Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chopsie on May 19, 2010, 07:42:32 pm
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I am getting through loads of water, Tried having varistream on 3 and 4, Now tried it on full (9) as peter fpgwell and jeff teperary (something like that!! :P ) Was saying on a previous post, But seem to use the same amount of water anyway. I have a 400 litre tank in my van and from what i have read on here people are doing 15-20 house with this (maybe more).
I struggle to do 7 or 8 :( any tips or advice, Maybe a useful video? I have a tap on my belt so not much gets wasted between windows etc. Thinking of getting a bigger tank.
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I am getting through loads of water, Tried having varistream on 3 and 4, Now tried it on full (9) as peter fpgwell and jeff teperary (something like that!! :P ) Was saying on a previous post, But seem to use the same amount of water anyway. I have a 400 litre tank in my van and from what i have read on here people are doing 15-20 house with this (maybe more).
I struggle to do 7 or 8 :( any tips or advice, Maybe a useful video? I have a tap on my belt so not much gets wasted between windows etc. Thinking of getting a bigger tank.
I would have a min of 500 for a days work anyway:
but can you do a video showing how you work ? I will then do one and shjow you how I do it. if you are using 400L on 7/8 standard type 3 bed houses the way you are doing it is totally wrong..........
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thanks ian, i will try and get the mrs to film me over next few days on our house then e-mail it you if thats.
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Chopsie
I've only recently started using wfp and what I do (not sure if it's what others do or not) is to clean the frames then wet the glass and then stop the water, give the glass a good scrub and then rinse.
I can do a 3 bed semi detached on about 10-15 litres, but obviously depends on how dirty the windows are to start with
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Cheers murdie.Have considered doing that, But am worried that the end result will not always be ok. How long have you been doing it like that for? Any comments or feedback off your custies?
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wot size hose do you use 6 m is best with out very strem or by pass
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I use 8mm from pure freedom
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Chopsie
I've only recently started using wfp and what I do (not sure if it's what others do or not) is to clean the frames then wet the glass and then stop the water, give the glass a good scrub and then rinse.
I can do a 3 bed semi detached on about 10-15 litres, but obviously depends on how dirty the windows are to start with
thats not the way to do it , i work with a high flow rate, and don't stop the water to scrub , you just need to work quicker , knowing how much scrubbing /rinsing is the key , spending any more time rinsing / scrubing is wasting time and water.
daz
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yeh i think you are right dml. I have found using a high flow rate is quicker and i use no more water (probably a little less)
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Chopsie
I've only recently started using wfp and what I do (not sure if it's what others do or not) is to clean the frames then wet the glass and then stop the water, give the glass a good scrub and then rinse.
I can do a 3 bed semi detached on about 10-15 litres, but obviously depends on how dirty the windows are to start with
thats not the way to do it , i work with a high flow rate, and don't stop the water to scrub , you just need to work quicker , knowing how much scrubbing /rinsing is the key , spending any more time rinsing / scrubing is wasting time and water.
daz
End result is a clean window, so I don't see how you can say I'm doing it wrong. Im all for learning from the experianced guys but as everyone seems to have there own technique then I'll stick with mine for now.
No major complaints from my custies either, so that is encouraging as well. I did have one old guy who came home just after I'd left and couldn't understand why I'd left his windows wet but other than that all seem happy.
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i have a 400 litre tank and can do about 15 houses from it with say three of them with cons. what i do is run my varistream at 5 and have fitted my own 2mm jets. this gives a good pressure with a lot less water.but i could not do a house on 10 to 15 of water.
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I have a 350l tank and run my varistream on 5 for first cleans and 2 on normal work . I would say i can manage about 18 ave houses before refilling.
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I am getting through loads of water, Tried having varistream on 3 and 4, Now tried it on full (9) as peter fpgwell and jeff teperary (something like that!! :P ) Was saying on a previous post, But seem to use the same amount of water anyway. I have a 400 litre tank in my van and from what i have read on here people are doing 15-20 house with this (maybe more).
I struggle to do 7 or 8 :( any tips or advice, Maybe a useful video? I have a tap on my belt so not much gets wasted between windows etc. Thinking of getting a bigger tank.
I'm not familiar with Varistreams etc as I never use them. One way that helped me greatly reduce water usage was to switch from half inch hose to microbore. So if you don't already have a smaller bore hose, that may be an option to look at. It's a lot easier to maneouvre too.
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i got 8mm hose paul. think technique is my down fall? considering trying the autobrush from peter fogwell to try and save a little more :-\
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i use an xline trolley on setting 2 flow rate and for my monthly and two monthly cleans i can do about 4 - 5 houses tops only wfp with 25 litres.
so with 150 litres im getting a good days work done with that.
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Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
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Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
:o thats good going,
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Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
76 houses in one day, is your town full of toy houses ;D
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Chopsie
I've only recently started using wfp and what I do (not sure if it's what others do or not) is to clean the frames then wet the glass and then stop the water, give the glass a good scrub and then rinse.
I can do a 3 bed semi detached on about 10-15 litres, but obviously depends on how dirty the windows are to start with
thats not the way to do it , i work with a high flow rate, and don't stop the water to scrub , you just need to work quicker , knowing how much scrubbing /rinsing is the key , spending any more time rinsing / scrubing is wasting time and water.
daz
End result is a clean window, so I don't see how you can say I'm doing it wrong. Im all for learning from the experianced guys but as everyone seems to have there own technique then I'll stick with mine for now.
