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Title: growing too fast?
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on June 09, 2010, 10:24:37 am
finally hit the 300 customers 'mark' (the last time i checked it was 215 a few weeks ago)

been lashing it down with rain the past few days, and a couple of days last week, and family bereavement, has left me right behind.

i've got about 4 days work to do, in 2 days  ;D

cant work tommorow [family again] so that leaves me friday, & saturday, if the weathers ok.

im away on holiday monday - friday. which is going to be a well deserved break.

i'll be looking forward to getting back, and having a real busy week  ;D
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on June 09, 2010, 10:26:51 am
also, i had a target for august..... to be turning over a certain amount per annum. and i have just acheived this.. a month or so early ;D ;D
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Sseddon on June 09, 2010, 10:44:30 am
How did you achieve your target? Did you canvass or leaflet?
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: chopsie on June 09, 2010, 11:00:37 am
well done ryan. I have over 160 customers now, and I have not been doing a great deal to get them after i got just over a 100, Just keep ringing from old flyers i dropped, or recommendations etc. I went away last week and have 82 jobs to do this week (do not work tuesdays) and its peeing down now  :( How many can you do in a day? are you trad or wfp? I really need to get faster. If the work is there i often clear £100 in a day, but thats not every day as i don't have enough work. Probably earn just over minimum wage if i average it out over 6 weeks. If i could do all those 82 this week thats bang on £900. But there is no way i could do it at my present speed  :'(  I know people do not like earnings posts, but i don't give a monkeys  :D I am not exactly bragging about earning just over minimum wage  :-[
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on June 09, 2010, 11:24:24 am
Ryan Lee... good on you

Chopsie... why not condense those customers down and get out knocking / leafleting
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: chopsie on June 09, 2010, 11:31:49 am
what do you mean by condense down? try to get them in same street etc?
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Ian101 on June 09, 2010, 11:47:51 am
Well done M8  ;D ... Im just doing my last day in employment today (skiving on here  ;) ) ... taken a weeks holiday then getting stuck in .... how long did it take you to hit 300 ?? as thats the sort of figure Im after
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: dazmond on June 09, 2010, 12:19:28 pm
you should get quicker chopsie over time and pick up more work around the work your already doing!

i regularly hit the £150 per day trad and higher some days but im well est and have a lot of very compact work

when i get my wfp stuff(should be friday now!) after the first cleans im hoping itll be more like £170-£200+ per day on average. 

ill be canvassing some of the bigger awkward properties near my work and also ill be putting some of my prices up again on houses im doing extra windows(skylights/above connys etc)plus the glass conny roof cleans etc.

keep at it and keep canvassing guys! ;) ;D ;D


best wishes

dazmond
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: chopsie on June 09, 2010, 12:33:52 pm
yeh Dazmond i know i will get quicker (or i hope so!), I am faster now than when i started, I am trying WFP upstairs and trad downstairs to try and save water for now, Also i think the customers will appreciate it. I will also be pretty good at trad come winter (I hope  :P ) So i will be able to just trad downstairs if we have a big freeze again and so keep some money coming in and custies happy. Also I feel a great sense of satisfaction when i am tradding, You actually see the end results(and know they are ok) compared to WFP, Also you appreciate there is a skill to tradding. I think you have gone down the right route with your pure freedom trolley, There are many times on my round where i wish i had a trolley, metres of hose dragging about is a nightmare at times, there is umpteen things to catch on, and this time of year there is flowers etc to be careful of. I have an ongoing project making a trolley out of a sack truck with the pump etc out of my split backpack, hopefully that will help me out. Trouble is cash to do it, and know how, DIY has never been my strong point  ::)  will get there one day.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: dazmond on June 09, 2010, 12:49:18 pm
chopsie ive ordered the 50 L TROLLEY.i know it will be quite heavy but less time fillin up from van and ill also trad some bottom windows.coupled with extension hose so im not moving the trolley too much i think itll be ideal for all my very compact work(often hard to park van as well!).

good luck mate and stick at it! ;) ;)


dazmond
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on June 09, 2010, 02:14:35 pm
well done ryan. I have over 160 customers now, and I have not been doing a great deal to get them after i got just over a 100, Just keep ringing from old flyers i dropped, or recommendations etc. I went away last week and have 82 jobs to do this week (do not work tuesdays) and its peeing down now  :( How many can you do in a day? are you trad or wfp? I really need to get faster. If the work is there i often clear £100 in a day, but thats not every day as i don't have enough work. Probably earn just over minimum wage if i average it out over 6 weeks. If i could do all those 82 this week thats bang on £900. But there is no way i could do it at my present speed  :'(  I know people do not like earnings posts, but i don't give a monkeys  :D I am not exactly bragging about earning just over minimum wage  :-[

its took since august 2009.  how many can get done in a day depends on the round thats being worked.... some days its about 50, nice compact round, and others it can be 15 (spread out country houses)

keept at it mate, you'll pick up speed without even noticing it. You'll be constantly learning how to go faster without compromising the quality of your work.

