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Title: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 07, 2010, 09:49:17 pm
any one use one of there with there pressure washers,  they any good,  do u just add the bend on and spray all the crap out of the gutters or do u still go up there and clean by hand
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: d s windowcleaning on May 08, 2010, 08:33:17 am
ive been using 1 for the last few weeks on fascia & soffits and cant belive how easy these jobs are now compared to using wfp on them . yeah theres a bend for doing the insides of gutters with .
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 08:47:26 am
so was work the money then, as am thinknig of getting one
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 08:51:29 am
BM what pressure washer you got/getting?

I am just deliberating at the min...

Also, what size telescopic?
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: actualcleaning on May 08, 2010, 09:04:36 am
I use one all the time for upvc cleaning.Also comes into good use on cladding especially on industrial buildings.Best bit of kit i bought,beats the wfp hands down. :)
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 09:24:28 am
any one know where i can get a cheapish one as dont want to spend a fortune on one
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 09:26:33 am
any one know where i can get a cheapish one as dont want to spend a fortune on one

http://www.northerntooluk.com/pressure-washer-accessories/general-accessories/gutter-cleaner_1573211E.html
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 09:39:30 am
cheers for that concept

the pressure washer i got is 2200 psi and basically i want to blast the dirt from the gutters, i should be able to just blast it as if i was pressure washing the ground shouldnt it   or do i need to still get up there and dig out all the crap
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 09:42:53 am
Thats what I am planning to do! I can imagine it gets a bit messy tho  :-\
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Window Washers on May 08, 2010, 09:45:40 am
cheers for that concept

the pressure washer i got is 2200 psi and basically i want to blast the dirt from the gutters, i should be able to just blast it as if i was pressure washing the ground shouldnt it   or do i need to still get up there and dig out all the crap
No you will just shoot crap everywhere, I hope your not doing posh places..
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 09:47:36 am
mite just get ladders and clean them out and then pressure washer with my pressure washer as its got a 10 m hose


as what i have been using is a scoop to scoop the crap out but got a real bad one next week,  might try and rig something up and c what i can come up with
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 09:49:42 am
double the work then?

may as well wipe it all down when you are up there?
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: actualcleaning on May 08, 2010, 09:52:34 am
Have a look at the youtube vid that jeff1 put up,he shows you how to do it properly with a guuter scoop and pw.
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 10:10:52 am
are gutter scoops available to buy?
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: actualcleaning on May 08, 2010, 10:17:08 am
Yes you can buy a basic sccop,but this is designed to be used whilst you are at the same level as the gutters,but jeff made his own that can be used from the ground on a pole to take the crap out and then cleans it with the pw and a gutter cleaning attachment.
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 10:24:36 am
u got a link to it
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 10:32:02 am
Yes you can buy a basic sccop,but this is designed to be used whilst you are at the same level as the gutters,but jeff made his own that can be used from the ground on a pole to take the crap out and then cleans it with the pw and a gutter cleaning attachment.

i dont fancy diy'ing, always takes me too long and may as well have just bought one lol.

is there not one on the market that attaches to the top of the lance?
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Daniel Watson on May 08, 2010, 10:37:26 am
may be asking a stupid question here but...

is all you need just a pressure washer, a telescopic pole and the gutter attachment.

i am getting asked to do gutters quite a lot and would love to say yeah.

how much do you charge
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: mick hay on May 08, 2010, 11:39:02 am
Ive just bought a p/washer lance gutter attachment etc.

To clean upvc gutters soffits etc, i would say it halves the time!!

I havent as yet cleaned inside gutters although have been asked, i always say.....

" i use a presure washer with attachments, it not only cleans them out but flushes all the guttering and checks the downpipes are clear by jetting them.  yes it can cause the muck to come down the walls, but i clean that up for you.......But you are left safe in the knowledge, that they are totally clear AND sparkling inside!!!"

An old saying in sales "bullpoop baffles brains"

At the end of the day, they are paying to have their gutters emptied...thats what i will do.

If you fore warn them that it may cause a bit of a mess that you will clean up, then everyone is happy!!!!
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: concept on May 08, 2010, 12:30:18 pm
Can you blast the soffits with vents?!
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 08, 2010, 01:55:14 pm
Ive just bought a p/washer lance gutter attachment etc.

To clean upvc gutters soffits etc, i would say it halves the time!!

I havent as yet cleaned inside gutters although have been asked, i always say.....

" i use a presure washer with attachments, it not only cleans them out but flushes all the guttering and checks the downpipes are clear by jetting them.  yes it can cause the muck to come down the walls, but i clean that up for you.......But you are left safe in the knowledge, that they are totally clear AND sparkling inside!!!"

An old saying in sales "bullpoop baffles brains"

At the end of the day, they are paying to have their gutters emptied...thats what i will do.

If you fore warn them that it may cause a bit of a mess that you will clean up, then everyone is happy!!!!

Thanks for that Mick! May I ask a question - to set up a complete system what did you buy and how did you do it?
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Carl2009 on May 08, 2010, 03:00:19 pm
I bought said lance in January, to use in conjunction with a 3600psi / 18lpm pressure washer. I would not use it for cleaning soffits and gutters except on places you can guarantee that there won't be any water ingress into the roof space. At height these lances are beasts - I have the back belt (essential for higher work, say over 15 ft) and have carabiners on it rather than the plastic buckles.

