kcscleaning

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Taurma Cleaning
« on: May 06, 2010, 10:26:56 am »
Looking to go on a Taurma Cleaning course.

Any one recommend one or is it worth it is there work out there?

Any help would be great

Thanks

Tim

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 12:03:25 pm »
Hi

Took my course 2 years ago in November, have yet to do any despite a ot of advertising.

Have priced a few but sadly people don't want to pay the bill and there are untrained people out there that will literally do it for £10 an hour.

Regards

Martin 8)

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 05:15:07 pm »
I'm trained - I have done a couple of pigeon guano jobs and I have a swimming pool to price for a steam clean tomorrow morning but I would'nt rush out and spend money getting trained as the works limited as Martins post. If things get regulated it would be a different case but I doubt if things will ever be like that. TRAUMA not taurma

Platinum

Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 12:27:51 pm »
Where would you get the work from?

Platinum

Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2010, 12:28:32 pm »
You wouldnt be directly employed by the police would you?

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 06:21:47 pm »
Hi

They are not allowed to promote any one company

Martin 8)

lesterM

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 08:44:40 pm »
Crimne scene cleanin.....Cut out the middleman. Go straight to the criminal. Many crimes are not reported but often need cleaning.
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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 07:31:37 pm »
you must also consider what you are walking into, dirty protests or blood ridges like jelly waiting for you in the shape of the corpse and the smells ( which anyone who has done a few will tell you about until they buy a tub of vaseline !), none of which are particularly nice. the money is good, the work is sporadic at best.
 a  few hours with your nose stuck in a blood borne pathogen book will determine whether you fancy it or not.
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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 09:00:44 pm »
Hi

Spot on.

To see how I would feel, I made something to eat (a couple of runny fried egg sarnies will be sufficient) and watched all the crime scene vids on you tube, as I didn't even flinch, I took that as a good sign, been to price a few and I just see it as molcules.

but as I stated earlier, you will put in a proper price and they will get some lady or bloke in for £10 an hour.

Last one I priced up was a 7 week decomp (after being burnt to death) , when asked how much, she visibly paled when I mentioned what it might come too. Low and behold someone else got it.

Regards

Martin 8)

Londoner

Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 07:15:15 am »
I have posted on this subject a couple of times and I must seem really down on the subject but in my experience of several council flats where people have died and not been found for a while the job of cleaning out the flats was just done by ordinary council workmen.

When the old guy over the road from me died a couple of years back I think the house was pretty unpleasant. He was a recluse and rarely went out. Anyway, a few weeks later a skip appeared in the drive and a couple of Eastern European men just chucked everything in the skip.

I really don't think there is any real work out there to be had, certainly not regular work.

All of this started a few years back after a TV series about a team in LA who used to do clean up for the LAPD but the equivilent doesn't exist over here.

Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 08:06:14 pm »
hi,

i have done the national academy of crime scene cleaning, N.A.C.S.C.  dont do it, there is something big around the corner that will shake up the industry so keep you eyes open, do not do any courses at the moment, im not sure about the BBRA course as i havent done it,

PM me if you would like to know more as this is too public and its hush hush at the moment but it will come out soon and the industry needs to be weary


thanx

Powerwasher

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 08:51:32 am »
Castle, there is no PM facility on this forum ;D   ....(never understood why, other cleaning forums do it..)

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 08:59:58 pm »
hi,

i have done the national academy of crime scene cleaning, N.A.C.S.C.  dont do it, there is something big around the corner that will shake up the industry so keep you eyes open, do not do any courses at the moment, im not sure about the BBRA course as i havent done it,

PM me if you would like to know more as this is too public and its hush hush at the moment but it will come out soon and the industry needs to be weary


thanx

Hey Castle ,

Thanks for the heads up......... it does look pretty solid at first glance so I will see how this progresses over the next few weeks.   I agree it's what is very much needed to stop the cowboys driving the prices down and putting themselves at risk.   

I was talking to a guy down south and he went to the states, he came back and he lost two thirds of his business due these cowboys... that THINK they are trained.

There is definitely the work there however, it does need to be allocated in a responsible way.  What i can see is a natural staging process within this type of industry.   I am very intrigued, you have my phone number don't hesitate in calling me with any updates day or night.

