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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: woody1 on May 20, 2010, 06:43:10 pm
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just had a bailiff turn up at my door saying i owed 475 for a speeding offence, this is the first i heard of it, phoned courts they say i have to pay bailiffs now not them great for a fine off 60 any way agreed to pay wednesday, must say he was a propper idiot i dont want to pay him i want to pay there fees any help guys
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slow down in future ;D
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you have to pay it mate theres no way out of it, but you should of recieved a letter of some sort from the bailiff office,dont forget bailiffs can only charge so much.
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nothing u can do, if he is from the courts he can enter your property and add more fees on, what the courts are doing now is when they fine u they are making a collection order at the same time, so if you dont pay they just send bailiffs
if u say any thing to him, they just call the police and get u arrested why they empty ur house, would he not take payments
if it wasnt a fine from the courts then he couldnt enter ur house
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you should of had about 6 or 7 letters from the courts and offices though.
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ur gonna ave 2pay m8 :( trust me i used 2 do it ;) ;D
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didnt get any letters which is the problem i didnt pay him today as wanted to ring the courts first what a bitch
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just keep ur cool, pay the bill & let it just go away. if u say u didnt get any letter they wont belive u, so
dont even bother wastin ur breath. & make sure if the bailliff come back u dont get charged 4 that visit
as well, cause they can. :(
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nothing u can do, if he is from the courts he can enter your property and add more fees on, what the courts are doing now is when they fine u they are making a collection order at the same time, so if you dont pay they just send bailiffs
Assuming that there is sufficient collateral in the house to cover the £475 and the cost of a policeman and a locksmith and a transit van and 2 removal men and storage costs. Otherwise they wont take anything.
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nothing u can do, if he is from the courts he can enter your property and add more fees on, what the courts are doing now is when they fine u they are making a collection order at the same time, so if you dont pay they just send bailiffs
Assuming that there is sufficient collateral in the house to cover the £475 and the cost of a policeman and a locksmith and a transit van and 2 removal men and storage costs. Otherwise they wont take anything.
thats wrong they take anything and everything, if it does not stack up at least they have something, they do not care a fig, fair play to them but I would not like to mug people like they do.
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if they got a court order they will go where they eant as well ;)
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nothing u can do, if he is from the courts he can enter your property and add more fees on, what the courts are doing now is when they fine u they are making a collection order at the same time, so if you dont pay they just send bailiffs
Assuming that there is sufficient collateral in the house to cover the £475 and the cost of a policeman and a locksmith and a transit van and 2 removal men and storage costs. Otherwise they wont take anything.
thats wrong they take anything and everything, if it does not stack up at least they have something, they do not care a fig, fair play to them but I would not like to mug people like they do.
Not according to our local county court baliff. But if you know better mate.
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nothing u can do, if he is from the courts he can enter your property and add more fees on, what the courts are doing now is when they fine u they are making a collection order at the same time, so if you dont pay they just send bailiffs
Assuming that there is sufficient collateral in the house to cover the £475 and the cost of a policeman and a locksmith and a transit van and 2 removal men and storage costs. Otherwise they wont take anything.
thats wrong they take anything and everything, if it does not stack up at least they have something, they do not care a fig, fair play to them but I would not like to mug people like they do.
Not according to our local county court baliff. But if you know better mate.
what they say and what they do seems to be different ;)
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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bailiffs-sheriff-officers/218094-what-can-bailiff-charge.html
have a read through that might help you.dunno tho
sure this was a wc forum
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just had a bailiff turn up at my door saying i owed 475 for a speeding offence, this is the first i heard of it, phoned courts they say i have to pay bailiffs now not them great for a fine off 60 any way agreed to pay wednesday, must say he was a propper idiot i dont want to pay him i want to pay there fees any help guys
First thing I would do is ask to see his ID and check out he is who he says he is.
Once you've established that try to find out the details of the alleged offence, it could be some sort of error.
Good luck.
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I have had more than my fair share of run ins with bailiffs.
I was told my our local county court bailiff there would be no point at all in trying to remove articles from my property to sell as doing so other costs would be incurred, as Ive already explained, only making matters worse.
A bailiffs job is to reimburse their client not to make it harder to gain any outstanding funds. Bailiffs are not what most people like to portray them as.
They'll take a look, assess the worth of articles in a house and make their decision based on that. Lets face it a second hand TV dont get diddly-squat.
Someone has to pay the lock-smith, removal men, van-hire and storage fees. It is pointless and they know it to try to make it harder to reimburse their client.
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all u will do is make it easier 4the bailiff in the end, cause there costs will go through the roof. i used 2 take the cars ;) if they didnt give me the keys i used 2call out 4a highab..... yet even more costs.
u will not win :(
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When i got to know that the courts took me to court without informing me, i was told to applied to my courts in which i went to court and they quashed the £1,750 pounds.
