[Dave Anderson]

Been doing this wfp lark for a few years now and ok I am approaching my 49th birthday and find that each day my body is so very tired.... Given that most of us are pretty much 'self-taught' using wfp do you think you really have a handle on how much to scrub i.e effort etc?

I suppose we have all seen the superfast YOUTUBE cleans where window and frames get a quick lick and ta-dah... Supershiney but to be honest in the real world I doubt it would cut the mustard.

Now I would consider myself pretty fit & healthy.... run between 50 to 90 km's per week,  do crossfit,  light kettlebell work out before & after work to get my muscles warmed up and eat very healthy.

Poles...SLX and light brushes , 8 weekly cleans, even made a super-small pole for bottoms with a mk1 slx.

Rather than anyone feeling the need to tell me I am doing the whole thing wrong :-) would love to hear from those who have experienced this and made changes and how they have helped.

Anyone feeling it ?

[jonboywalton75]

Yeah
I'm 60

[Shrek]

Yeah , sometimes I do think to myself I start scrubbing and rinsing to much . So to remind me of how to do it , I always refer back to how the pro does it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YO2n4YbwdEA

[Dry Clean]

I'm roughly 14 years wfp and can definitely feel its effects on my body the neck pain is the worst.

[Shrek]

Been doing this wfp lark for a few years now and ok I am approaching my 49th birthday and find that each day my body is so very tired.... Given that most of us are pretty much 'self-taught' using wfp do you think you really have a handle on how much to scrub i.e effort etc?

I suppose we have all seen the superfast YOUTUBE cleans where window and frames get a quick lick and ta-dah... Supershiney but to be honest in the real world I doubt it would cut the mustard.

Now I would consider myself pretty fit & healthy.... run between 50 to 90 km's per week,  do crossfit,  light kettlebell work out before & after work to get my muscles warmed up and eat very healthy.

Poles...SLX and light brushes .....

Anyone feeling it ?

Maybe your working out TOO much and your body hasn't got time to recover, it might not be anything to do with wfp

[8weekly]

I'm roughly 14 years wfp and can definitely feel its effects on my body the neck pain is the worst.

Yes, been working a good few hours the last few weeks and the neck is suffering.

[Tony dunmall]

Yep as little as possible, sometime brush on glass sometimes off, try to let brush do the job for me

8 weekly work will possibly take longer to scrub clean, my twelve weekly take more energy

I sometime save water and ernergy and change movement by using cloth on downstairs sills as I find sill can often take to many a movement when a cloth is quicker

Trouble is, this job can make you tired  it's similar movements all day, bracing your body as we push lots of side ways movements, you'd think we'd be some super fit fitness instructor, sad reality is, wfp takes its toll as we get older

I too stretch before work and after normally 10-15 mins I'll also go to allotment,all different movements,i don't get tired from work, as I'm not into long days, just aches more sometime hurts

[dazmond]

Been doing this wfp lark for a few years now and ok I am approaching my 49th birthday and find that each day my body is so very tired.... Given that most of us are pretty much 'self-taught' using wfp do you think you really have a handle on how much to scrub i.e effort etc?

I suppose we have all seen the superfast YOUTUBE cleans where window and frames get a quick lick and ta-dah... Supershiney but to be honest in the real world I doubt it would cut the mustard.

Now I would consider myself pretty fit & healthy.... run between 50 to 90 km's per week,  do crossfit,  light kettlebell work out before & after work to get my muscles warmed up and eat very healthy.

Poles...SLX and light brushes , 8 weekly cleans, even made a super-small pole for bottoms with a mk1 slx.

Rather than anyone feeling the need to tell me I am doing the whole thing wrong :-) would love to hear from those who have experienced this and made changes and how they have helped.

Anyone feeling it ?

i reckon your exercising too much and need more rest between your workouts/running sessions.your not 25 anymore.listen to your body instead of pushing it to the limit.

im 45 and workout 3 times a week(weights and cardio).sometimes i do 4 workouts a week if i get time but TBH its too much with my busy workload,gigs,rehearsing(i play drums in a band) etc.i feel better working out less.if i feel really tired ill take a whole week off from the gym.

as for window cleaning.i too use SLX and xtreme poles and im like a well oiled machine in regards to working through my days work schedule.i very rarely actually work (on the glass time)more than 5 or 6 hours a day,4 or 5 days a week and have most weekends off.in fact i cant remember the last time i worked on a weekend.

i also have 2 weeks off at xmas,at least a few weeks break for holidays abroad and another couple of weeks for just chilling out/DIY jobs etc.