I do everything trad.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: weetot on June 09, 2010, 03:17:07 pm
also, i had a target for august..... to be turning over a certain amount per annum. and i have just acheived this.. a month or so early ;D ;D

Well done mate, but just remember you've got to contend with the winter, and still do the same amount of work. :D

Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Sseddon on June 09, 2010, 03:44:02 pm
Well done. That's brilliant.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Dave Willis on June 09, 2010, 04:35:36 pm
50 a day Ryan? Well that's your 300 finished in your first week. What do you do the rest of the month?
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: tom2009 on June 09, 2010, 06:10:58 pm
50 a day Ryan? Well that's your 300 finished in your first week. What do you do the rest of the month?
:o :o
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: lee_dewing on June 09, 2010, 06:12:32 pm
that's what i thought dave ;D
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: woody1 on June 09, 2010, 06:48:41 pm
Ryan its all well an good getting lots of work but if the price is low its a pointless task
i price high so i dont have to work like a dog to make end meat
And 50 a day behave mate not a chance unless they only have 3 windows mate
people are not stupid on this forum they have heard it all before

I had a windy tell me he had loads of work i only ever saw his car in a pub car park

if you can do 50 houses a day to a profesional standard i will eat my hat

Its not how many its how much !!!
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Sseddon on June 09, 2010, 07:30:35 pm

And 50 a day behave mate not a chance unless they only have 3 windows mate
people are not stupid on this forum they have heard it all before



Not to support or otherwise the OP's claim, my dad had a round in Bristol in the 70s & 80s. On some terraced streets I remember he tore through them. He would walk around the top bays with chamois & scrim. He had pretty much every house in the streets he did, so very compact. He was also a perfectionist, so they were all done to a high standard. Sadly he died in January so I can't ask him how many he'd do a day, but it was certainly a lot more than 20. He was useless at business though. He was too cheap and never put his prices up.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: peter1983 on June 09, 2010, 08:39:42 pm
lol 50 a day no way i have been window cleaning for 8 year now from 19 year old i can get max 14 house done a day
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Sseddon on June 09, 2010, 08:54:51 pm
lol 50 a day no way i have been window cleaning for 8 year now from 19 year old i can get max 14 house done a day

How long does each house take you?
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Jack Wallace on June 09, 2010, 09:19:54 pm
50 a day has to be a typing error! If not why is he complaining about the round growing so fast? with only 300 on the books at 50 a day he is a part timer  ;D
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Clive McDonald on June 09, 2010, 09:35:30 pm

And 50 a day behave mate not a chance unless they only have 3 windows mate
people are not stupid on this forum they have heard it all before



Not to support or otherwise the OP's claim, my dad had a round in Bristol in the 70s & 80s. On some terraced streets I remember he tore through them. He would walk around the top bays with chamois & scrim. He had pretty much every house in the streets he did, so very compact. He was also a perfectionist, so they were all done to a high standard. Sadly he died in January so I can't ask him how many he'd do a day, but it was certainly a lot more than 20. He was useless at business though. He was too cheap and never put his prices up.

Exactly. Learn from your dad. Most on here like your dad, great blokes, but not much money.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: geefree on June 09, 2010, 11:40:37 pm
average around 20 - 24 on a decent , comfy day,

thinks thats about the norm,
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: ianharper on June 10, 2010, 06:48:53 am
Ryan

well done Ryan. How are you getting the work? sounds like you work really hard. I hope no so hard you work yourself into an early grave  :)

Respect

Ian Harper
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Klean07 on June 10, 2010, 08:15:50 am
We've got 14 jobs booked for today two people average house is about £20+ we'll start at 10 and be back in house for 3pm. Theyre all pretty close together so I would say the 20 mark is just about achievable.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: chopsie on June 10, 2010, 10:50:20 am
yeh but with 2 men
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Klean07 on June 10, 2010, 04:56:12 pm
Yes two men, so I would say 12 of those £20 houses I could do on my own. However if they were terraced houses all in same street probably more than 20.
Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on June 11, 2010, 06:27:15 pm
here we go again  ::)

i have one round, where there is 50 houses & a pub.  and today it has just increaded to 51 houses and a pub.

i work it every 4 weeks

its all compact work, moving the car only about 8 times during the day.

there is a few houses, thats fronts only, theres downstairs flats, upstairs flats, bungalows, 2 bed semi's, 3 bed semi's.

dont believe me?? i couldnt give 2 monkeys  ;D



Title: Re: growing too fast?
Post by: Sean Dyer on June 11, 2010, 07:18:35 pm
i have rounds where i do over 50 in a day alone, its easily do able theyre not mansions
but you wouldnt be knocking out 50 3 bed semis in a day alone unless you were something special

although if you did 5 an hour its 10 hours