P @ F

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2020, 12:32:08 pm »
Even if the cheaper springs were used on all further Univalves I would not have an issue

What I would like to see is a service kit from Exceed that consisted of the 2 o rings and spring , do that once a year and every customer is happy and Steve still has an ongoing income
I for one would happily pay £10 plus delivery for it  ;D ;D ;D

Could either of these be suitable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wire-Dia-1mm-Compression-Spring-Stainless-Steel-Pressure-Spring-Various-Sizes/274072673263?var=574155317537&hash=item3fd0011bef:m:mrNCwInmCRWC1j2OU2fjX4g

1 x 10 x 25
or
1 x 10 x 30.
That would be bang on !
I will order some of each size now , I did see a couple of other sellers yesterday that are not away on hols though
Just got to find the o rings now  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Lee GLS

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2020, 12:34:53 pm »
Even if the cheaper springs were used on all further Univalves I would not have an issue

What I would like to see is a service kit from Exceed that consisted of the 2 o rings and spring , do that once a year and every customer is happy and Steve still has an ongoing income
I for one would happily pay £10 plus delivery for it  ;D ;D ;D

Could either of these be suitable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wire-Dia-1mm-Compression-Spring-Stainless-Steel-Pressure-Spring-Various-Sizes/274072673263?var=574155317537&hash=item3fd0011bef:m:mrNCwInmCRWC1j2OU2fjX4g

1 x 10 x 25
or
1 x 10 x 30.

I placed and order for both sizes yesterday  ;D

Lee GLS

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2020, 12:36:07 pm »
Found these as well yesterday, they would probably work the 8mm or 8.4mm

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292626136398

Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2020, 01:55:25 pm »
Found these as well yesterday, they would probably work the 8mm or 8.4mm

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292626136398

I couldn't find a supplier when I looked a while back for these.

I did look this am
 
http://www.rhondamaseals.co.uk

http://www.rhondamaseals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ORING_SIZES.pdf

Their part no BS1086-203

Sizes aren't exactly as P&F measurements but his may have worn and stretched slightly. When I measured mine a couple of years back I recorded this; It looks like the o Ring is a Nitrile 70, 7.5mm id x 3.7mm cross section.
 
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Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2020, 01:56:49 pm »
Even if the cheaper springs were used on all further Univalves I would not have an issue

What I would like to see is a service kit from Exceed that consisted of the 2 o rings and spring , do that once a year and every customer is happy and Steve still has an ongoing income
I for one would happily pay £10 plus delivery for it  ;D ;D ;D

Could either of these be suitable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wire-Dia-1mm-Compression-Spring-Stainless-Steel-Pressure-Spring-Various-Sizes/274072673263?var=574155317537&hash=item3fd0011bef:m:mrNCwInmCRWC1j2OU2fjX4g

1 x 10 x 25
or
1 x 10 x 30.

I placed and order for both sizes yesterday  ;D

What we don't know is the tensile strength of these springs so it will be a suck it and see situation. Please let us know how they turn out.
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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2020, 02:36:23 pm »
Don’t forget my vernier is a Halfords cheapie  :D
It may well pay to get a pack of the very short springs as well to beef it up or mix and match for the correct return rate to shut the valve again
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2020, 03:12:27 pm »
Don’t forget my vernier is a Halfords cheapie  :D
It may well pay to get a pack of the very short springs as well to beef it up or mix and match for the correct return rate to shut the valve again

In a way I was hoping that these springs would be weaker than the originals. My fingers aren't 'clamping' onto the pole hose as firmly as they used to so I'm not finding it as easy to operate the Univalve these days.

I have even considered going back to a spare Aquadapter I have from the 'good old days' as its easier to operate.

Back to the Univalve. I would think that a slightly weaker spring wouldn't create too much of an issue shutting the water off as the plunger closes with the flow of water and the pressure will seal the valve against it's seat.
 
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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2020, 04:01:39 pm »
Saw these earlier , there are 2 sizes in the pack that look very close to the smaller Univalve o ring  ;D

https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/garage-equipment/fuses-electricals-fixings/halfords-assorted-o-rings
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

david mark

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2020, 04:08:19 pm »
I use a square shaped stainless steel 1/4'' ball valve  inlet  male Rectus to
Female Rectus outlet I made my own bracket to clip on the bottom of the pole they last 4 to 5 years  this valve is made in U.S.A but I designed my own bracket and adjustable clamp to fit various diameter pole widths

Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2020, 07:14:46 pm »
I use a square shaped stainless steel 1/4'' ball valve  inlet  male Rectus to
Female Rectus outlet I made my own bracket to clip on the bottom of the pole they last 4 to 5 years  this valve is made in U.S.A but I designed my own bracket and adjustable clamp to fit various diameter pole widths

Son in law decided that the Aquadapter wasn't 'his cup of tea' back when he worked for us.  He purchased a tap and bracket from Purefreedom which he praised. When I used his pole on one occasion I couldn't get on with the loop this created when the pole wasn't fully extended.

https://purefreedom.co.uk/product/pole-flow-control-valve-new-design/

The older I get the more cynical I get. They describe it as a new design. What was wrong with the old one?
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dennis chalk

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2020, 10:54:17 am »
Inside of one that’s just given up

P @ F

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2020, 05:34:08 pm »
With a good clean and blob of silicone grease that might go again if the spring hasn’t broken, but that spring is definitely poor quality at its best !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2020, 05:36:35 pm »
Sure it isn’t a liquorice lace in there  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

G Griffin

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2020, 06:47:44 pm »
Don’t forget my vernier is a Halfords cheapie  :D
It may well pay to get a pack of the very short springs as well to beef it up or mix and match for the correct return rate to shut the valve again
What about using the Vernier to pinch the hose?
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AuRavelling79

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2020, 02:33:03 pm »
A 'report to moderator' has come through about this thread.

A question I would like to ask before taking any action is if the OP has contacted the manufacturerer before starting this thread?
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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2020, 03:41:54 pm »
I have just had a call from Steve , we are currently discussing what to do about this post , I will update when I hear from him in a minute !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2020, 04:17:23 pm »
Steve is more than happy to leave the thread live as he has just sorted my issue with the spring , he said it was borderline with the expected life service of said spring.
He also did point out that any issues a customer might get would be looked into as long as it’s not blatant misuse .

I don’t suppose you could ask any more from a supplier , thanks Steve for the outcome.

MODS , I will leave the choice of if the thread  stays or goes to you , as I am unsure of if it will do more harm than good in the long run
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2020, 05:18:59 pm »
There was drama with springs on the Aquadaptor. Steve had 2 spare part springs on the go at one time. The stainless steel springs were brittle and broke sooner than their perceived life expectation and the galvanised steel ones did the same.

We still have an Aquadaptor on one of the poles and that spring has been in there for years. I think it a stainless steel spring as the galvanised ones show outer corrosion.

Aquadapter spring broke on Friday. It was a galvanised one.  ;D
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Spruce

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Re: Exceed Univalve , THE BIG CON !
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2020, 05:21:40 pm »
A 'report to moderator' has come through about this thread.

A question I would like to ask before taking any action is if the OP has contacted the manufacturerer before starting this thread?

If he had contacted Steve first then we would all be none the wiser about the 'issue.'
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

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Re: Exceed Univalve , UPDATE
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2020, 05:30:48 pm »
Mine is still like new Spruce  :D ;D ;D

I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !