[tonner0]

Well, after a lot of thought I have decided to give the carpet cleaning network a chance. They have promised to get me 20 new jobs a month. I like the idea that I can cancel at any time, no contract. They are putting up two new websites for me ready for beginning of August. I am apprehensive but hopeful that it will work. They also promise that they will not work for any other carpet cleaner in my local area. I was surprised at the lack of response from the Hibu rep when I texted him to cancel our appointment as I didn't want to advertise with them for at least a couple of months. I didn't expect them to go down without a fight! But heard nothing at all. I shall put free listings in the book and on yell.com. I shall keep you posted as to how it is working, though different areas will presumably get different results.

[derek west]

Hibu have probably just signed you up anyway, they did me and just sent me the bill for £2000.

[davep]

Do you own the phone number and website they provide you?

[Oliver Beamer]

We have lots of clients on board now all across the UK.

Every single one of our clients is receiving on average 40 unique contacts per month and they are converting around 70% of these as an average.

The best part is, we can generate you the right type of customer you are looking for.

If it is of interest, give me a call on 01329 710 315 and i can show you the short 5 minute online demo we have.

[Mike Halliday]

Oliver how do you make your money on this ?

How about posting a link to the online demo.

I'm always skeptical about any thing that sound too good to be true, no costs ....cancel at any time..... free websites

[Craigp]

I take it its this site?

I see they popping up in all areas on adwords, same site but with local no. for each area, but no graphical address.

http://www.bristol-carpetcleaning.co.uk/carpet_cleaning.html

[Craigp]

Whats wrong with doing your own website and adwords?

[Oliver Beamer]

The online demo is something I have to talk you through - It wouldn't make a lot of sense otherwise!

If you have a spare 5 minutes at any point - Give me a quick call on 01329 710 315.

The demo doesn't tie you into anything - It is just some live examples and an outline of the package.

After that, I can get it all in an email for you so you can sit down and digest the information in your own time.

[tonner0]

In reply to Dave, no they own the website and phone number so they can monitor it, (keep track of how many calls and emails are coming through) and take it down if I no longer want it.  In answer to Craig, well I do have my own website but I honestly would not attempt Adwords on my own, too complicated for me to do it properly!

[Oliver Beamer]

Alternatively if you want a free report about your local area, click on www.carpetcleaningnetwork.co.uk and there is a short form on the front you can fill in to get your free report.

It will show you the level of business available in your area.

[garry22]

I take it its this site?

I see they popping up in all areas on adwords, same site but with local no. for each area, but no graphical address.

http://www.bristol-carpetcleaning.co.uk/carpet_cleaning.html

Craig, that site is sending the leads to a company called Advantex in Bristol. Do you know them?

[Craigp]

Yes, he's been around quite a while and is an fellow NCCA member.

How did you know where the leads went?

I guess that's Bristol taken then, not that I would do it, I do my own adwords when needed.

[Melissa Edwards]

Sorry, really not seeing the benefit in this. Unless you absolutely can't get your head around adwords or choose not to pay a company a small management fee, it seems like you'd just be diluting your own efforts. Or am I missing the point?! 

[creighton foyle]

Sorry, really not seeing the benefit in this. Unless you absolutely can't get your head around adwords or choose not to pay a company a small management fee, it seems like you'd just be diluting your own efforts. Or am I missing the point?!  

i think thats all they are is an adwords management company. they basically set up a satellite website charge £500 set up costs (less 20% for ciu members) and £100 pm management fee's plus whatever your pay per click costs are on top.

i talked to oliver today and he ran me through it but even if i wanted it my area is taken.

i think the costs are quite high but maybe i don't quite understand the power of a well positioned website.

[dan paton]

Oliver what if someone lives in a big city like London, Birmingham, Glasgow etc . How can you guarantee getting that site to the top of Google rankings?  Also are you guaranteeing the £££s of the 20 jobs a month. Too much here that doesn't add up 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Perhaps it's not for everyone but it does sound ethical if they guarantee 20 leads a month.

Shaun

[Hilton]

Well let's hear from those that are on it, before we start tearing it apart.
I am sure those that are will be along to tell us how well or otherwise it works.

[Melissa Edwards]

Hi Shaun. I also believe that it's ethical.

But, it's also pretty straightforward to generate 20 leads per month via adwords.

The true value or otherwise of this service will be in the actual paid cost per lead. If they can actually provide these leads at a saving compared to running your won adwords account or as opposed to paying a small management fee to one of many adwords companies, then it has some merit.

Although, in my opinion, there is a potential problem and a disconnect between the website and therefore company, that the customer initially makes contact with, and the company (your business) who follows up on the lead. There's certainly a chance of confusion and a potential of the lead running scared.

It does appear a targeted form of adwords management. If I'm wrong, Oliver, please correct me.

[Melissa Edwards]

Thanks Creighton.

Oliver, is the website marketed purely via adwords?

[Mike Halliday]

Oliver cannot answer as his membership is on hold until he contacts the admin regards joining CIU as a sponsor

[Melissa Edwards]

Ah, ok. Love your van, Mike! 

[Oliver Beamer]

To answer everyone's questions -

Any one can run Adwords, I agree.

The key to our business is we are a Google Adwords partner - we also have Google Adwords professionals that work within our business.

 We work on the campaigns every day to ensure you are always at the number 1 spot (depending on agreed budget).

We also drive down the cost per click for your Adwords daily while also increasing your organic position - We can do this quickly and cost effectively because it is our only focus as a business.

The main reason why a lot of carpet cleaners are using us is because we charge such a small management fee to look after everything professionally for you.

You have to ask yourself:

If you are running Adwords - Do you check them every day and do you see a month by month increase in results even though your costs are going down? - Our clients do.

