[stevie wonder]

Cleaned this dirty carpet today with my steampro,power burst and double clean.Dont knock the porties power.

[davep]

Not suprised it came up, Powerburst is ph 11 and double clean ph9.5

Not the safest of combinations 

Good chance of being sticky and resoiling quickly 

[stevie wonder]

It was a synthetic carpet,the same as my own lounge carpet .I use the same combination on that ,and havnt had any problems on that ,its still there mate.

[davep]

You need to get the carpet ph neutral after cleaning, clean it that way a few more times and you will get problems 

[spencer davies]

Quick fix cleaning, we used to clean carpets this way around ten years ago, results look good, but not for long.


S

[derek west]

not your night tonight stevie i'm with dave and spencer on this one, i could get a result with a mop and bucket with those chemicals.
derek

[John Gregory]

You need to get the carpet ph neutral after cleaning, clean it that way a few more times and you will get problems 

Sometimes you need to clean the carpet and get paid . did a full house today eot clean 100% wool berber , hammered  used blitz and formula 90 with a truckmount it still looked crap when I had finished but I got paid

John

[mark shannon]

Power Burst should do the job followed by acid rinse. Try HM CLEARWATER RINSE excellent economical acid rinse.

[stevie wonder]

Thanks  Mark I will try that.At the end of the day the carpet looked trashed,it came up 1000 %,I worked on it for a couple of hours and she didnt need to buy a new carpet, and she was very happy.All for 50 quid,and ready for her next dirty tenents

[spencer davies]

2 hrs work for £50    I think she may have got a bargain !

No offence meant.


S

[cleaningmaster]

I bought some powerburst last week following everyone on here harping on about it, was i dissapointed.
I used it on a 80/20 twist, light beige and was very greasy covered in black sticky marks.(almost black top) Rinsed with fab & fibre. i had a very poor result.
So i empted tank, made up a solution of Oneclean rinsed with this, then mist over with fab & fibre, and this was great, a really good result.

Yesterday used it on student let carpets( you all know what these are like)
rinsed with very hot water and again poor result
made up a solution of form90 and once again really good results :

Everone keeps banging on how good it is, but i seem to get better results from what iv been using before....Chemspec 321 and form90, chemspec oneclean traffic lane and oneclean powder.
It looks as if its the additive cleaning and not powerburst!!
I will keep on trying it but im not happy with it at the moment.

regards

[mark shannon]

Powerburst like most Prochem chems top notch IMO.

[richie]

Cleaningmaster,

I am amazed that you didnt get a result.  I have tried Powerburst on a range of carpets from £1.99sqm - £60sqm and NEVER had a poor result like you say you got unless the carpet had a variety of fruit juices, tea, coffee, curry on it.

Richie.

[cleaningmaster]

As i said i was really dissapointed
i know that there hasnt been a bad word against it.THATS WHY I BOUGHT SOME.
I was using a hydroforse and brushed it well in i dont understand what im doing wrong i dont think im doing anything wrong???
I feel as if i would have got the same result by just using form90!

Do you use an additive in the tank or just acid rinse?

Regards

Daryl

[garyfindlay]

did you spray it hot, aggitate and let it dwell?

[Timmy Boy]

I was cleaning a school over the past few days using powerburst and getting a reasonable result but I had a lot of blue tac to shift so I rung Prochem to see what I needed to shift it. They told me citrus gel and then pres spray with multipro. This suprised me but the chap said that powerburst is for food grease but multipro is better for foot traffic grease (he said one is for oily grease and the other for greasy soils - or something like that). I then extracted with fabric and fibre. Maybe trying this or trafficlean on your light carpets if you find powerburst is not up to scratch?
Regards
Tim

[John Kelly]

Its funny that some people can swear by a product whereas others just can't seem to get away with it. Its always been like that and always will. If not, everyone would use the same product and I would have one shelf in my showroom.
Use what you're happy with.

