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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MNWC on May 14, 2010, 03:25:00 pm

Title: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: MNWC on May 14, 2010, 03:25:00 pm
I need to know where i stand legally on this-

I advertised in the local rag for a window cleaner with experience
had a few numptys ring up.

Anyway picked this one lad out that said he had experience, turns out he didnt.
told him to come along Wednesday for a trial. We did about 6 hours work and i paid him £6 p/h

The part time lad that i had with me has now decided to go full time which i accepted

rang the the other lad up and told him that i was very sorry but im sticking with the part timer as he knows the job, got experience etc....

He said that what ive done is illegal and hes going to get a solicitor onto me plus hes going to come round and burn my van out  ;D ;D a right charmer.

What are your thoughts
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: mci services on May 14, 2010, 03:27:38 pm
just ignore him he will go away ;) you gave a trial and he failed simple.
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: daz1977 on May 14, 2010, 03:28:53 pm
he is just trying it on,  all u got to say was it was a trial and he was crap and you told him it was a trial period,
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 14, 2010, 03:32:16 pm
report him to the police asap for threatening to burn out the van!
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Alistair@AWC on May 14, 2010, 03:33:49 pm
report him to the police asap for threatening to burn out the van!

What he said!
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Martin ccs on May 14, 2010, 03:34:23 pm
you gave him a trial and i guess paid him cash?

can you see him letting the tax man know of his days earnings??? - no!

he gave you a false answer when he said he had experience so i would def not worry about a thing!
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: MNWC on May 14, 2010, 03:41:49 pm
He really is a little scrote  ;D

22 all mouth and no trousers plus he stank of B.O  :-*
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: daz1977 on May 14, 2010, 04:36:02 pm
He really is a little scrote  ;D

22 all mouth and no trousers plus he stank of B.O  :-*

an other loser improving the image of window cleaning
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: simon w on May 14, 2010, 05:39:20 pm
If he stank of BO he wouldn't have lasted as long as 6hrs working for me  ;D
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: MNWC on May 14, 2010, 05:52:53 pm
Reported him to the old bill and got an incident number  ;D
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: dave0123 on May 14, 2010, 07:05:18 pm
I took one onboard few months before christmas saying he worked for a company window cleaning for two years... well all i can say is he was rubish most things have to be re cleaned.


i think because they think oh its only window cleaning they can lie on there CV or something and think we wont know  ??? the idiot could'nt even keep a wake for 1 day without sleeping between every job.

In the end he asked to be sacked and asked me to type a letter saying there is no work se he can go on the dole.. BLOODY CHEEK
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: MNWC on May 14, 2010, 07:33:48 pm
im beginning to think this employing lark is too much of a pain in the harris !!
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: simon w on May 14, 2010, 08:15:08 pm
im beginning to think this employing lark is too much of a pain in the harris !!

Best bet is to train them from scratch. I've done this many times over the years and have found that it can take anything up to 12 months before their anywhere near what you'd class as a half decent shiner!  :)
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: amayze on May 14, 2010, 09:02:52 pm
Marcus,

Did you make it clear that it was a work trial?
If so, then you shouldn't have paid him as generally work trials are unpaid.

However, you can get out of this one quite easily.

Make up a matrix, listing different elements of the job, such as level of interpersonal skills, ability to take on new tasks and other things you would want your assistant to be like or skills you would like them to have.
Then score both, on a scale of 1 (low) to 5 (high).

* List the right skills required and you can prove that you "selected" the best candidate.

Used to use this method when making compulsory redundancies. As long as it's clearly documented - you're in the clear !
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: richard jagger on May 14, 2010, 09:38:59 pm
Tell the police about the burning your van and forget about it.
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: geefree on May 14, 2010, 09:45:44 pm
Send him a letter which states you are taking him to court for claiming he had experience, coupled with the threats which you recorded.
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Clive McDonald on May 14, 2010, 09:48:36 pm
Ha! Hoist by your own petard. You figure the bullet proof way of victimising employees you don't like so there's no come backs for the company and they repay you by giving you a one on the matrix- thanks for that by the way- and next thing they keep the lap top and you get to carry a  mop and bucket.
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: geefree on May 14, 2010, 09:53:23 pm
Ha! Hoist by your own petard. You figure the bullet proof way of victimising employees you don't like so there's no come backs for the company and they repay you by giving you a one on the matrix- thanks for that by the way- and next thing they keep the lap top and you get to carry a mop and bucket.

you been drinking slump ?
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 14, 2010, 11:00:36 pm
tell him ccc wuda knocked him clean out lol ;D
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: richywilts on May 15, 2010, 12:18:10 am
tell him ccc wuda knocked him clean out lol ;D

that with ya bad breath!!
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 15, 2010, 06:59:46 am
I need to know where i stand legally on this-

I advertised in the local rag for a window cleaner with experience
had a few numptys ring up.

Anyway picked this one lad out that said he had experience, turns out he didnt.
told him to come along Wednesday for a trial. We did about 6 hours work and i paid him £6 p/h

The part time lad that i had with me has now decided to go full time which i accepted

rang the the other lad up and told him that i was very sorry but im sticking with the part timer as he knows the job, got experience etc....

He said that what ive done is illegal and hes going to get a solicitor onto me plus hes going to come round and burn my van out  ;D ;D a right charmer.

What are your thoughts
Hey Marcus,
Was this the guy you emailed me about? I have been advertising this week also but have not been contacted by him; if it’s a different person could you email me his name please so I can be aware.

Welcome to world the of employing mate.  ::) 
Title: Re: Your thoughts please...legal matters
Post by: MNWC on May 15, 2010, 08:57:49 am
email sent  ;)