Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: derek west on May 21, 2010, 03:58:34 pm
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anyone heard of this company, there based in manchester somewhere?
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www.procleaningservices.co.uk
Rob ;D
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i know the website rob, i should do its got all my wording on it, just wondered if anyone knew the robbing beep beep.
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Hahaha cheeky robbing little bstds!
Give him a call Derek, go on you know you want to ;)
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i know the website rob, i should do its got all my wording on it, just wondered if anyone knew the robbing beep beep.
Lol ;D
Cheeky git ! Take it as a compliment - but give him a tug anyway
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watch out del
he is woolsafe approved just like vanish
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Derek look at it this way mate yours must of been the best site they looked at on the web so they copied or there lazy and yours was the first they came across :P
SOME LEAD OTHERS FOLLOW I WOULD CALL THEM AND BOOK THEM WHEN THEY TURN UP SAY SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WERE AFFORDABLE CLEANERS ;D
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I'm sure i read once that google punishes websites that have identical text,could be wrong as i know jack about websites,but it's worth bearing in mind.
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Not sure what area it is derek in manchester is it north manchester..is it word for word ::)
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yeah word for word
www.copyscape.com
type in your url and it tells you if anyones copied it.
rang him but went through to answer phone, so sent him and his web designer an email. see what happens, wouldn't mind if he'd dropped me a line to ask, obviously i'd of asked hime to mix it around a bit but to just copy and paste, :o
i got a call off one of the guys on here asking if he could change the name of his business to affordable cleaners, fine by me. not sure if he has but at least he had the common decency to ask me.
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Just checked my main site and I've copied part of it myself onto my other site - DOH !! :o
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Look at his commercial cleaning page
http://www.procleaningservices.co.uk/pages/commercial-cleaning.php
and then look at mine
http://www.carpet-cleaning-liverpool.co.uk/commercial-carpet-cleaning-liverpool.html
Spot the difference? I emailed him a while back but still not changed ::)
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Now that's taking the P!!
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His home page says he is a member of Woolsafe, mmmm
http://www.woolsafe.org/find/
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soon find out, just emailed woolsafe.
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And theres more. what the difference between mine
http://www.carpet-cleaning-liverpool.co.uk/Upholstery-cleaning-Liverpool.html
and his
http://www.procleaningservices.co.uk/pages/leather-upholstery-cleaning.php
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www.procleaningservices.co.uk
Rob ;D
Oops looks like too many have hit on his website recently......currently unavailable
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Oh dear, well just look at mine and Dereks sites if you want to read his ;D
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Four Square Innovations in Leeds. We've used them in the past but don't any more, for obvious reasons.
Had a similar a problem a few years ago with Derek's site where DP Design had included word for word the wording of our new Yellow Pages advert which we were foolish enough to have the final design done by them, only for it to turn up on Derek's website BEFORE the Yellow Pages advert was even printed. (no fault of Derek's, it has to be said who had the material removed immediately)
This is an issue of trust and confidentiality and clearly DP Design saw anything that crossed their desk as material they could then re-sell to other clients even though it was plagiarised material from other clients supplied 'In Confidence.' Needless to say we don't do business with them either.
Simon
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Four Square Innovations in Leeds.
What about them?
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Simon are you now using 4 square and not using DP?
Shaun
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Shaun,
Not using either. Best to keep things like this 'in house.' The problem with SEO companies is that they offer EVERY client the same thing and when they are not working for you they may well be working for your competitors. Not saying they've re-used any of our material, because they haven't but, but they do work for our competitors and that brings in a conflict of interest which is never a good thing.
Simon
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Cant see what they have to do with this topic? 4squarre havent pinched content, some bone head in Manchester has!
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Dave,
You need to have an SEO company that works just for you and not your competitors. If they are working for you and promising you Page 1 status they are also promising the same thing to your competitors. Best to either DIY or get a company that works fore only you in your area.
Simon
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he's not woolsafe approved, says it all really.
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I use 4 square I have no issues but seeing your point, you may need to have a local expert not a web expert which is infront of all carpet cleaner is the real motto of the story.
Shaun
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Any one can copy websites , any decent web designer will do what they call "spinning".
My web designers know nothing about carpet cleaning , so they search several other sites , rip off the content then "spin " the words and change them enough so people like copyscape can not detect copying.
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Any one can copy websites , any decent web designer will do what they call "spinning".
My web designers know nothing about carpet cleaning , so they search several other sites , rip off the content then "spin " the words and change them enough so people like copyscape can not detect copying.
You must be doing well if you have a team of web designers promoting your company :-\ text is text, if they use that so what.. someone elses logos and pics are a big no no
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Any one can copy websites , any decent web designer will do what they call "spinning".
My web designers know nothing about carpet cleaning , so they search several other sites , rip off the content then "spin " the words and change them enough so people like copyscape can not detect copying.
Dont see a problem in the above, Ive looked at websites for ideas, then put them in my wn words.