If you are not running Adwords - Do you have the time to check them everyday and manage them? - I can ensure you that you will not be the only person in you area running Adwords which means it can be hard to secure that top spot.

This campaign is also not just about Adwords - We have proven websites that are converting 1 in 2 of every person that lands on it into a contact - Extremely high!

I know I keep going on about it but it would be a massive benefit if you saw the demo - It is all well and good trying to piece everything together from the forum but the demo can show you the true value of this product.

I am contactable on 01329 710 315 until 5pm.

The demo is not going to tie you into anything - it is there only to show you how this works.

[Oliver Beamer]

One last thing -

We are the Carpet Cleaning Network - A specialist marketing company for carpet cleaners.

We are not like your every day Hibu & Thompson etc

[creighton foyle]

further to my last post i also believe this is an ethical company but as with all other companies you have to take what they say on trust, they take your money up front and if they do not deliver what they say they can you do not get a refund and they have still had your money, you are the only loser.

i would love to find a marketing company that got paid on results and not promises.

[garry22]

Oliver, I'm sure you are very keen for this to succeed. When we are desperate for something to succeed, we sometimes get carried away.

People in our business have been caught out before and are naturally wary of anyone offering fantastic results (even if they are completely ethical in their approach).

In view of this, is there anything you have said here or on your website that you feel needs to be moderated or clarified?

[Oliver Beamer]

If you have any questions, please email me - oliver.beamer@carpetcleaningnetwork.co.uk

[garry22]

I won't waste your time as I will not be using you for Adwords, internet marketing or any other marketing.

I'm surprised that you are bothering with carpet cleaners. With 50% conversions from cold visitors, you could make a fortune doing cosmetic dentistry, weight loss or mesothelioma niches. That's where the huge payoffs are.

[benny d]

I found this, seems like the same set up for MoT Garages. Done a few years ago.

http://prezi.com/ihetoqdom3dw/mot-sales/

PS - The site made me giddy, so watch out..!

[garry22]

motsales.co.uk was the original template which spawned

digitalincubator.co  which led to

carpetcleaningnetwork.co.uk  rolled out like mot sales co uk

Nothing wrong in repeating a formula

[Simon Gerrard]

So is anyone on here using this scheme?

Simon

[Buckland]

Simon - yes good question be interesting to hear from them - presumably the people in the links under OB's posts - ie: Bristol, Llanelli, Cheltenham, West Lothian, Solihull, Newcastle

[Richard Cole]

Just checked how my adwords advert is and see they are in my area, Banbury and are showing up as number 2.  What is really annoying is that its a landing page built by the Carpet Cleaning Network and it could be one of my local competitors or someone just covering the area from miles away, no address given to say if local or not. Personally i never deal with anyone who hides who they are.

[Mike Halliday]

i think thats all they are is an adwords management company. they basically set up a satellite website charge £500 set up costs (less 20% for ciu members) and £100 pm management fee's plus whatever your pay per click costs are on top.


£500 then a £100 a month plus click cost,  how is this cheaper than doing it yourself?

Unless you don't have a website or are completely clueless about adwords ( but then you could pay yourselves the £500 to take a few days of work to learn about adwords)

[Hilton]

I'm not sure about this oufit or its costs but sometimes its much more sensible to out source things you are not competent at or that take you away from your business.

If I was doing an adwords campaign I would defiantly pass it on to experts in that field as I am sure they would have a better grasp on whats required and know how to best place it to best effect than I certainly would.

[Mike Halliday]

I spent 12 yrs passing on leather cleaning, I was under the assumption it was beyond me and too technical/difficult

Now it's nearly the easiest money I make, I think Adwords is the same

Limited Geographical area, each keyword having its own campaign, setting the timing & days the advert show etc

It's only seems difficult when you don't know how to do it, I have a limited knowledge but it stops me getting huge bills and makes my advert do what I want.

[derek west]

i was paying a professional to do my adwords campaign, then decided to look into doing it myself, bought a great book and read it, had a look at the professionals campaign and it was a complete joke. anyone can say they are an expert at adwords and if you haven't got a clue then you'll believe them. after reading the book i got someelse in to do a new campaign and guess what, they were a joke as well. first carpet cleaning campaign they did went straight to my home page when it should of gone straight to my carpet cleaning page. sacked them as well.

my advice, buy a book on adwords, watch a few videos, and then either do it yourself or get someone in to do it but at least if you do the latter, you know what questions to ask and you can pop in and check on the campaign as its being built.

Adwords is actually relatively easy to do, i'm now doing my own campaigns, building them slowly and right. and actually enjoying it.

[creighton foyle]

derek what was the title of the book you bought ?.

[derek west]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultimate-Guide-Google-AdWords-Million-ebook/dp/B008FOSH8K/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406897400&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=adwords+perry+marshal

[Ian Gourlay]

I spent 12 yrs passing on leather cleaning, I was under the assumption it was beyond me and too technical/difficult

Now it's nearly the easiest money I make, I think Adwords is the same

Limited Geographical area, each keyword having its own campaign, setting the timing & days the advert show etc

It's only seems difficult when you don't know how to do it, I have a limited knowledge but it stops me getting huge bills and makes my advert do what I want.

I always felt and all due respects to her as she knows her stuff made it more complicated than it is. That said i have a major problem on my own suite.  Think I need to see if Judy can help, as if it was a customers it would be very scary.

[JandS]

You get the book or the kindle version derek....sometimes find books like these are better in bookform than on kindle

[derek west]

still a real book person so book for me.

[garry22]

I've bought his Adwords manual about five years ago. It's about three inches thick in a ring binder. Expensive but worth every penny. It's everything Google Adwords don't want you to know.