No major complaints from my custies either, so that is encouraging as well. I did have one old guy who came home just after I'd left and couldn't understand why I'd left his windows wet but other than that all seem happy.
the whole point of w.f.p. is to have water running all the , so you are scrubbing and rinsing at the same time , by turning of water you are wasting time , but if it works for you then carry on, just trying to say it's not the most time efficient way to go about it
daz
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Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
they most be 1 bed 1 window houses back and front, as it is not possible to clean that amount of say a standard 3 bed semi
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350 ltrs / 76 houses = 4.6 ltrs per house
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Hi there,
Ok he is my take on this issue.
Firstly you must have a flow control valve fitted to your pole - preferably the "thumbturn type" - next make sure your flow controller is on at least setting 8 imo.
Then when you clean a window you can first open up your water flow fully and do the frames and wet the glass. Then you can close your water flow up for a quick scrub if needed - i find if you leave the water flow on you do not get enough friction with the brush sometime to scrub away harder deposits bird muck etc.
Then you can open flow fully up again for the rinse - which is better and quicker as you have your varistream set high.
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hi
You can get 1.5 mm pencil jets from cleantech that should save you some pure water
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Hi there,
Ok he is my take on this issue.
Firstly you must have a flow control valve fitted to your pole - preferably the "thumbturn type" - next make sure your flow controller is on at least setting 8 imo.
Then when you clean a window you can first open up your water flow fully and do the frames and wet the glass. Then you can close your water flow up for a quick scrub if needed - i find if you leave the water flow on you do not get enough friction with the brush sometime to scrub away harder deposits bird muck etc.
Then you can open flow fully up again for the rinse - which is better and quicker as you have your varistream set high.
i glance at windows when i start job , any bird muck gets a spray of water , then left to
soak whilst i do other windows, it then comes of with hardly any scrubbing,and it quicker
to ;)
daz
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I am getting through loads of water, Tried having varistream on 3 and 4, Now tried it on full (9) as peter fpgwell and jeff teperary (something like that!! :P ) Was saying on a previous post, But seem to use the same amount of water anyway. I have a 400 litre tank in my van and from what i have read on here people are doing 15-20 house with this (maybe more).
I struggle to do 7 or 8 :( any tips or advice, Maybe a useful video? I have a tap on my belt so not much gets wasted between windows etc. Thinking of getting a bigger tank.
Roughly how long do you spend on each window Chopsie?
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Windows that have been cleaned several times before require hardly any time. Parts of frames that are cleaned will require one pass brush on. Then the glass down and up once brush on, zigzag down the window brush on and if your fussy take the brush off and rinse. All of this can be done in seconds. Smaller jets do help reduce water. To use that much water though it has to be your method of work.
Simon.
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Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
76 houses a day :o don;t you mean sheds ;D
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lol 76 houses in one day,who is he trying to impress?
he must be on a footballers wage!
then he woke up ;D
76 x 20= 1520 cleans a month if he done that everyday for 20 days x by £10 average house + £15200 a month ;D
that beard is getting a bit big or nose one thinks ;D ;D ;D
Get a pole trigger you will save at least 25% did 76 houses yesterday (upstairs most and all that were leaded) with 350 l .
76 houses a day :o don;t you mean sheds ;D
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get some 1mm pencil jets form cleantech i now only use 200 ltrs a day usally work about 7-8 hrs a day
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Roughly how long do you spend on each window Chopsie?
bit hard to say really, Average 3 bed semi takes me around 30-40 mins i guess, sometimes quicker.
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Roughly how long do you spend on each window Chopsie?
bit hard to say really, Average 3 bed semi takes me around 30-40 mins i guess, sometimes quicker.
from those times i would say you are spending to much time on each window.
daz
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what would you say would be average time you do a 3 bedder in?
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so would I, i would have thought 20 mins max but its hard to tell without seeing
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chopsie can you put a google street view up of a house that takes 30 to 40 minutes
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=park+road+ashbourne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Park+Rd,+Ashbourne,+Derbyshire+DE6+1FN&gl=uk&ei=ufD6S9v-D5f20gT5u43qBw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ8gEwAA
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i do an average 3 bedder in 15 mins trad!i would be disappointed if i couldnt do one in 10 mins wfp(after a few cleans).30-40 mins wfp? ::) ::)sounds like somethings wrong somewhere chopsie?are you cleaning the soffits and fascias and garage doors in that time??!!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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around 10 mins for those houses
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judging from that pic its terraced but supposing its two up two down at the back ten minutes max, although it may be a struggle to get round the back it still wouldnt take 30 to 40 minutes
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sorry its one over the road behind the lorries. 10 min heh, I am wank ::)
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=park+road+ashbourne&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Park+Rd,+Ashbourne,+Derbyshire+DE6+1FN,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=ufD6S9v-D5f20gT5u43qBw&ved=0CBUQ8gEwAA&ll=53.015093,-1.729531&spn=0.006261,0.013089&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.015012,-1.729517&panoid=Aj9Z4VzYT8HRCWrqnBpGig&cbp=12,101.3,,0,5.96
do you mean these ones
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if so still ten minutes
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yeh thats them. how do you make it go to the house you want when copying and pasting, as obviously mine just went to a map
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at the top of view there is a tab with link on it. press that then copy and paste on here
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=8+park+road+ashbourne&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=8+Park+Rd,+Ashbourne,+Derbyshire+DE6+1,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=8Pb6S5GKHpaI0wTQuq3qBw&ved=0CBUQ8gEwAA&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.014749,-1.729482&panoid=Aijwp57ZbFqAzUOEBdYLgw&cbp=12,78.87,,0,13.66
I see, thanks
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I have found in the past few years that during the winter period I use less water and then in summer I need to bear in mind a little more water is required during the summer months.