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Title: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: davids3511 on June 24, 2010, 11:40:00 pm
United utilities in the north west is gearing up for a hose pipe ban if we don't get rain in the next week or so which is making me nervous. Does anybody have any concrete info on how we will be affected?
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Nick Wareham on June 24, 2010, 11:46:17 pm
Hosepipe ban or no hosepipe ban, i will be working if it happens.

Somehow i dont think the bank will accept "hosepipe ban" as a valid reason for not paying my mortgage,.

Nothing and nobody will stop me earning a living, and I'll happily go to court if it comes to it.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: dazmond on June 24, 2010, 11:49:05 pm
i dont think it affects businesses as you treat the water for commercial purposes!!

ill be carrying on anyway as ive just got going wfp.sod going back to ladders!!!

im mainly cleaning wfp tops/trad bottoms for small domestic and fully wfp on big country houses and commercial.

i dont think we ll have to wait too long for some bad weather!!! ;D ;D

what you worrying about??

200-300L of water is nothing really compared to other businesses consumption!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: john tomkins on June 25, 2010, 08:15:52 am
Nothing and nobody will stop me earning a living, and I'll happily go to court if it comes to it.

Jailing you will stop you earning a living ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Klean07 on June 25, 2010, 08:16:25 am
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100624/tuk-hose-pipe-ban-looms-over-water-suppl-45dbed5.html
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 25, 2010, 08:29:17 am
Unbelieveable lack of investment!

Floods through Cockermouth last winter and they can't even build a decent dam and or water grid to feed the wettest area in England!

My MiL lives on Tenerife - they have no lakes or groundwater and over a million people to water, along with the tourists, tomatoes and bananas. They desalinate and conserve.

I despair!
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on June 25, 2010, 08:59:27 am
Hosepipe ban or no hosepipe ban, i will be working if it happens.

Somehow i dont think the bank will accept "hosepipe ban" as a valid reason for not paying my mortgage,.

Nothing and nobody will stop me earning a living, and I'll happily go to court if it comes to it.

i'll second that
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: tws on June 25, 2010, 12:32:12 pm
Unbelieveable lack of investment!

Floods through Cockermouth last winter and they can't even build a decent dam and or water grid to feed the wettest area in England!

My MiL lives on Tenerife - they have no lakes or groundwater and over a million people to water, along with the tourists, tomatoes and bananas. They desalinate and conserve.

I despair!
well said that man and the ban wont effect business use but your custies may have a few raised eyebrows  ::)  well done them lads only using a bucket full  ;D and if thay only know that about 90% of the water used to make your tds 000 went straight down the drain  :o
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: gary999 on June 25, 2010, 01:05:34 pm
90% :o must really have a crap ro and if you are di only
there is no waste water somebody seems to be a little
bit misinformed  :)
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: geefree on June 25, 2010, 06:31:11 pm
The pure from most ro units comes out only a little faster than the waste,

fill a litre bottle of pure and a litre bottle of waste..... aint  much difference in fill time.!
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: tws on June 25, 2010, 07:35:40 pm
i was thinking the over exaggeration would get a reaction ;D don't have a go at me im not the one wasting everyone's drinking water  ;D truth is its a ratio of about 4;1 waste to pure water but can change dependant on temp and tds of that area. im in the north west and have seen these reservoirs emptying since  dazmond changed over to wfp there was no talk of hose pipe bans before he got cocky and went for a 50ltr trolly ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Jack Wallace on June 25, 2010, 08:05:49 pm
i was thinking the over exaggeration would get a reaction ;D don't have a go at me im not the one wasting everyone's drinking water  ;D truth is its a ratio of about 4;1 waste to pure water but can change dependant on temp and tds of that area. im in the north west and have seen these reservoirs emptying since  dazmond changed over to wfp there was no talk of hose pipe bans before he got cocky and went for a 50ltr trolly ;D
So are you saying the reason everyone will have their hosepipes banned is down to Dazmond?

SHAME on you Dazmond!!!
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Dean Taberner on June 25, 2010, 08:16:16 pm
It wont happen to us,

Its like telling restaurants that they cant wash their dishes.