Its more then cheeky, IMO, to copy whole sections of text and not attempt to change much if anything at all.,
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Any one can copy websites , any decent web designer will do what they call "spinning".
My web designers know nothing about carpet cleaning , so they search several other sites , rip off the content then "spin " the words and change them enough so people like copyscape can not detect copying.
You must be doing well if you have a team of web designers promoting your company :-\ text is text, if they use that so what.. someone elses logos and pics are a big no no
I mean my web designers , in the same way , I mean my doctors, my butchers, my petrol station !
I use optimize yorkshire.
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Just pulling your leg Jasonl, people sometimes take my sense of humour the wrong way.
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I do it my self and it works really well for us ;D
I agree with major clean up, when you use compnaies like DP they do exactly the same for your competitors.
It takes time yes, but at leas i know it works and no other websites are identical to mine.
dash t
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seems his site has ran out of bandwidth :D
i wouldn't worry about him copying your text word for word as he's only making it worse for himself. google will see it's all copied and penalise him heavily for it.
have to admit, i've made a site a few weeks ago which i'm not currently promoting, but all the text on it right now is copied and edited just to fill the gaps until i have time to edit it properly. it's standard practice and silly to worry about unless they're close enough that customers are likely to find yours and theirs at the same time
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i wouldn't worry about him copying your text word for word as he's only making it worse for himself. google will see it's all copied and penalise him heavily for it.
A common myth that.
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A common myth that.
I think I have to agree with you. I have numerous websites of which a few were identical. Didn't seem to effect their positionings within the same search.
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A common myth that.
I think I have to agree with you. I have numerous websites of which a few were identical. Didn't seem to effect their positionings within the same search.
how do you know it wasn't effecting their positioning?
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how do you know it wasn't effecting their positioning?
Because I'd have 4 different websites (but vertually all identical content) on the first page.
And to be honest I'd settle for that anyday.
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how do you know it wasn't effecting their positioning?
Because I'd have 4 different websites (but vertually all identical content) on the first page.
And to be honest I'd settle for that anyday.
but that could be down to other reasons (lack of competition, better seo then others etc) , and would mean it's easier (not easy) for competition to steal the top spot.
unique is what Google wants, not copied, so they'll penalise, or do nothing if you're lucky, but given that the best way to get new customers is from the likes of google, why take the risk. i'd say advising that repeated content is ok is daft (not aimed directly at you) and not good for a lot of people who don't know better.
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Appreciate that websites are an economical way to advertise your wares - but why all this drama about whose transcript is plagiarised by whom. 99.9% of the time any potential client is not going to come across it & even if they do it wouldn't effect their judgement.
Can't understand why carpet cleaners can't just converse with potential clients in the old fashion way :-\ - keeps me fully occupied cleaning carpets etc - and more so - anything I say or write to a potential client is not plagiarised by another carpet cleaners
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must admit frans, 2 days ago i would of said the same thing about someone using someone elses wording, but when you see your own wording identical on someone elses website it really p's you off. like i said, if he'd of asked me i'd of said, "knock yourself out mate, be my guest" so its not about the wording, its about the bare faced cheek of it.
those that have had it done to them will know where i'm coming from. those that haven't will think i'm being petty, just like i would of, 2 days ago.
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Derek, send an email to his webhost, www.theplanet.com. Think his web guy has a reseller account via www.freevirtualservers.com. And send him an email stating that you are complaining to his hosting provider about copyright infringment etc etc
Also, send an email to his domain name provider www.easyinternetsolutions.co.uk with the same complaints.
The domain name provider probabely wont care much but a good threat all the same.
Tony
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Adam,
If you want placeholder text for design, try www.lipsum.com/
Derek,
I had a similar problem with cut and paste. A guy stole a page of my site, meta tags and all. He was running 12 Adsense only sites around the country (and ranked above me due to loads of backlinks).
He had no Who is details either.
I complained via Google Webmasters. Nothing... then about six weeks later, all 12 of his sites were completely de-indexed. Might be worth a try?
Garry
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Adam,
If you want placeholder text for design, try www.lipsum.com/
thanks but i prefer using real text so i can see how it'll work, e.g. have a header that says something catchy, then a paragraph of larger font size with quick explanation, then more smaller paragraphs with better explanation etc, which is harder to do with lipsum
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No problem, just a thought. i guess if you take that step out of the equation and just use real text it helps.
I get people complaning that "the words are all in foreign" ! :D
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Hi Garry, just sent you email.
I was showing my mate something I was working on, he said "whats all that"
I said, "it`s Latin." the reply was "Ah didnay ken you could speak Latin"
I looked at him dead pan and said "Oh aye"
The look on his face was priceless. ;D
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Quality!
They do other languages as well. One for the long winter evenings.
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Rab,
Does Dreamweaver have the latin built in?
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Don`t think so, but wouldn't be surprised if it did somewhere.