[markpowell]

Powerberst is great on greasy pub and restaurant carpets but if you have heavily soiled domestic carpets i would use trafficclean or pre-spray gold.
mark

[derek west]

prespray gold is a milder form of multi pro, i use the pre spray gold on wool to be safe and multi pro on man made, a good thing about multi pro is you can dilute it 1 to 8 for standard soilage and 1 to 4 for heavy. good stuff but expensive,
derek

[clinton]

Am with you there john

Have used the same chemical company for nany years as i know its limits and results

[spencer davies]

Also I think the degree of agitation is so important, we used to use a SEBO duo on domestic jobs but realized that it was far to lightweight, using a good quality ms with proper agitation always returns a superb result. We use an Enviro dri and more recently have switched to the Prochem Procaps machine.


S

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Spencer do you find the process now quicker?
Pre vac same in time, HWE possibly same in time but the procap machine means that you don't have to run infront spraying everything?

Shaun

[derek west]

so does the procap prespray and agitate at the same time. don't suppose it pre vacs aswell, now theres a machine,
derek

[cleaningmaster]

Gary
Yes water was very hot, aggitated and left to dwell for about 10-15 mins.
I used to use multi pro, traffic lane and pre spray gold (still use gold on uph) and got really good results.
Then i was told about chemspec, tried them and i have to say that i feel as if im getting the best results i ever have.
I may haqve to go back to pro chem as i get my TM in 3 weeks and i dont know if chemspec form90/oneclean will handle the heat, i`ll have to get on to them.
Any thoughts??
regards
Daryl

[carpet_care]

I use prochem powerburst with chemspec liquid high heat on just about every carpet job now and continually getting superb results.

 The two work great together with the prowler ,the alkalinity of powerburst and then the acid side rinsing properties of high heat are working really well together.


  Regards Andy Locke.

[cleaningmaster]

Thanks Andy
i`ll give it a go.
Do you use it on ALL carpets, wool and manmade?
Do you use a hyroforce?
Daryl

[carpet_care]

Yes I use it on just about all carpets dont believ all the woolsafe hype as long as you use arinse afterwards carpets will stand up too a fair bit of stick.

 I dont use ahydraforce I use a 10 litre gloria stainless steelsprayer.


  Regards Andy Locke.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Liquid High heat can be used as an acid rinse.

Shaun

[John Gregory]

I use prochem powerburst with chemspec liquid high heat on just about every carpet job now and continually getting superb results.

 The two work great together with the prowler ,the alkalinity of powerburst and then the acid side rinsing properties of high heat are working really well together.


  Regards Andy Locke.

Sounds a good combination is there a supplier that sells both products. so I can give it a try      John

[cleaningmaster]

Yes, ACS in Poole, Dorset

Daryl

[carpet_care]

Also John Kelly at Restormate, John and his wife Lynn are two of the most helpful and likeable people you could wish to meet.


 Regards Andy Locke.

[spencer davies]

Hello Shaun


Yes......quality agitation with pre spray, easy.

S

[Neil Williams]

You need to get the carpet ph neutral after cleaning, clean it that way a few more times and you will get problems 

Oh how views change over a couple of months.
I've seen some well known names on here stating that there was no need to acid rinse a synthetic carpet because it is synthetic, but with wool it is a 100% neccessity.
Make up your minds.

[Jim_77]

tides ebb and flow

[davep]

I made up my mind Neil.., leave it neutral 

[stevie wonder]

I think im going to soak a piece of wool carpet in ph12 solution for a few months ,and monitor the effects.What do you recon.

[Gerry Styles]

WHY NOT TRY IT IN SODIUM HYPOCHLORITE?

[Shaun_Ashmore]

If you use Acid rinse to neutralise then you have the chance to apply protector and it bonding properly.

Shaun

[Gerry Styles]

Procap is an encapusalion product which is fine for a maintenance clean. For a salvage clean which I believe (looking at the photos above those carpets would need) I would after PH test use an alkalinine prespray such as Power Burst and then rinse extract with an acid neutralizer such as Fibre & Fabric Rinse. After all you customr would be a lot happier giving you a call after 12 months than 1 month. Leaving a carpet with a high PH will ensure rapiid resoiling and a unhappy customer. After all A happy custome is a loyal customer and will call you instead of your competition.>>??

[stevie wonder]

Thanks Gerry.I think its about time I started neutralizing.It does seem the safest bet.Plus prochem fibre and fabric smells nice.

[Gerry Styles]

Good stuff Stevie, hang up the Dark Glasses, Stetson & Spurs