Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on June 03, 2010, 10:36:42 pm
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50l pure freedom trolley with 12 barrels
20ft extel g/f pole with 2 brushs(rectangle 12in/monofilament sill(both vikan)
30 m extension/spare hose
rectus 21 spares/hoselock spares/warning cone
pole tap&holster
25L DI VESSEL(FULL OF RESIN)/2.7 DI VESSEL(FULL OF RESIN)
just ordered it!!LET THE FUN BEGIN!!! :D ::) :'( 8) ??? ::) :) :D :D ;D ;D ;D
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nice one daz, the only thing i will say is give it time, you will have days were you think 'why the hell have i done thi' but the majority of the time you will love it and wish you had made the change years ago
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big mistake with the vikans m8,
daz
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its been a long time coming ste(or seems like it!!).ive already cleaned a lot of dirty frames on my round/switched to gg3/know which frames are oxidized and likely to give me problems ;)
now its time to relearn my round,take my time.im sure ill take to it like a duck to water!!!ill be asking more questions and letting you all how i go on in the coming weeks and months!! ;D ;D
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dml im quite sure i will find out what suits me over time!
the vikan sill brush i will use for conny roofs/fascias etc and the 12in rectangle for normal windows.
people have been using vikans for years!whats so bad about them?maybe their heavier than supalites but ive never used one so i wouldnt know the difference! ;) :) :)
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nothing wrong with the viking mono brushes daz ;) they may be heavier but at 20 foot who cares, i am only 5ft 6 and weigh 9 stone wet through and never had a problem with the extra weight of a brush ;D or pole for that matter. jings ive had my son out at 13 years old and he didnt struggle
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stu mac im 6ft/2in and 18 stone with big arms so i should be ok for a while!!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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yes dazmond you will !
you will also find out, that some of the other gear you bought won' t either ;)
my comments on the vikans were not only about weight, other factors will come into play,
it is only when you get out into the real world with all your w.f.p.gear that you will find out whats best for you ;)
you might even find the trolley a waste of time and money, or you might get on with a trolley from the off,
i guess we will soon find out ;D
daz
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nothing wrong with the viking mono brushes daz ;) they may be heavier but at 20 foot who cares, i am only 5ft 6 and weigh 9 stone wet through and never had a problem with the extra weight of a brush ;D or pole for that matter. jings ive had my son out at 13 years old and he didnt struggle
i was not on about the weight stu, i think there are better brushes out there ;)
i know a lot use vikans , it's down to individulal preferences
daz
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i did think long and hard about the trolley daz but itll be ok as i could always buy a tank or use it as a mini van mount at a later date.
like you say i will only learn through my own "hands on" experience! ;) ;D
im really looking forward to it though! ;) :) :)
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i know you have, best of luck with it ;)
daz
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weldone daz,cant wait to hear the tells of the first weeks learning. ;D ;D ;D
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After the pump in my pump box dying after 3,5 years use I now have my old freedom trolley in the van and after re-fitting all the connector with quick release types ...all is well..so most of the time the trolley just sits there every now and then I just close the ball valves...remove the trolley whack on a 25 litre container and off I go....
Sometime I just am in the hose habit when the trolley would be better/faster...so having a trolley as a pump box is not such a bad idea...
Good luck with the new gear Daz...
Cheers
Dave.
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dml im quite sure i will find out what suits me over time!
the vikan sill brush i will use for conny roofs/fascias etc and the 12in rectangle for normal windows.
people have been using vikans for years!whats so bad about them?maybe their heavier than supalites but ive never used one so i wouldnt know the difference! ;) :) :)
Personally I think you have got that the wrong way round, we use only vikan ledge and sills on domestics for one good reason.
I have picked up a few customers from other cleaners who have damaged upstairs sills using normal flat brushes.
As you are cleaning the bottom of the glass or the sill itself using a normal brush the base plate is often touching the sill, especially on windows where access is tight such as small passages, grit on the sill then creates deep grooves (if the sill is plastic) I learned this the hard way when it happened to me when I first started with wfp about 7 years ago.
Sure the ledge and sill may weigh a little more but so what, if you can’t lift it you’re in the wrong job. ;)
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How much you paid for all that? ive got a full setup for sale in the for sale section which isnt selling at £300
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altogether i shelled out 1200quid birdymiller! ;D ;D
everything will be brand spanking new.i didnt want second hand stuff anyway mate.
i will be using this gear day in/day out and i bet you ve only got the 25L version trolley!i wanted the 50L so im not filling up half as much.also itll be better on a few small commercial buildings i do methinks!! ;) ;D ;D
thanks guys!
im hoping ill get the gear on tuesday/wednesday next week as ill be straight up with work by then.then im gonna take a few days off and practice a bit before unleashing it on my custys the week after!! ;) :) :)
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Good work Daz
Stick with it son as some days your gonna think "what the hell have i done"
Mate it will be well worth it in the not too distant future and i know by reading your recent posts you have really planned the switch over brilliantly,.
