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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Elfords Carpet and Window Cleaning on May 27, 2010, 09:54:43 pm

Title: Is this right?
Post by: Elfords Carpet and Window Cleaning on May 27, 2010, 09:54:43 pm
http://glwindowcleaning.blogspot.com/?gclid=CJL897-Z86ECFQE8lAodZALonw
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: sherco on May 27, 2010, 09:58:33 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: Mist A Bit on May 27, 2010, 10:08:26 pm
alot of people seem unsure of the exact h&s rules and im one of them. i look at it this way if i can use another meathod (wfp) than i will. if a ladder is the only option after ruling everything else out then i`l climb a ladder.
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: darren clarke on May 27, 2010, 10:11:59 pm
http://www.desktoplawyer.co.uk/dtl/index.cfm?event=base:article&node=A76060B52988D76432
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: Window Washers on May 28, 2010, 06:37:42 am
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on May 28, 2010, 08:21:49 am
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: toronto on May 29, 2010, 05:45:43 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!

If you can sue is entirely depenant upon the circumstsnces ie if the ladder should slip on concrete that could be deemed hadnt been properly maintained ie its green and slippy bthen you could sue.
This is called duty of care and thats how low life burglers sue sometimes if they have accidents on their victims property (glass in concrete on walls and stuff)
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: 4Taz on May 29, 2010, 05:54:00 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!

Not heard of the Occupiers Liability Act 1957/1984 then?  ::)

Be careful of advice given as can often be wrong
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: LQQK on May 29, 2010, 06:02:13 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!

Not heard of the Occupiers Liability Act 1957/1984 then?  ::)

Be careful of advice given as can often be wrong

The OLA has nothing to do with this.

Be careful of advice given as can often be wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupiers%27_Liability_Act_1957
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: Window Washers on May 29, 2010, 06:19:16 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!
if you fell from a ladder the person you was cleaning for would be the home owner/ business owner, they would be employing you to do a job would they not ?
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: 4Taz on May 29, 2010, 06:27:58 pm
The old scare the customers...dont let people use ladders they will sue you if they fall ...yeah right!
but quite true isnt it ?

No the ladder user cant sue the householder or business. They could sue their employer but doubtful. The HSE can prosecute both parties though.

However, the height restrictions seem completely made up!

Not heard of the Occupiers Liability Act 1957/1984 then?  ::)

Be careful of advice given as can often be wrong

The OLA has nothing to do with this.

Be careful of advice given as can often be wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupiers%27_Liability_Act_1957

Exactly........you've proved it............recent case law suggests otherwise!

The OLA has a lot to do with this & the wikipedia page you quote appears to confirm it.
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: Glen Bullivant on May 29, 2010, 07:29:59 pm
Be careful, the example given with mossy/poorly kept concrete or whatever is dodgy because uou have a responsibility for your own H&S and the first question you would be asked in an enquiry would be, why didn't you see the danger?
Title: Re: Is this right?
Post by: LQQK on May 29, 2010, 07:30:39 pm


Exactly........you've proved it............recent case law suggests otherwise!



??

Ive proved what?