Cheers

richywilts

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 09:20:06 am »
Crimne scene cleanin.....Cut out the middleman. Go straight to the criminal. Many crimes are not reported but often need cleaning.

lol but ya are right haha
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Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2010, 06:48:34 pm »
hi choca

im glad someone is seeing it my way, anyway, ive said what i needed on the nacsc forum and i don't think they liked what i said, because i have now been kicked from the academy and got to take all the logos off my stuff, ie websites and stationary, i dont think i said anyhting out of place but only the truth, and i was persacuted for it, i know how bill clinton feels now. lol

anyway onwards and upwards,

watch this space

sionara jonny

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 07:20:32 pm »
hi choca

im glad someone is seeing it my way, anyway, ive said what i needed on the nacsc forum and i don't think they liked what i said, because i have now been kicked from the academy and got to take all the logos off my stuff, ie websites and stationary, i dont think i said anyhting out of place but only the truth, and i was persacuted for it, i know how bill clinton feels now. lol

anyway onwards and upwards,

watch this space

sionara jonny

Jonny sorry to hear,  im sure there will soon be more members that get the boot also.
i did some research on your man just out of curiosity,  what i found was that he is an advisor to sky news! now i might be wrong but i dont think sky news listens to any tom dick or harry  :D
I do like the what i am seeing so far pal,  he does seem more than adequately equipped to get this section of the industry sorted out, and thats another thing i like about it its not just crime scene cleaning!!!! its the full range of hazmat!! which would be very handy to learn about i particularly like the "out break control" and the "ventilation & duct work cleaning" in fact the crime stuff doesn't seem such a big thing to me any more  ;D

cheers

Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 07:43:32 pm »
hi choca,

yes looking forward to be working with this guy and im sure he has more knowledge of the industry under one fingernail compare to most of the people doing this type of work,

this industry will be shaken and not stirred, and will be turned  inside out,  i dont want to say too much at the moment but im sure it will be a shock to all that have spent all the money like i have in training and to establish an extreme cleaning service to find out that you cant do nothing with it, because without this this fellas aproval and standard you will be under trained regardless of how much you know.
so  :-X

nathann

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 08:15:53 pm »
Hi,

Would you be talking about Geoff. C.


Nathan.
British Biohazard Recovery Association (BBRA)

Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 08:40:02 pm »
hi nat

no matey not him but i know who your talking about though

cheers jonny

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 08:48:38 pm »
Hi,

Would you be talking about Geoff. C.


Nathan.

yes m8 thats the fella. johnny must be confused with the spelling of his name.??? im even more confused now.
i think you are the fella that we was supposed to meet on saturday? we would still like to find out about your course, however my attention has been brought to geoff and his credentials do you work with him or has he had any imput into your course any help would be greatly appreciated. how did your body job go? ;)

nathann

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2010, 08:59:06 pm »
Hi,

The job was a pain  ;) but all done now.

No i dont work with him, the last i heard of jeff he was writing a syllabus etc for some people  ;)

Nathan
British Biohazard Recovery Association (BBRA)

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2010, 09:10:36 pm »
Good to hear lad ........ good to hear. keep up the good work!

Regards

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2010, 09:15:41 pm »
Hi

Castle I did send you a quick email to see what all this coded talk was all about but not sure if you have recieved it or if you don't want to say anymore?

Yes the industry needs changing, tired of quoting for this work to then see it go to the £10 p/h bodge it 'n leg it lot.

Don't agree it should go as far as only 1 person can say if you are qualified enough or not, that's too extreme, bordering on ridiculous.

Regards

Martin 8)

Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 01:22:51 pm »
hi martin

you have mail

cheers jonny

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 02:03:48 pm »
I do

Thanks  ;)

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2010, 10:09:26 pm »
Hi

Castle I did send you a quick email to see what all this coded talk was all about but not sure if you have recieved it or if you don't want to say anymore?

Yes the industry needs changing, tired of quoting for this work to then see it go to the £10 p/h bodge it 'n leg it lot.

Don't agree it should go as far as only 1 person can say if you are qualified enough or not, that's too extreme, bordering on ridiculous.

Regards

Martin 8)

It aint no secret...... see for yourself www.bradi.org but keep it under your hat please :-X

im still none the wiser myself but hey hoe

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2010, 07:17:50 am »
I just lost another one yesterday, blood all over the hard floor, vomit all over the sink and diaohhrea all over the toilet, quoted and lost 1/2 an hour later as apparently social Services will sort it?

Hopefully it will get regulated shortly and we can then proceed in a professional manner?