WELL DONE DAZ
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nothing wrong with the viking mono brushes daz ;) they may be heavier but at 20 foot who cares, i am only 5ft 6 and weigh 9 stone wet through and never had a problem with the extra weight of a brush ;D or pole for that matter. jings ive had my son out at 13 years old and he didnt struggle
i was not on about the weight stu, i think there are better brushes out there ;)
i know a lot use vikans , it's down to individulal preferences
daz
hi mate i find the whole brush type pretty irrelevant as long as its mono, i have used salmon, brodex, viking and can clean a window equally well with either i also have a cheap car wash brush for applying tfr/detergent to con roofs and facsias
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thanks for all the support guys!im counting down the days!!i should have my gear by tuesday and ill be virtually straight up with work so ill be having a few days off tinkering with it and practicing then ill start the following monday!
im changing nearly everything over to wfp straight away!i need the practice!itll be wfp tops and some conservatories and a bit of tradding downstairs windows.
best wishes to you all
dazmond
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I really think you will make a success with it , you have done your homework and seem well prepared .
Also you have a good customer base , so I think they will be patient with you .
All the best and it will be good following your progress .
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Are you sure you want a trolley not van mount mate ;D ;D ;D ;D
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50l pure freedom trolley with 12 barrels
Mug!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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mug? ;D ;D ;D ;D
ill let you know how i get on with it groundhog.its gotta be better than lugging ladders/unger trad pole/bucket/ladderstopper about all day!! ;D ;D ;D
not to mention safer! ;) ;D ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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mug? ;D ;D ;D ;D
ill let you know how i get on with it groundhog.its gotta be better than lugging ladders/unger trad pole/bucket/ladderstopper about all day!! ;D ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
You will be wishing you had listened to my advice by the end of the week after lugging all that water around with you!! mark my words Dazmond!!!!!!!! ;)
Good luck!!! (your gonna need it!!!!!!) ;D ;D
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has it arrived yet then mate?
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groundhog my gear should arrive by tommorrow according to my email! :D :D :D
i will be putting extra extension hose on back of trolley so im not moving it as much.i have a lot of very compact work with parking issues so im sure the trolley will be fine!
i can always leave it in the van for stand alones although i havent many! ;) ;D ;D
just because you didnt get on with the trolley doesnt mean i wont! ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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it will be interesting to hear how you get along :)
all the best
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cheers bobby!im taking a few days off(weather gonna be pretty bad up here in the north west anyway! ;))
im virtually straight up with work! :D
so im gonna be tinkering around with the system and cleaning family/friends/neighbours windows free of charge!then maybe clean a few custys houses friday then full throttle next monday!
everythings getting changed over bar a block of granny flats and a few old wooden/oxidized frame windows.i will still trad the odd downstairs windows and the odd bungalow but mainly ill be wfp!
i dont see the point in changing over gradually as ive pre-prepared the windows by cleaning the top frames and switched to gg3 4 months ago.ill probably be a bit slowly at first but i reckon ill soon speed up after a few weeks/months!!
i might as well get stuck in every day as i need the practice!! ;) ;)
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has it landed yet. ;D ;D ;D ;Di bet you did sleep all night. :P :P 8) 8)
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well done and good luck Dazmond.
Enjoy.
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pure freedom phoned me this morning to say trolley wont be coming today or tommorrow ::) ::)
hopefully friday or monday now.they say a supplier has let them down! :'(
oh well ill just have to wait a few more days!
regards
dazmond
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they say a supplier has let them down
Febble excuse so they phone you on the day it is suppose to arrive after sending you an email the day before to say it would be here today,
I mean surely they would have know yesterday?
Not very good service!
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james they emailed me friday to say it would be expected to be here on tuesday then got the phone call about 11 this morning.
apparently something that goes on the handle of the trolley they buy in and the supplier has let them down!
what can i do?ill just have to wait it out!
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Well done Daz, good move.
We all make our own way with WFP, we can't learn without refining from where we start.
Its the best move youve made, not a bad way to be going on.
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cheers lads!its just frustrating waiting for the damn stuff! ::) ::) ::)
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james they emailed me friday to say it would be expected to be here on tuesday then got the phone call about 11 this morning.
apparently something that goes on the handle of the trolley they buy in and the supplier has let them down!
what can i do?ill just have to wait it out!
When I placed my order with them yesterday they said that they had some trolley based systems made up if I wasn't fussy about colour & I should have it before the end of this week.
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seddon mines a 50L TROLLEY and ive ordered it in blue!maybe theyve got lots of 25L ones ready to send out!
it says on the website please allow 7 working days for delivery of trollies and i ordered it late on thursday night so hopefully itll be here by the end of the week! :D :D
i dont see the point in just getting a 25L one as you ll be filling it up all the time!50L should last me roughly an hour before needing to be filled again after first cleans are out of the way! ;) ;D ;D
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Well done, Daz, I look forward to reading your posts detailing your experience.
Good luck, mate and remember you may find it slower and a bit frustrating to begin with, but you'll get so quick you won't believe it; but that'll take a bit of time.
Easy does it!
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thanks tosh!ive already cleaned most of the top frames etc trad.
itll take me a bit of time to learn the best way of approaching each job etc but i think ill soon get the hang of it.
i think i need to be patient with the hose and make sure im avoiding splashing the top frame and walls while rinsing the window!! ;) :) :)
regards
dazmond
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.its gotta be better than lugging ladders/unger trad pole/bucket/ladderstopper about all day!! ;D ;D ;D
thats overkill id lose the pole and stopper and life will be easier ;)
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been using all that for years stan as ive fell off a few times and i work on my own!
but when i get my trolley itll just be the modern version of a window cleaning cart! ;) :D :D
........with the odd bit of ladder work here and there(probably less than 10% :D :D :D)