 a room.
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 28, 2010, 07:23:53 pm
It's a bit like clash of the titans as both are renound for their outspoken views, wouldn't be like Simon to start an arguement on the airwaves though :o

I'm not taking sides of any one person but I agree with Mike on the socio demographics, I try and get from the customer his or her buying habbits with planned questions and I more or less know which customers I require and where to look for them.

Shaun
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Simon Gerrard on June 28, 2010, 07:52:38 pm
Me!!!! ::) Start and argument ??? Have an outspoken view. Nah!!! ;D

The fact is if you put yourself in the same place as a large gathering of members of the public and display your wares, whether it be carpet cleaning or double glazing - you WILL generate leads. Ok, some won't want to pay your price,  but surely that is no different to a percentage of the people who call you for a quote and end up booking your competitor because he was cheaper.

Simon
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Carpet Dawg on June 28, 2010, 08:03:07 pm
But they are all bargin hunters!! nothing wrong with that at all of course but if you want a "good" price for your service then i dont think this is the place to go...

If your a budget cleaner with bugdet prices i.e. 20 - 25 a single carpet then maybe this would be a good lead generator.

Just to give you an example. A friend of mine recently sold some items around the house at a carboot. And even on items labled £1, buyers where offering 30p!!! Its what these carbooters do! I cant see them taking too kindly at a premium service price..

Tony
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Mike Halliday on June 28, 2010, 08:04:49 pm
Ok display your wares but at least give them their best chance by showing them to people who are your target market,

 as an example (which is similar) I went to a classic car show last Wednesday evening it was held in the market place of my town. there was over 200 classic cars, some of them very valuable. although I didn't have a stand I went representing Furniture clinic(Hull) I handed out 10-15 cards to people who wanted leather upholstery repairs ( on their car interiors) if I had a trade stand i would have had even more interest.

the people attending this show and the exhibitor were a much better market than you would ever find at a car boot sale

so go were your market is.
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: pdale on June 28, 2010, 08:12:04 pm
Don't listen to all those who say that a car booter customer isn't worth having a go at, sounds like a bit of pessism to me, the only way to know for definate is to give it a go. Don't let that other guy who's already there put you off either.

 I have worked the car boots for a couple of businesses over the last 15 years or so. I have taken tens of £1,000's of orders for a window/conservatory firm owned by a friend. I also used to have my own fire surround business and had a little display on car boots, took hundreds of orders. My father is a wedding photographer and started out on the car boots for the first couple of years to get his name kn own. The foot flow of people there is second to none. I'm not a carpet cleaner, just browsing in this section really, but thinking of doing a regular car boot for drive ways and gutter cleaning.

Go for it, you'll be surprised at the reaction. For the sake of £7/£8 and a Sunday morning, you'll be inundated with work. You'll also be surprised at the punter, they're not all lower demographic as some here would have you believe. You're always going to get the bargain hunter, but on the end of the scale there are loads of people who go to them and some are willing to pay your prices.

The only downside you have with a car boot is bad weather spoils them, but with this weather what do you have to lose?
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Colin Day on June 28, 2010, 08:20:01 pm
It's just pathetic snobbery to think "All" car booters are tight wads!

I think it's a brilliant to idea to show off what you got and drum up some business.....
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Joe H on June 28, 2010, 08:29:31 pm

The only downside you have with a car boot is bad weather spoils them, but with this weather what do you have to lose?

Its just started raining here.  ;D
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: derek west on June 28, 2010, 08:32:00 pm
women love car boots, its a day out on a sunday. have a look in the carpark when you go, plenty of 4 be 4's, 08's 09's. a lot of peoplei know go just for a day out, far from penniless. put on a good show and you'll get work, let them trample an off cut on a board and then blast it with a truckmount, keeerrrrrchinggggggg. good idea if your struggling for leads.
he who dares.
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 28, 2010, 08:33:44 pm
Experience tells you that when you are speaking to a crowd then it's better to get all of their attention not just a few, selective marketing IMO the best way to use valuable time is better than a scatter gun approach, you will get some inquiries from all walks of life but actual bookings is something else.

Imagine trying to get a point across in a gypsy camp speaking the Queens English and then do the same thing speaking in Romany, you will get your point across the same but will get more people listening with the latter.

Get the most out of your time.

Shaun
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Simon Gerrard on June 28, 2010, 08:41:43 pm

Mike,
so go were your market is.

Yeah, a flea market. ;D ;D ;D

Simon
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Ian Gourlay on June 29, 2010, 11:50:15 am
Re Car Boots

If ou pitch at aGood Schools Car Boot Sale who draw kids from the right catchment area you  could be on a winner

If you pitch in a cattlemarket  not sure

I also understand Virgina Water etc has a better class of car boot sale than Hull ;D ;D

That said Beverley is upmarket
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Hilton on June 29, 2010, 12:40:12 pm
JUST GO AND TRY IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless you test something you will never know  ::)
Title: Re: car boot sales
Post by: Davo on July 02, 2010, 07:41:42 am
Don't listen to all those who say that a car booter customer isn't worth having a go at, sounds like a bit of pessism to me, the only way to know for definate is to give it a go. Don't let that other guy who's already there put you off either.

 I have worked the car boots for a couple of businesses over the last 15 years or so. I have taken tens of £1,000's of orders for a window/conservatory firm owned by a friend. I also used to have my own fire surround business and had a little display on car boots, took hundreds of orders. My father is a wedding photographer and started out on the car boots for the first couple of years to get his name kn own. The foot flow of people there is second to none. I'm not a carpet cleaner, just browsing in this section really, but thinking of doing a regular car boot for drive ways and gutter cleaning.

Go for it, you'll be surprised at the reaction. For the sake of £7/£8 and a Sunday morning, you'll be inundated with work. You'll also be surprised at the punter, they're not all lower demographic as some here would have you believe. You're always going to get the bargain hunter, but on the end of the scale there are loads of people who go to them and some are willing to pay your prices.

The only downside you have with a car boot is bad weather spoils them, but with this weather what do you have to lose?

Good post. I do very good business on car boots. Flash it right and you well get leads.


Mark