Regards

Martin 8)

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2010, 10:28:45 am »
Sorry to hear that you lost out, to what only i could describe as a lesser technician . i was speaking with pinnacle in dorset and he says he has lost 2 3rds of his buisness to some girls that are picking the work up from the council. as they are willing to clean blood for 50 quid !. i have had  a lengthy conversation with Jeff Charlton the founder of bradi.org and nathan bbra, they do seem to be going all out with getting the bar raised i can not fault what both Jeff and Nathan have said to me which is easy as i have very little knowledge of the industry but what i do see is that nathan has acsess to many operatives whereas Jeff seems to very qualified and equipped to speak at the highest levels so this should mean good news for all honest law abiding workers . i have been very confused with the industry of late in the way of which route to take in getting suitably trained i have read about Lawrence mitchell and he is very knowledegable so it was a close call weather to join bbra or bradi both are free but in my opinion the bradi.org website has nicer colours ;D sorry change your colours and i will join  :)
Keep up the good work .

Regards

nathann

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2010, 09:16:08 am »
Quote
the bradi.org website has nicer colours  sorry change your colours and i will join   

I hope it works out for you chocabloc  :)

Nathan
British Biohazard Recovery Association (BBRA)

BDCS

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 12:36:32 pm »
Ben should join the thread and it would be one happy decomposing family ;D

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2010, 07:17:08 pm »
Thanks nathan. i have just been on the bradi website and see it is now a partner with corgi ! i am not to clued up on corgi however i though corgi was a gas thing nether the less still got to be a good thing i would of thought 

nathann

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2010, 07:28:50 pm »
Hi,

All CORGI is really, is to say your commitment to high quality work within your trade and excellent customer service etc.

Nathan
British Biohazard Recovery Association (BBRA)

Jonny jones

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2010, 12:10:49 pm »
hi

im glad that the corgi has been partnered with bradi, it will now show customers that they are serious about their work, and also all we need now is government backing to stop these councils and other authorities taking on cowboys and getting thier non qualified staff doing the dirty work, as martin has fond out

the future looks bright for the industry

good work jeff charlton and bradi

thanx jonny

chocabloc

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2010, 08:15:37 pm »
hi

im glad that the corgi has been partnered with bradi, it will now show customers that they are serious about their work, and also all we need now is government backing to stop these councils and other authorities taking on cowboys and getting thier non qualified staff doing the dirty work, as martin has fond out

the future looks bright for the industry

good work jeff charlton and bradi

thanx jonny

Hi johnny

after reading some articles about jeff i feel he can get the goverment to sit up and take notice from what i can gather he know the right people in the right places.

cheers

murky

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2010, 06:12:09 pm »
Hi,

Just cruising through old stuff here, but all you guys that do trauma cleanups etc are registered, use COSSH sheets, PPE, method stements etc etc. These 'east europeans' or 'girls' that are doing your work presumable arent.

Surely all you have to do is go to the local council and show them your expertise in what you do. If it was me I would call the 'elf and safety man when they nick a job off you, tell him whats going on and you would get all the work you want then

If these 'other' contractors whatever they are have to show the council their creditability and expertise to do the work. If they fall over, cut themselves, get blood poisoning etc etc they will be seriously ill and what then.

The council or who ever these days has a duty of care to check on them. You cant work in a school with out a CRB check so how can you work in a trauma scene clear up without being checked out. You couldnt just put an 18 year old kid in there and tell him to get on with it, you would be in court in days! Which is exactly what your opposition is doing and the council or whoever is condoning.

I did a BDMA course in fire and flood damage years ago, it was what the industry requires as a minimum to work for the Insurance companies. Although my membership has now lapsed I can still say with knowledge that 'anything damaged by black or grey water after x days has to be removed and  cant be cleaned' surely the same applies with blood, carsogens etc and all the cr@p that you have to clean up.

For my tenpennuth when we did a fire or flood in a  pub or shop or where there was food etc I would allways ask the Environment man to come down and check our work at the end. If he signed it off we were all happy and so was the Loss Adjuster and Ins Co etc and most of all they could start trading again. If these 'other people' clean and granny goes down with food poisoning after not been cleaned properly who is to blame?

Good luck with it anyway.

Murky

The Great One

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Re: Taurma Cleaning
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2010, 08:44:22 pm »
Hi

We hear where you are coming from, but at the moment it is 'unregulated' so as hard as it is to believe you don't need to be trained to clean it up.

Those of us that care and want to be professional are outpriced by those that don't care less, and them & those that are paying the bill are depressing the market.

i priced an attempted suicide a few months back, priced £600.

The landlord didn't want to pay it and neither did the insurance company, somebody did it, but as they hadn't been trained, they missed a bit, where a child could easily get to it.

Regards

Martin 8)