This was for a car i sold years ago and it was for none tax and moving the vehicle away.
You have to write a letter to the court to appeal and they give you the date for your hearing.
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i believe a bailif cant take your tools of your trade .,never can
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i believe a bailif cant take your tools of your trade .,never can
yer i yhink ur rite m8, but i couldnt say 4sure :-\ as its been 5years since i done all that ;D
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If you have opened the door to them and thay have been inside thay can now brake in at any time and take anything they wont, best to pay it and fight it after. good luck
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If you have opened the door to them and thay have been inside thay can now brake in at any time and take anything they wont, best to pay it and fight it after. good luck
Never ever invite a bailiff into your house, or leave any windows or doors open (that's classed as an 'invite'). Speak to them outside. There's lots of rules governing bailiffs and I don't think they have the power that some on here think they have.
I've read stories about bailiffs leaving letters saying they'll return with locksmiths and stuff, but as long as they have never been invited into your house at some earlier stage, they can't gain access.
There's lots of stuff on the interweb about the powers bailiffs have; so make sure you spend some time doing your research, and find out how to contest the fine if you believe it has nothing to do with you.
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they can with a court order. if they cause any damage they ave 2pay 4it. but they can get in if u like it or not. fact.
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youl have too pay as each viset +£££££££££££££
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thats anywhere between £250/ £350 per visit..... thank u very much ;D i used 2get £120 ;)
the rest go 2the company or court ::)
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didnt let him in went outside agreed to pay the nob wednesday in full great theres my rainy day fund gone cheers for the help lads :D
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thats anywhere between £250/ £350 per visit..... thank u very much ;D i used 2get £120 ;)
the rest go 2the company or court ::)
the company work a bit like a pimp then?
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didnt let him in went outside agreed to pay the nob wednesday in full great theres my rainy day fund gone cheers for the help lads :D
I'd do some research before I parted with any money or agreed to anything. I've dealt with bailiffs when I was in the army (I was the Unit Debt Councillor and for my sins, I had to help the guys who'd gotten themselves in the poo with their money) and the rules governing them are complex, and I know for a fact that what they threaten and what they can actually do are two different things.
And court order or not, I never let them in the camp gates, and I never had the police turn up after me; though I was once served a notice by a Court Sherrif that the guard let into camp, but that wasn't to do with bailiffs >:(.
I try not to dislike anyone these days, but bailiffs, why does someone choose to prey on other people's misery for a living?
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its just a job Tosh, simple as that. if they didnt do it, & the dept was just past on 2the rest of us, u would be happy with that then? i think not m8. u prob work hard 4ur money, so why should others get way with it 4free???? ::)
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thats anywhere between £250/ £350 per visit..... thank u very much ;D i used 2get £120 ;)
the rest go 2the company or court ::)
the company work a bit like a pimp then?
no diff 2any other comp...... they earn out of there employes. ??? ??? ???
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its just a job Tosh, simple as that.
Is it just a job though?
From the link:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23387683-bailiffs-will-be-given-power-to-break-into-homes.do
bailiffs are already largely a law unto themselves, using threats and menacing tactics to ensure debtors pay up. Many levy huge and questionable collection charges which force people deeper into debt.
Personally, I wouldn't consider it 'just a job' where I had to threaten people who could be vulnerable into paying money they haven't got. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror in the morning if I had to do stuff like that.
And as I said, bailiffs have NOT got the power to break into your property carte blanche:
At present, only certain enforcement officers - notably those pursuing magistrates court fines - have powers to break in.
Bailiffs enforcing County Court Judgments can enter a property only if the householder lets them or they find an open window or unlocked door.
if they didnt do it, & the dept was just past on 2the rest of us, u would be happy with that then?
Apart from my mortgage, I have no debt, but the above isn't strictly true. When you take out a loan one of the many factors that dictates your interest repayment is the level of risk you pose to the lender. So, if for example I took out a loan against the equity of my house, I would pay a low rate of interest because the loan is secured on a property with equity; therefore the lender's level of risk would be low. So lenders already pay - in higher interest rates - on loans that're already defaulted.
u prob work hard 4ur money, so why should others get way with it 4free???? ::)
Some don't get away with it for free, some pay with their lives:
Over the last three years there have been a number of suicides of desperate borrowers. In February last year 47-year-old Ian Beech, a father of two, killed himself on the day the family home was due to be repossessed. Citizens Advice fears the new powers for bailiffs could lead to more such tragedies.
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just had a bailiff turn up at my door saying i owed 475 for a speeding offence, this is the first i heard of it, phoned courts they say i have to pay bailiffs now not them great for a fine off 60 any way agreed to pay wednesday, must say he was a propper idiot i dont want to pay him i want to pay there fees any help guys
I would want to see a paper trail of evidence of everything, if what you say is honest, that you don't have a clue about this speeding offence.
