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Title: Builders Clean
Post by: anthony eton on June 17, 2010, 10:48:00 pm
Hi everyone,can anyone tell me the best way to remove cement splashes from new windows.I have got a big victorian house with a new extension to do tomorrow and want to get it right as could mean more work from the customer recommendation.I am just starting up and only have ten customers so far and do not want to lose any by making a bad mistake.All advice appreciated.Regards Ant.
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on June 17, 2010, 11:18:47 pm
 you could use a nice new scrapper wet the splashes first
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: anthony eton on June 18, 2010, 12:08:32 am
Thanks Gav,I do have a new scraper,just a bit nervous to use it on these new windows ,but they are quite bad ,God knows what the builder was up to,how much more should I charge for a builders clean? cheers,Ant.
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: Ste M on June 18, 2010, 12:15:18 am
as gav says thuogh make sure you wet the area before you scrape it, you run the risk of scratching it if you scrape it dry
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: anthony eton on June 18, 2010, 12:20:25 am
Thanks Ste m, 8)
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: AJ on June 18, 2010, 05:46:15 am
If you use a limescale remover on the cement first it softens it up by beaking down the lime in it. Also, use the scraper in one direction only. If you go forwards and backwards with it, the bits of grit get under the blade and scratch the glass. If possible get cust to sign a scratch waiver.

Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: bobby p on June 18, 2010, 06:38:15 am
do just 1 window and then stand back and HAVE a real good look at it .  IF you see etching marks on the glass from the lime back away and refuse to do the job. 

 if i hear the very word "builder" im not interested in those windows . theres far far more of the regular work ,play safe
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: stephen.b1 on June 18, 2010, 06:57:57 am
my advice is to you i have done thousands of builders cleans and if you worked for me i wouldnt let you near glass with cement on for the first six months and when i thought you were trained enough i would stand over you until i was confident i could leave you to carry on

this isnt a job for a newbie sorry, leave it alone walk away and tackle this sort of job when you have more experiance
hear is one i did earlier
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: Londoner on June 18, 2010, 07:44:09 am
Don't touch it, don't go anywhere near it. You will scratch the glass as sure as heck. Then you will get the blame for everything. Its only one job, walk away.

You need to develop a feel for cement when you are scraping it off to know how far you can go. Lots of water with detergent, leave it to soak then go gently. But I wouldn't start out learning on a big job like that.

Builders cleans can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: R W C™ on June 18, 2010, 03:58:33 pm
I totally agree, as a newbie id turn this job down as if something goes wrong it could knock you back a bit......
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: anthony eton on June 26, 2010, 12:37:24 pm
Just want to say thanks to everybody for your advice I shall give all your points careful consideration before I decide,cheeres everyone. Ant. 8)
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: Nathanael Jones on June 26, 2010, 02:45:27 pm
Don't do it mate. When you don't know what you are doing you will almost certainly scratch the glass & could be left with a bill for £1000's to replace the damage units.
Even the experienced guys get a waiver signed before they do this kind of work explaining how fabrication debris cause damage & absolving tem of the consequences of cleaning.
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: david watts on June 26, 2010, 06:40:18 pm
makes you wonder why they dont mask the windows up lot easyer
all round
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: mlscontractcleaner on June 26, 2010, 09:50:27 pm
DOOM MONGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How is this guy supposed to learn his job and build his business if he turns down every job that looks a bit tricky ??? ??? ???

Take the job mate; charge a LOT more than you would for a normal clean 'cause it'll take a long time and take your time. Sharp scrapers and plenty of soapy water is the way forward.

Twenty years experience says that a builders clean is no more difficult than window cleaning; harder work yes but not difficult ::)
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: windolene on June 26, 2010, 10:15:51 pm
Hi,

I have used 0000 grade wire wool with no scratching for builders cleans but when they not covered in cement. Tesco type Brillo pads are great .

Kevin WINDOLENE
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: phil newton on June 26, 2010, 10:38:19 pm
id stand back down tools point at the brickie and blame him
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: baxey cleaning services on June 28, 2010, 09:04:53 pm
mix some brick acid with water and some tvr foam and spry it on this will melt it but make sure you wash of well
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: awcs on June 28, 2010, 10:08:35 pm
by the look of that window use a hammer and chisel. Or dynamite
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Post by: e newlands on June 28, 2010, 10:14:25 pm
soapy water whilst youll working elsewhere keep applying  loads with a sponge totally soaking the area dab in on dont rub across the panes most of the morter should debond
then use a scraper with nice new blade only run it wet in one direction
if in doubt or worried do one as a sample and bring the state of the windows to the site agents attention its bad housekeeping on both the brickie and the agent
check for scratching after youve done the sample---
give it A go glass is more resiliant than you think
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on June 28, 2010, 11:09:06 pm
use a lime scale remover solution the loads of fairey liquid and a good scraper not the ones you pick up at a pound shop unger do a good one theres a rough and smouth side to these but point out to the custie there probably will be a few scratches due to the building work mate how much did you quote on this job!!! 8)
Title: Re: Builders Clean
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 29, 2010, 05:17:30 pm
Anthony,

The fifth post on the thread http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=102718.0 gives links to some very useful documents that you might consider providing before carrying out any work.

V