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Title: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on June 17, 2010, 02:35:32 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: darren clarke on June 17, 2010, 02:44:27 pm
one wash with wfp shoudnt change a cars colour,  if it was wfp the rest of the car should change as well
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: LQQK on June 17, 2010, 03:34:39 pm
I hope you dont use the same brush you use on cars on windows as well.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on June 17, 2010, 03:36:23 pm
The damage she is speaking about is sun bleach. Red us the worst colour for sun bleaching and a bluebird is going to suffer as it's an old car.

However fairy isn't made for washing cars, if your going to use solutions on cars make sure that they are made for cars.

Simon
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: SB Cleaning on June 17, 2010, 03:41:30 pm
Nissan Bluebird!!

I aint seen one on the roads for ages!!

She got to be trying it on mate ;D
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: LWC on June 17, 2010, 03:59:53 pm
Ask her does it change colour when it rains. Say sorry but thats nothing to do with you fella.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: bobby p on June 17, 2010, 04:15:12 pm
never wash a car in hot sun.  also never volunteer to wash a car that hasnt been washed for a long time , otherwise you will just loosen the crud film .

 you probably can t-cut the whole car ,this will take you hours   but will still be far cheaper than a re-spray !
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on June 17, 2010, 04:36:03 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 17, 2010, 05:04:22 pm
Hot sun! Washing cars!

Sorry but they dont mix. My last van was blue, nicely T-cut and shiny and I washed it in hot sun and the soap and water acted as some sort of magnifying glass and I ended up with a van with permanent 'soap shadow'.

You could well be at fault, it is one reason most hand car washers have a canopy. And why most of us stick to what we know!
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on June 17, 2010, 05:09:53 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Scrimble on June 17, 2010, 05:23:06 pm
seriously is this a joke? i cant believe people are washing cars with wfp brushes and using T-cut still.

Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: cat9921 on June 17, 2010, 05:23:51 pm
Go round and say that your are deeply sorry, Not for what you have been accused of but the fact that she is a woman  ;D


Adders
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: LQQK on June 17, 2010, 05:27:12 pm


Steptoes - why not use the same brush on windows as cars?  Have I ruined my brush?

There'll be oil on car wheels, off the road and diesel/petrol. Wouldn't want that on a WFP brush. Wheels are usually the dirtiest part of a car that gets cleaned, I'd say easy to contaminate a brush that way.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: drevitt on June 17, 2010, 05:29:57 pm
it is not the wfp that did it, can you remember a few years ago flash bought out an attachment to put n the end of a hose to rinse off cars when washed, i think this was just a resin container (same as wfp) so no way will it have been that. tell her you have done many cars before and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on June 17, 2010, 05:42:42 pm
I wash my van weekly with wfp, not the same brush as i use for windows, plus don't use it on the wheels, it comes up a treat every time when rinsed off. Saves drying with a chamois leather

As for washing in direct sun light, a friend comes and valets my wifes car every now and again, IN DIRECT SUN LIGHT SOMETIMES,  never had a problem but he doesn't use fairy

Darren 
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: LQQK on June 17, 2010, 05:54:48 pm
If you go round there and pour 5 litres of petrol in the passenger side window then throw a match inside she'll have been proved correct 
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: JSMC on June 17, 2010, 05:56:10 pm
red paint is famous for that. also trying to match the colour is very hard as it's metameric. we use dto have bothe rwith reds in the tannery when spraying leather
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Darranvps on June 17, 2010, 05:57:37 pm
I did my first car yesterday with wfp pure water rinse off and now the woman concerned has rung up and says I have 'burnt' her car  :o :o :o

So I went around and sure enough, the pain over the WHOLE car has gone a funny shade of red - more like a dark pink, but the ing is I can't really remember what colour it was before, I just had it down as reddish.

Anyway, the paint odes look funny and I don't really know if it was like this b4 or not.  What should I do? She is making a right fuss now about getting it re-sprayed (it's a Nissan Bluebird, can't remember the plate year) and now I wish I hadn't washed any effing car with wfp!  >:( :( :( :(

And no, I didn't put anything in the water, just some fairy for the wheels that were black.