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Some don't get away with it for free, some pay with their lives: thats a bit heavy Tosh :-[
do those people work 4the courts??? ;D
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Some don't get away with it for free, some pay with their lives: thats a bit heavy Tosh :-[
do those people work 4the courts??? ;D
heavy but true, the way someof these companies operate is too harass to the point of submission. the door step boys are the worst they sent some big old lumps to intimadate women to pay up. i got a ticket from one of these over a parking ticket they wanted 75 quid for a 25 quid ticket i asked them to justify how they got to this ammount, they would not answer but instead threatend to send me to prison if i did not pay. i laughed at them and asked when we brought back debtor prisons. then went down the court paid the 25 quid with an explanation of why i was paying them. they where fine with it.
they operate through fear and intimadation once that is gone they have no teeth
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Good that you haven't let him in yet as that may help.
Also, if you have a porch and he has crossed its threshold, I believe that counts as already having gained entry.
Just in case he isn't as good as his word, I suggest that you park any vehicles quite a way from home too - just in case. It may be that he will be as good as his word but you never can tell.
I can't understand why this is the first you have heard of it. Have you moved house since the (alleged) speeding offence? Did you thoroughly check the documentation to ensure that it was your exact name on there so that it's not mistaken identity. Could the offence have been committed in a vehicle you had recently sold? When selling a vehicle, I always put the time of day of the sale as well as the date in case they buy it and clock up an offence a few hours later.
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So how come (as everyone seems to be saying DONT LET HIM IN THE HOUSE ~~ and I assume those who are saying this have had direct dealings with bailiffs) whenever I had dealings with the local county court bailiff he'd come in, sit down, we'd chat, have a cuppa, he'd tell me how to do some plastering work as he used to be a building foreman, he told me about his family, his wife and son, he'd aske me how my job was going, we'd talk about the weather, he told me I obviously didnt have enough belongings to clear the debt so where was the point in removing anything; then he'd ask me how much I could afford on that day, Id tell him, he'd take it, give me a reciept and ask me when was the next best convenient time for him to call.
He had a number of warrants under my name; if I gave him £50 he'd split it into two and pay a bit off both accounts.
Id love to hear peoples actual experiences, but its tiring to hear what they THINK should be said.
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That was a brave and a good post, Elfords1. However you dealt with a County Court Bailiff, and I strongly suspect that non public sector bailiffs are as professional or as understanding as one employed by the council.
In fact I would bet money that they're not.
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That was a brave and a good post, Elfords1. However you dealt with a County Court Bailiff, and I strongly suspect that non public sector bailiffs are as professional or as understanding as one employed by the council.
In fact I would bet money that they're not.
thats 1 bet u just lost Tosh ;D cause i was as nice as pie ;) & i was only a civil bailiff ;) workin 4a london firm.
who just delt with loan companys like Lombard direct. ;)
so how much have 1 won? ;D ;D ;D
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The Citizens Advice Bureau don't seem to hold bailiffs in high regards according to the London Evening Standard, in fact they make some of them out to be a bunch of bullying gangsters:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23387683-bailiffs-will-be-given-power-to-break-into-homes.do
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but wot about the bet ;) ;D ;D
ive gotta admit m8.... ur rite. there r some rite prats doin the job. but no diff from any other job,
u will always ave ur good, bad & the ugly ;D
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i checked every thing it was me and i had moved address around the same time will pay the fine and have to work harder to make the money back but i would never let them in i locked the door behind me
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i checked every thing it was me and i had moved address around the same time will pay the fine and have to work harder to make the money back but i would never let them in i locked the door behind me
Clearly it was the house move that caused it then. You'd think there would be some system in place for tracking people before resorting to bailiffs. Mind you, I suppose having mail redirect for a few months would be a good idea too - especially for the self-employed. I'm wondering if the new residents bothered to do the "NOT KNOWN AT THIS ADDRESS" bit and reposted it.
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A lot of Baliffs are no more than freelance licensed debt collectors and as such are little better than wheel clampers.
Not all baliffs are the same. There was a programme on TV a while back who had his car seized by some firm of baliffs because of fines incurred by the previous owner. The owner of the firm of baliffs was like a night club bouncer.
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A lot of Baliffs are no more than freelance licensed debt collectors and as such are little better than wheel clampers.
Not all baliffs are the same. There was a programme on TV a while back who had his car seized by some firm of baliffs because of fines incurred by the previous owner. The owner of the firm of baliffs was like a night club bouncer.
;D ;D ;D funny that ;D as i was both ;)
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You canvassing now Hitman?
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You canvassing now Hitman?
yes m8 ;) ive just put some info on the paul bass thread, if ur interested.