Yes, it does clean soffits and gutters well, but no better than wfp + tfr (and there's no risk there); is it quicker - marginally. At height the bendy lance is very hard to control accurately, thus it's difficult to get in nooks and crannies. It gives a hell of a kick to it when you start it off too.

Where it does come into its own is exterior building cleaning (pressure washing). Apply tfr via a wfp + trolley and hose off. It's very quick and gives a great result, especially on smoother-rendered buildings. Mind you, Nat will talk to you about "soft-washing", which has its place too, imo.

Am I glad I bought the lance (the 24' one) - yes. Do I use it for cleaning the insides of gutters - no chance - it'll blow 'em off the wall (I bought the U-shaped gutter attachment too, but have yet to use it). Would I use it for cleaning the exteriors of gutters, fascias and soffits - no, not worth the risk. Would I use it for exterior  walls - every time. Worth the outlay - yes, with the right machine. Is it quicker than wfp on g, f and s - marginally.

Be aware that the (larger?) lances come in 2 weights. I have the lighter weight one and it's very hard work on the shoulders. You'll have shoulders like cannonballs after a while and even a glass fibre wfp will feel like a feather.
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: mick hay on May 08, 2010, 06:45:21 pm
Ive just bought a p/washer lance gutter attachment etc.

To clean upvc gutters soffits etc, i would say it halves the time!!

I havent as yet cleaned inside gutters although have been asked, i always say.....

" i use a presure washer with attachments, it not only cleans them out but flushes all the guttering and checks the downpipes are clear by jetting them.  yes it can cause the muck to come down the walls, but i clean that up for you.......But you are left safe in the knowledge, that they are totally clear AND sparkling inside!!!"

An old saying in sales "bullpoop baffles brains"

At the end of the day, they are paying to have their gutters emptied...thats what i will do.

If you fore warn them that it may cause a bit of a mess that you will clean up, then everyone is happy!!!!

Thanks for that Mick! May I ask a question - to set up a complete system what did you buy and how did you do it?

send me ya e mail, and i'll send the list, dan worgan advised me on it, its good gear!!
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: actualcleaning on May 08, 2010, 07:47:24 pm
I bought said lance in January, to use in conjunction with a 3600psi / 18lpm pressure washer. I would not use it for cleaning soffits and gutters except on places you can guarantee that there won't be any water ingress into the roof space. At height these lances are beasts - I have the back belt (essential for higher work, say over 15 ft) and have carabiners on it rather than the plastic buckles.

Yes, it does clean soffits and gutters well, but no better than wfp + tfr (and there's no risk there); is it quicker - marginally. At height the bendy lance is very hard to control accurately, thus it's difficult to get in nooks and crannies. It gives a hell of a kick to it when you start it off too.

Where it does come into its own is exterior building cleaning (pressure washing). Apply tfr via a wfp + trolley and hose off. It's very quick and gives a great result, especially on smoother-rendered buildings. Mind you, Nat will talk to you about "soft-washing", which has its place too, imo.

Am I glad I bought the lance (the 24' one) - yes. Do I use it for cleaning the insides of gutters - no chance - it'll blow 'em off the wall (I bought the U-shaped gutter attachment too, but have yet to use it). Would I use it for cleaning the exteriors of gutters, fascias and soffits - no, not worth the risk. Would I use it for exterior  walls - every time. Worth the outlay - yes, with the right machine. Is it quicker than wfp on g, f and s - marginally.

Be aware that the (larger?) lances come in 2 weights. I have the lighter weight one and it's very hard work on the shoulders. You'll have shoulders like cannonballs after a while and even a glass fibre wfp will feel like a feather.

This is not my experiance with a pressure set-up.The whole thing should be used with care but the results far outweigh any negativity of the process imo.
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 08, 2010, 07:53:58 pm
I use this set up regularly on domestic & considerably more on commercial works.

If you are worried aboutt chucking muck everywhere turn the revs down on the pressure washer!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 08, 2010, 08:38:06 pm
A lot of ppl use the gutter attachment with the normal 45deg nozzle in place,.. try using the soaper nozzle, there's still plenty enough power to move the debris in the gutter but it makes a lot less mess and its easier to control!
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Elginn on May 08, 2010, 09:42:54 pm
I seen a video posted on here by some time back and the guy was showing how to use the lance, I must say I didn't see and muck being blown any where because he cleaned before hand with a scoop and I didn't see the lance flying every where.
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 08, 2010, 09:59:00 pm
is this it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsmF7EN2FpU
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: daz1977 on May 09, 2010, 12:15:18 am
http://www.northerntooluk.com/pressure-washer-accessories/general-accessories/telescoping-wand-18m-73m_22824E.html

this lances, does any one know what power psi or bar is need to make it work properly also lpm
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: J-W-C on May 09, 2010, 02:56:33 am
Can you blast the soffits with vents?!
if the vents are new then it will not be a problem, we have done many of these jobs and old vents crumble into powder, treat with Caution
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on May 09, 2010, 04:46:04 am
just done a clean yesterday i took the end caps off and jetted the crap out either sides and wfp the facias down great job done  8)
Title: Re: telescopic lances
Post by: Elginn on May 09, 2010, 01:05:35 pm
is this it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsmF7EN2FpU
That's the one thanks  ;)