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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 04, 2010, 07:57:58 pm

Title: Conservatory restore.
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 04, 2010, 07:57:58 pm
How do you guys price up a restoration of uPVC conservatory ie using a uPVC restorer.
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Post by: Blue Frog Systems on June 04, 2010, 09:54:46 pm
Not done one by hand, but would charge an hourly rate to be honest. I dont think you could guess the price unless you have done them before
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Post by: Small but perfectley formed on June 05, 2010, 06:53:11 am
High :o
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Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 05, 2010, 08:17:45 am
How high? Say per meter inc roof.
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Post by: Small but perfectley formed on June 05, 2010, 04:50:21 pm
£15-£25 depending condition,
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Post by: Window Washers on June 05, 2010, 06:39:50 pm
How high? Say per meter inc roof.
I know some companies are charging over £600 to clean up a conservatory's

I would at least triple your normal price
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Post by: Blue Frog Systems on June 05, 2010, 07:42:19 pm
If you have the conservatory ladder I would charge your daily rate plus materials. Obviously the bigger the conservatory, the longer it would take.
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Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 06, 2010, 07:34:07 am
Thanks for the replies. I guess I will have to time myself on some work.
A customer asked about a restore as opposed to a clean and they winced when I said it would take all day if not longer. I didn't have any idea but didn't want to under sell.
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Post by: Londoner on June 06, 2010, 08:11:11 am
You can spend days restoring the upvc on a conservatory. Or an hour or so just doing the roof. You need to be sure what standard of work is required and price accordingly.

There have been people on here who used to specialise in conservatories. Some of their prices were high if you believe everything you read.

Before you start getting involved with upvc cleaner have a few practice goes because I don't think it works as well as it should in all cases.
Title: Re: Conservatory restore.
Post by: John Walker on June 06, 2010, 05:47:25 pm

Not sure where you are based but most sole traders that I know round here (Kent) work on £100 a day minimum.  I have worked on this for pricing purposes and it sems to work ok.  On domestics that's only ten small jobs in a day which if they are clustered should be easily achievable even for someone who has only been going a while (once they have a big enough customer base of course).

On an average size conservatory for a full restore, on the above basis I would price that as a days work.  For a regular service clean, sides/doors only I usually charge £15.

Hope this helps

John
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Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 06, 2010, 06:04:33 pm
Thanks John, I would imagine a days work for a conservatory (my day rate is a bit higher though) but I think I will try the restorer at home first.
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Post by: geefree on June 06, 2010, 08:46:07 pm
Dont use upvc restorer, it sticks and dries before it can be wiped, and all the black from the rubber seals end up all over,

t.cut is the way.... takes a couple of hours.
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Post by: actualcleaning on June 06, 2010, 09:39:46 pm
Dont use upvc restorer, it sticks and dries before it can be wiped, and all the black from the rubber seals end up all over,

t.cut is the way.... takes a couple of hours.

And damages the factory finish.A solvent based upvc cleaner is the way to go around the rubber seals and a upvc restorer cream based will bring up the frames and sills.
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Post by: John Walker on June 07, 2010, 03:49:49 pm
Dont use upvc restorer, it sticks and dries before it can be wiped, and all the black from the rubber seals end up all over,

t.cut is the way.... takes a couple of hours.

I agree, it is difficult to remove if you let it dry but there is a way round this.  Work with it quite wet and rinse from a hand held or larger spray with extension pipe and spray as you go along.  I've had some excellent results with it. 

I wouldn't use T-Cut - it will take the very thin UPVC glossy top coat off and may cause permanent damage.
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Post by: geefree on June 07, 2010, 04:18:38 pm
I Appreciate what you are saying, but one dab on a cloth will clean a large conservatory sill,  and  you dont need to press on or rub hard, hence cleaning the dirt only,

and its great for scratches, ..done my own con for 3 years and its gleaming new and shiny.

i sometimes wet the whole frames first , then add t.cut.... makes it easier and still gleams.

each to their own though, only trying to help.
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Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 07, 2010, 05:09:14 pm
What is the difference between uPVC 'Restorer' and 'Cleaner' and which is more similar to t-cut?
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Post by: Central Window Cleaners on June 07, 2010, 06:28:43 pm
I used a couple of those magic sponges from JML to remove all of the black marks and stains on the frames and sills last week work a treat and only cost a quid.

Will be buying a load more as only bought one to see if they were any good.
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Post by: edd on June 07, 2010, 06:46:46 pm
Gazza is quite right t cut does work a lot better then most stuff and a bonus it will shift most lime scale too from windows ha ha bet you didnt know that !!
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Post by: dmlservices on June 07, 2010, 08:01:33 pm
You can spend days restoring the upvc on a conservatory. Or an hour or so just doing the roof. You need to be sure what standard of work is required and price accordingly.

There have been people on here who used to specialise in conservatories. Some of their prices were high if you believe everything you read.

Before you start getting involved with upvc cleaner have a few practice goes because I don't think it works as well as it should in all cases.


very true . ;)


daz
Title: Re: Conservatory restore.
Post by: John Walker on June 07, 2010, 10:33:50 pm
I Appreciate what you are saying, but one dab on a cloth will clean a large conservatory sill,  and  you dont need to press on or rub hard, hence cleaning the dirt only,

and its great for scratches, ..done my own con for 3 years and its gleaming new and shiny.

i sometimes wet the whole frames first , then add t.cut.... makes it easier and still gleams.

each to their own though, only trying to help.


Hi Gazza

Well you've convinced me - have already got some T-Cut in my car kit so now going to give it a try.  Have taken heed of your comments ie. not using too much and not rubbing too hard etc.

Cheers
John
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Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on June 08, 2010, 08:58:26 am
How long do you leave the T-cut on for as i tried it last night on my windows and didn't really restore like I had hoped.
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Post by: wayne 77 on June 08, 2010, 07:31:16 pm
T-cut is a rubbing compound if you leave it will not work needs elbow grease, TFR can be left but not to long,  never done a coony but  hope this helps