Dean
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Steve Weatherley on June 25, 2010, 08:34:04 pm
The water companies couldn't afford the lawsuits if they stopped us cleaning windows. Are they going to put a stop to all businesses who use water (i.e al of them) by saying non essential use of water is banned? How much water do breweries use in beer production? This is not essential use of water but they wouldn't be able to stop them from producing would they.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on June 25, 2010, 08:45:10 pm
put a cup of rain water in the tank and call it treated rain water  ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: WCE on June 25, 2010, 09:36:48 pm
If it went to court though it would be an interesting test case. H&S ruling and such like I reckon the WC would win.

Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: tacky on June 25, 2010, 10:05:47 pm
not in this country .unless u r on the dole
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Londoner on June 25, 2010, 10:08:02 pm
If the worst comes to the worst I'll just go back to trad. I've done it before and I can do it again.
Mind you It would be a real shock to the system. I've grown soft over the past few years and many of my present customers couldn't easily be done trad.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on June 25, 2010, 11:50:35 pm
always have a gud mix simples
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Dean Taberner on June 26, 2010, 12:21:53 am
It wunna happen 8)
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: wpclean on June 26, 2010, 12:53:40 am
Remember they stopped the car washes !
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: birdymiller on June 26, 2010, 05:35:29 am
Not much waste water from wfp! Your having a laugh gary911. Some of you wfp bigboy professional window cleaners use around 500 litres a day compared to my 3 bucket fulls cowboy trad cleaner. Maybe you could fill your tanks, trolleys and backpacks half full with concrete so you can show your custies that you dont use that much water.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 26, 2010, 07:36:14 am
Not much waste water from wfp! Your having a laugh gary911. Some of you wfp bigboy professional window cleaners use around 500 litres a day compared to my 3 bucket fulls cowboy trad cleaner. Maybe you could fill your tanks, trolleys and backpacks half full with concrete so you can show your custies that you dont use that much water.

Nice comeback birdy! ;D

I think the "resistance" will come form Doris and her friends.

You know the type - a hosepipe ban will be a wonderful excuse for her to cancel with a "not this time" and she will just say that she doesn't want to have water wasted on her windows. If you press the point she will say she can't have all that water wasted when her neighbours are watching.

Responses:-

"I use rainwater that I've harvested previously" (Just about true - the water started out as rain and I harvested it by turning on a tap after it had been through a massive treatment works)

A sign on your van saying "The water in this vehicle has been collected from Wales where there is no hosepipe ban." (Sort of true as Bristol water sometimes take water from the Severn which of course started out over Wales! ;D)

Also I'd be prepared to do bottoms only - trad - if really pushed.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: LQQK on June 26, 2010, 07:58:59 am


Also I'd be prepared to do bottoms only - trad - if really pushed.

Thats what I was thinking.

Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: elite mike on June 26, 2010, 08:06:36 am
this time next week we will be up to are  arses in water

dont panic ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: cat9921 on June 26, 2010, 12:45:58 pm
Posts like this make me sick  >:( First if the water company is so concerned about the wasting of drinking water then why not fix all those leaks I see, There is one by my grandads it has been gushing out for the past month  :o ( the water not my grandad )

Second trad window cleaners waste more water than we do  ::) When we turn on the R.Os the water is taken from the resevouirs some is sent back to be cleaned the other is to clean windows and do a better job than those scraty taty trad guys ....... But a trad winodw cleaner will just fill his bucket up so less water is taken from resevouirs and the sun evapourates it WHAT A WASTE and they risk falling off a ladder..

If trad window cleaners can carry on when ladders are baned then so can we carry on if there is a hose pipe ban  ;D

Every time I see a trad window cleaner I think of this







(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/cat9921/Cowboy.jpg)



So we have water on this planet and thanks to the proper window cleaners ( WFPs only ) it will not just be in a resevouir evapourating and doing no good

Adders  ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 26, 2010, 12:51:44 pm
And those traddies mix it with detergent which the treatment works uses "millions" (1) of litres to wash out.


(1) Slight exaggeration for effect there BTW ;D.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: bumper on June 26, 2010, 12:56:31 pm
i use a bucket every otherday anybody can use a bog brush you just stand ther like a Virginia standing in the road urinating about ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: birdymiller on June 26, 2010, 01:34:23 pm
cat9921(is this your date of birth?) how come if ladders are banned they still sell them in diy shops.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: cat9921 on June 26, 2010, 03:40:58 pm
cat9921(is this your date of birth?) how come if ladders are banned they still sell them in diy shops.

