[John Kelly]

Where do you get the idea you have to acid rinse Powerburst and not Shockwave. They are both ph11. You acid rinse to neutralise the alkalinity.

[richie]

i was about to say the same John. 

[Fran84]

Where do you get the idea you have to acid rinse Powerburst and not Shockwave. They are both ph11. You acid rinse to neutralise the alkalinity.

Here Here!!

Acid rinse should be used with both of them. I use both and actually prefer shockwave on more oily/greasy carpets.

Fran

[M.Acorn]

Says on the tub plain water rinse.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Remember pH is a logarithmic scale, which means PH 11 is 100 times more alkaline than pH 9, so a little weak acid is going to make very little differnce.

Volume of rinsing is far more important.

Cheers

Doug

[Russ Chadd]

Acid rinse on synthetic carpet tiles?

[M.Acorn]

Well I have been doing the place every 6 weeks for the last couple of years, it's a garage, a very busy garage, thick oil all over reception and office area, like I sad got mechanics walking all over it as I am cleaning it, it took me a good long time to get it anywhere near acceptable, due to the oil being so thick, tiles are synthetic and it gets a very good flush as I am having to make quite a few wet passes to make any difference, owner is happy and he uses me for all his rental properties so I am happy.

[John Kelly]

An acid rinse when appropriate. Mainly on wool carpets if that product has been used to obtain a result. It doesn't just help neutralise the alkaline but leave the fibres with a nice hand (soft).

Fair point Doug, great if you have a high power porty or truckmount but there are still thousands of cleaners out there using 100psi machines. There is no way they can provide enough flushing action.

[wynne jones]

All the courses I have been on talk about acid rinse. I did it for years. Spend a week using a roll of litmus tape on a carpet after you have pre sprayed it and worked it in, and then after you have wanded it.

Then make your own mind up whether you need acid rinse to neutralise the ph.

[james roffey]

Silly question but how are you mixing the stuff?
I have never had any problems with Shockwave as long as i gently add it to a bucket of hot water whilst stirring.
 

Has nothing to do with the mixing, i always mix like that but loads of this orange sandy stuff in it that wont dissolve, your mix must be very different, blocks my jets up on sprayer have to clean it every time i use it.
It would seem that my batch must be different, i am concerned that something is in mine that shouldn't be

[Joe W Brown]

I've been using shockwave with Orion sprayer for a good few weeks now and not had much of a problem. Recently there was a slight block, but it unblocked easily (unscrewed the end to the sprayer, gave it a spray, screwed it back on) and has been fine since.

I've had great results with shockwave and get lots of "wow"s.

[Fran84]

Straight from the horses mouth (sorry Nick)

'The Brown specs are the enzyme which can take a little longer to dissolve than the powder,

Going to change the formulation slightly and make a broth of the enzyme and then coat the powder which should help it dissolve quicker.

Regards

Nick'

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Although enzymes are brilliant cleaning agents they have health issues, such as sensitisation of asthmatics.

I will use them as a problem solver but not as routine.

Why not just use the STTP, microsplitter of your choice and have a tub of enzyme prespray as back up?

Cheers

Doug

[Kriss]

I have the same problem with my shockwave. Dark bits which blocking my sprayer nozzle. Sample pack for you

[clive ware]

Yep. My gloria sprayer keeps getting blocked up. Starts off as a nice fan spray and within a couple of seconds, I get 2 v shaped  jets sqirting out!

[Paul Moss]

Enzymes desolve quite quick. What Nick is giving you are small amounts of gold nuggets in disguise. You should be collecting these up for xmas 

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

The fact that enzymes are linked to many health issues is hardly new, I developed some products over 25 years ago and that was when, in discussion wth other chemists, who were much more knowledgeable than me, I became aware of the serious issues.

Just search the health issues of proteases, amylases and other enzymes.

It is a long time since I worked as an R&D chemist but things don't change that much.

Cheers

Doug

[wynne jones]

It's only the powder when dried that's a problem, so there really is no problem at all with enzymes... unless you don't extract thoroughly.

Certainly a no no for padders.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

What people don't understand about enzymes is that they act as catalysts and only a very small amount is required to potentially cause a problem, obviously a thorough extraction will remove more but I would think it just about impossible to remove all.

washing powder manufacurers had to modify the form of the enzymes so as to lessen problems.

Cheers

Doug

[Craigp]

Prochem stopped doing their enyzeme prespray product about 8 years ago because of the health issues. I was told at the time the same reason doug said, asthma.

Powerburst was then born! Powerburst was its successor, although it was called something else first, can't remember the name now.

I have used PB ever since the eyzeme went.