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Title: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 09, 2010, 08:30:59 pm
i have a large storage tank in the garden that holds 440 ltrs and also a 200 ltr water butt.
i live in a large old terraced house so my tanks are in the back garden and van is out the front.
my house is 75 ft long.
is there a way of filling it?
without obviously filling with 25 litre tanks?
cheers for any advice in advance.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 09, 2010, 08:32:35 pm
Transfer pump and hose
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 09, 2010, 08:33:33 pm
how much is a transfer pump?
how long would it take to fill a 250 litre tank?
cheers
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 09, 2010, 08:43:48 pm
Both mine cost about £40 each, will take about 4 minutes  ;D
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Post by: dmlservices on May 09, 2010, 08:44:03 pm
my transfer pump takes less than 5 mins to fill my 500 ltr tank.



daz


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Post by: cleewindows on May 09, 2010, 08:45:53 pm
sounds good,where you get them from?
Both mine cost about £40 each, will take about 4 minutes  ;D
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Post by: dmlservices on May 09, 2010, 08:51:41 pm
bought mine from gardiners


daz
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 09, 2010, 08:52:48 pm
Any where really, even argos sell them

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7111208/Trail/searchtext%3EWATER+PUMP.htm

Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: dmlservices on May 09, 2010, 08:55:48 pm
the only problem you will come across, is not being able to see tank from where your static setup is sited,you will need some sort of tap on the end of your transfer hose ,

daz
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 09, 2010, 09:04:06 pm
the only problem you will come across, is not being able to see tank from where your static setup is sited,you will need some sort of tap on the end of your transfer hose ,

daz

IMO that's always a good idea anyway.  The hose only needs to get knocked down below the top of water level and it will syphon.  A tap would stop that.  I've always used one myself.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 09, 2010, 09:11:08 pm
Yer I got a tap on mine too, the weight of it means I can just drop it into tank, turn pump on via remote and carry on with other things  ;)
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 09, 2010, 09:17:54 pm
ill shout the mrs to turn it off lol
could i syphon it ?
the tanks in my garden are higher than my van as i have steps upto my front door?
if i sucked it through the hose would it work and how fast?
or am i best to just get a pump? and where do i get suction hose from?
cheers
the only problem you will come across, is not being able to see tank from where your static setup is sited,you will need some sort of tap on the end of your transfer hose ,

daz
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 09, 2010, 09:19:11 pm
You could syphon but would be a pain, this is the tap ive got,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-5-Ball-valve-2-hosetail-reducers-KOI-FISH-POND-/220516007245?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item3357c73d4d
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 09, 2010, 10:03:43 pm
if i was to buy this what hose would i need?
cheers
Any where really, even argos sell them

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7111208/Trail/searchtext%3EWATER+PUMP.htm


Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 10, 2010, 07:27:29 am
if i was to buy this what hose would i need?
cheers
Any where really, even argos sell them

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7111208/Trail/searchtext%3EWATER+PUMP.htm



Transfer hose mate, from any aquatics, any size you want as you just cut the connectors down to size.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 10, 2010, 11:01:54 am
cheers m8
i presume i need 1 " hose?
so basically i meassure from my tank to my van?
give myself say a extra few metres?
if i was to fit a tap on the hose would i just cut pipe in half and then fit tap inbetween?
do you just run a pipe from transfer pump into my tank its coming from?or does it work from taps?
sorry for all the questions
cheers
if i was to buy this what hose would i need?
cheers
Any where really, even argos sell them

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7111208/Trail/searchtext%3EWATER+PUMP.htm



Transfer hose mate, from any aquatics, any size you want as you just cut the connectors down to size.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 10, 2010, 11:21:19 am
If you get the transfer pump from gardiners this should fit into the tank, 1" hose will be fine, just cut the sections on transfer pump off that arent needed, push hose on, use clips to secure, then youll need 1" male to male adapter so you can join 2 hoses together and 2 more clips, then put tab on end with anothe clip,
you put tap at the end of the hose.
Ill take pics of mine later and email you them as ive done the same as you want to do, put your email address up  ;)
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 10, 2010, 11:45:45 am
cheers mate thanks
lcfcwin@hotmail.com
If you get the transfer pump from gardiners this should fit into the tank, 1" hose will be fine, just cut the sections on transfer pump off that arent needed, push hose on, use clips to secure, then youll need 1" male to male adapter so you can join 2 hoses together and 2 more clips, then put tab on end with anothe clip,
you put tap at the end of the hose.
Ill take pics of mine later and email you them as ive done the same as you want to do, put your email address up  ;)
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 07:57:37 am
Sorry Clee will sort later today  ;)
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: Window Washers on May 11, 2010, 07:58:14 am
I got a transfer pump from wickes, and some hose local and a petrol pump/type tap (i DID HAVE A PETROL Trigger but the cold in the winter killed it off)
allin cost about £70