Tell her to polish it with Turtle Wax and it will be better than new ;D
We had a similar problem with a red car in Bulgaria at our car wash - we charged sixty pounds to polish it by hand with Turtle Wax and it shone like a Ferrari
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: John Walker on June 17, 2010, 06:13:06 pm

i agree about red cars being a problem.  I had a red merc and used the special red polish which brought it up nicely over a period of months (cheaper than a re-spray).  I left it parked outside my office and one of my drivers decided to do me a favour and used a pressure washer on it.  It took all the months of polish off it and it looked just like the description of the 'burnt' car on this thread.  So...  it could be that it's just a case of polish being  stripped off.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: cleewindows on June 17, 2010, 07:00:34 pm
thought you had sold up m8????
it is not the wfp that did it, can you remember a few years ago flash bought out an attachment to put n the end of a hose to rinse off cars when washed, i think this was just a resin container (same as wfp) so no way will it have been that. tell her you have done many cars before and never had a problem.

Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: chopsie on June 17, 2010, 07:07:46 pm
Told you it was like battery acid, and killed plants in a 100 mile radius  ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: jarvy on June 17, 2010, 07:33:40 pm
I cleaned my caravan with pure water,and it strips the old paint off! There was a stream of what looked like spilt milk going down the road. Thing is its an old caravan with old paint,does react funny so who knows what it could do with old car paint.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steve Weatherley on June 17, 2010, 09:16:57 pm
It sounds like your customer may well be trying it on but ask yourself this - Are you a window cleaner or a car valeter? I would stick to windows. Also does your insurance cover you to clean cars? It's a risk not worth taking.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: leegooner on June 17, 2010, 09:47:29 pm
only use pure water on metallic paintwork,
over time it will take the finish of non metallic
paintwork
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: richard jagger on June 17, 2010, 10:33:33 pm
Pure water is used by valett business and is a s pure rain the white one would is oxidised paint of an old car and red is the one that will oxidise the most as it is red oxide in the old paints that come off most with blus been the least. My Dad was a car paint expert and he always said never buy ared car.When you wash a car that you havew not washed for years the loose oxidises top coat that will come off. The best thing is and I would not fix it is toclean with a paint inpregnated polish.DEf not t cut as it migt take off all the thin top coat.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Elginn on June 17, 2010, 11:35:07 pm
Been washing my car for 4 years with pure water and its done nothing to my paint work, tell her to take a hike.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: jouk45 on June 17, 2010, 11:43:00 pm
i washed a customers red car today in the hot burning sun with wfp, no problems at all,
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Daniel Watson on June 18, 2010, 08:44:19 am
find a red nissan over 10 yrs old and the bonnet will be pink.

the vannette was awful for it.

any red proton will do the same.

its an old car sprayed with dated paint.

i wouldnt worry.

its pure water....just like rain. no bleach, no detergents, nothing harmful
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: drevitt on June 18, 2010, 03:39:52 pm
thought you had sold up m8????
it is not the wfp that did it, can you remember a few years ago flash bought out an attachment to put n the end of a hose to rinse off cars when washed, i think this was just a resin container (same as wfp) so no way will it have been that. tell her you have done many cars before and never had a problem.


sold up but kept enough to keep me going on a saturday to make a bit extra money for the baby fund!
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Jack Wallace on June 18, 2010, 03:52:55 pm
Knock on her door, when she answers throw a bucket of pure on her.
Then ask if she needs treatment for the burns  ;D
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: formb on June 18, 2010, 05:02:19 pm
The jetwash at my local Morrisons has a rinse setting which is purified water.

No Chuffer moaning at them about "burnie water"
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: cleewindows on June 19, 2010, 07:25:31 pm
Nice one m8 ;D
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Londoner on June 20, 2010, 08:37:18 am
I clean my van with pure water all the time. Its only water, same as rain but you mustn't ever use washing up liquid on a car.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on June 20, 2010, 08:52:15 am
 ;)
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: will77 on June 20, 2010, 11:52:30 am
the colour change can easily be explained. it was dirty red and now it is clean red. obviously it will look different.
Title: Re: Customer has accused me of burning her car
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on June 20, 2010, 05:57:39 pm
 ;)