They are  sold as memorabilia  ;D

Adders
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: martinsadie on June 26, 2010, 04:10:51 pm

Also I'd be prepared to do bottoms only - trad - if really pushed.
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cant weigh you up Malc,you got the ladder out in winter
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Rob.Hall on June 26, 2010, 08:32:56 pm
If their was a ban I wonder what would happen if a wfp w/c went back to trad and fell off the ladder causing serious injury.
Could their be a case for taking the water comp to court for loss of earnings for forcing him to conduct his  business in a dangerous manner to provide a living?
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 26, 2010, 08:35:58 pm

Also I'd be prepared to do bottoms only - trad - if really pushed.
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cant weigh you up Malc,you got the ladder out in winter

Where'd you get that from Stan?   ???
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2010, 10:27:09 pm
I think you are all mad
as your using the water for buissness the hose pipe ban doesnt include you
also ladders are banned rubbish again please they are not banned end off its funny you see thease big vans about saying ladderless window cleaning because of the so called ban but why you still got them on your roof then idiots   grow up

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: davids3511 on June 26, 2010, 11:49:43 pm
I think you are all mad
as your using the water for buissness the hose pipe ban doesnt include you
Ok, but how many of us have rang the water company and told them we are using it for business and paid the applicable (higher) rate? We can't have it both ways, pay for the water like a house holder but claim to be a business when it looks like the house holder will be restricted.

All those relying on the fact yor are a busiess, how many have actually registered as a business user with the water company?
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: martinsadie on June 27, 2010, 02:37:21 pm

Also I'd be prepared to do bottoms only - trad - if really pushed.
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cant weigh you up Malc,you got the ladder out in winter

Where'd you get that from Stan?   ???
back in jan your post
I was pointing out that on Monday when I went back to trad for the 4 hrs I worked I did £75;
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Tim82 on June 27, 2010, 06:57:03 pm
i was thinking the over exaggeration would get a reaction ;D don't have a go at me im not the one wasting everyone's drinking water  ;D truth is its a ratio of about 4;1 waste to pure water but can change dependant on temp and tds of that area. im in the north west and have seen these reservoirs emptying since  dazmond changed over to wfp there was no talk of hose pipe bans before he got cocky and went for a 50ltr trolly ;D

LOL!!!
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 28, 2010, 08:54:43 pm
I think you are all mad
as your using the water for buissness the hose pipe ban doesnt include you
Ok, but how many of us have rang the water company and told them we are using it for business and paid the applicable (higher) rate? We can't have it both ways, pay for the water like a house holder but claim to be a business when it looks like the house holder will be restricted.

All those relying on the fact yor are a busiess, how many have actually registered as a business user with the water company?



This is a very valid point, I am lucky I work from a commercial unit so all my water, electric usage is billed to the business.


Matt
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: gary999 on June 29, 2010, 07:33:01 am
Not much waste water from wfp! Your having a laugh gary911. Some of you wfp bigboy professional window cleaners use around 500 litres a day compared to my 3 bucket fulls cowboy trad cleaner. Maybe you could fill your tanks, trolleys and backpacks half full with concrete so you can show your custies that you dont use that much water.

bloody hell dont wet yourself with your excitement ;D

if your on about what i said mate iwas on about the production of
water which somebody mentioned 90% waste ::)

i actually use around 150 ltrs a day im di only so i dont produce
waste that gets flushed away and i tend to follow the jeff brimble
train of thought of conserving as much water as possible which
includes rain harvesting and i dont spray water around more than
a ltr a min. not only best use of your time is money but also the production
of water ,less i pay out more money for me

i tend to think i can thread an eye of an needle rather than smash
a nut with a hammer.i aint no splash and dash merchant but hey
thats because im talented 8)

Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 29, 2010, 07:38:29 am
If their was a ban I wonder what would happen if a wfp w/c went back to trad and fell off the ladder causing serious injury.
Could their be a case for taking the water comp to court for loss of earnings for forcing him to conduct his  business in a dangerous manner to provide a living?

Nothing would happen because the ban is on sourcing the water from an area where WFP was banned.  They say you can import it from another water company area.
Title: Re: Hosepipe ban (again)
Post by: Steve_c on June 29, 2010, 08:27:04 am
Oh No it's raining................. Will it ever stop  ;D. Carry on Stay calm