the pump chucks water out at 110L a min.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 11, 2010, 10:50:37 am
nice one rwc and sounds good window washers
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 07:57:26 pm
Pump in tank..........
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 08:01:04 pm
Hose coming through ibc..........
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: Window Washers on May 11, 2010, 08:04:51 pm
Pump in tank..........
do not know how much Alex sells sub pumps for, can you shed light on that Chris ?


I did have to cut a v vent in ibc tank to get wickes one in, but have to say it works greta and pumps like a gooden, till I find better I will be buying the same pump for the other ibcs.

I cant take a pic of my ibc tanks or pump as I cant get in there as is a little cramped for space, roll on 5 weeks fingers crossed double crossed and toes crossed also.... I then get a full unit kitted out with loads of space and no faffing about  ;D,
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 08:05:33 pm
Connector to link hoses together........
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Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 08:06:14 pm
Tap......
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Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 08:07:58 pm
Clips for hose connector, sub pump and tap........(this is a old one but the only one I could find)
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 08:09:46 pm
As promised..........Hope this helps Clee
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 11, 2010, 08:18:42 pm
i think m8 cheers
so basically the pump goes in my 440 ltr storage tank,
pipe goes from my pump into the tank in my van?
cheers
As promised..........Hope this helps Clee
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on May 11, 2010, 08:25:25 pm
The pump speed will be slowed by 1/2 maybe  2/3's because of the length of the hose.  I have a 280lpm pump but at my last place pumping at a length of 50 meters it would still take 13 mins to fill a 650L tank, not 2 and a bit mins.

Simon.
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: Window Washers on May 11, 2010, 08:30:28 pm
The pump speed will be slowed by 1/2 maybe  2/3's because of the length of the hose.  I have a 280lpm pump but at my last place pumping at a length of 50 meters it would still take 13 mins to fill a 650L tank, not 2 and a bit mins.

Simon.
where did you get your problem from ? and do you have a link ?
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: dmlservices on May 11, 2010, 08:33:46 pm
The pump speed will be slowed by 1/2 maybe  2/3's because of the length of the hose.  I have a 280lpm pump but at my last place pumping at a length of 50 meters it would still take 13 mins to fill a 650L tank, not 2 and a bit mins.

Simon.

what size transfer hose do you use?

daz
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: cleewindows on May 11, 2010, 08:35:48 pm
are these ones anygood? at the bottom.
cheers
http://www.johnhewitt.com/pumps.htm
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Post by: Window Washers on May 11, 2010, 08:55:04 pm
are these ones anygood? at the bottom.
cheers
http://www.johnhewitt.com/pumps.htm
that looks like a pump you would use to clean windows with, if it is it is no where near good enough it does not have enough flow
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: R W C™ on May 11, 2010, 09:00:11 pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7500-LITRE-HOUR-SUBMERSIBLE-WATER-PUMP-SPA-FLOOD-400W-/190379163562?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item2c537b7faa
Title: Re: filling tank in my van?
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on May 11, 2010, 09:36:50 pm
The pump speed will be slowed by 1/2 maybe  2/3's because of the length of the hose.  I have a 280lpm pump but at my last place pumping at a length of 50 meters it would still take 13 mins to fill a 650L tank, not 2 and a bit mins.

Simon.

what size transfer hose do you use?

daz

I was using 1 inch hose, now I'm in a different place the pump only has to pump about 5 meters of 1 inch and it only takes 4-5 mins tops.  I wouldn't have wanted to reel out anything bigger than 1 inch over that distance.

The pump speed will be slowed by 1/2 maybe  2/3's because of the length of the hose.  I have a 280lpm pump but at my last place pumping at a length of 50 meters it would still take 13 mins to fill a 650L tank, not 2 and a bit mins.

Simon.
where did you get your problem from ? and do you have a link ?

What problem? link?  Doesn't take a lot to confuse me and you've done it?

Pump was off of gardiners, and the hose and reel were from some irrigation sites.  Hope that has answered any questions.

Simon.