[dazmond]

Yep as little as possible, sometime brush on glass sometimes off, try to let brush do the job for me

8 weekly work will possibly take longer to scrub clean, my twelve weekly take more energy

I sometime save water and ernergy and change movement by using cloth on downstairs sills as I find sill can often take to many a movement when a cloth is quicker

Trouble is, this job can make you tired  it's similar movements all day, bracing your body as we push lots of side ways movements, you'd think we'd be some super fit fitness instructor, sad reality is, wfp takes its toll as we get older

I too stretch before work and after normally 10-15 mins I'll also go to allotment,all different movements,i don't get tired from work, as I'm not into long days, just aches more sometime hurts

i never stretch before and after work and i never do it before and after working out either and im fine.

its a myth that stretching does you any good anyway.in fact it could cause an injury.raising your core body temperature is more important.

[paul alan]

Been doing this wfp lark for a few years now and ok I am approaching my 49th birthday and find that each day my body is so very tired.... Given that most of us are pretty much 'self-taught' using wfp do you think you really have a handle on how much to scrub i.e effort etc?

I suppose we have all seen the superfast YOUTUBE cleans where window and frames get a quick lick and ta-dah... Supershiney but to be honest in the real world I doubt it would cut the mustard.

Now I would consider myself pretty fit & healthy.... run between 50 to 90 km's per week,  do crossfit,  light kettlebell work out before & after work to get my muscles warmed up and eat very healthy.

Poles...SLX and light brushes , 8 weekly cleans, even made a super-small pole for bottoms with a mk1 slx.

Rather than anyone feeling the need to tell me I am doing the whole thing wrong :-) would love to hear from those who have experienced this and made changes and how they have helped.

Anyone feeling it ?
Yes mate definately! Its a hard graft this game.

I have to adjust my working practices, the scrubbing is the killing point for me. The lest the best. I always carry some white top scourers in my pocket so if anything downstairs is a bit tougher to remove i do it with that instead, upstairs i have a gardiners scraper with a white top scourer ziptied on. Save on scrubbing. Also have  a 100ml bottle of virosol in my pouch so anything tough to remove should arise i will squeeze a bit on the brush and that helps too. I will "rinse on" on upstairs if they are hard work but not a massive fan of it.

Dave...have you revised the way you train lately? As we age our testosterone levels decline(testosterone gives us our strength and energy) google the effects of endurance training on testosterone, its realy bad. Google HIIT training also its shorter and way more effective and actualy helps with testosterone instead of killing it.

Read stuart mcroberts book called beyond brawn, its available as a free download pdf if you search it. Awesome book and its changed the way i now train for good. I have been training for 20 years and i can no longer train the way i used to, this book has been a massive help to my energy levels and vitality, if i would of kept up the way i trained i would be fxxcked for sure.
Also pay focused attention to REST i cant stress that enough.

Wfp is hard work i mean my neck is goosed but through smart management it can be alot easier, im still learning myself.

Whatch out for the scrubbing.

I cant clean windows in a flash as some claim, i have tried it and it doesnt clean up so well for me. But try to a little less on each window and by the end of the day it adds up.

Also i feel a lot less fatigue now i am no longer "hammering the herb" a lot less stress on my heart also as it puts 20-30 beats per minute on top of the usual. I have gone from an average of 90-100 bpm down to 60-70 bpm since i stopped.

Do you meditate? Google the benefits.

Stay healthy, live long and prosper.

[NWH]

Try pushing up to scrub and letting the pole slide through your hands on the way down so you have less up and down movements hot water helps no end

[NWH]

Early nights help i find more sleep for me means more energy next day I know it's an obvious statement but it's so true,I'll get away with 1-2 late nights after that I feel drained especially in the hotter weather.

[Michael Peterson]

Please dont take this the wrong way but i believe cross fit is heavly links with the paleo style diet? Mark sisson from the primal blue print talks about chronic cardio, the human body was designed to mainly amble, crawl , jump sometimes do short sprints and sometimes carry heavy thinks. I would definalty put it down to the amount of cardio you are doing, im not saying stop as i myself eaat this way and train twice a day 6 days a week and mark sisson was a marrathon runner. Also i stopped working on the glass not that long ago , get what, still tired and achy everyday!
What i would reccomend is take lots of omega 3 fish oil, and keep uour diet 100% but modify it.   Get carbs in after yor excersise and imcorporate a yoga program, yoga will help you massivly, look on youtube.  Training this much and you have to modify things my friend

[Michael Peterson]

Tosh is a guy i believe trains at a high level, he will have some tricks to reduce your fatigue !

[Michael Peterson]

With amount of activity you need some massive amounts of calories , i would look for the slowburning fats over the carbs

[jk999]

My thoughts is Alex spends to long on one Payne of glass lol 😁

[Soupy]

run between 50 to 90 km's per week,  do crossfit,  light kettlebell work out before & after work

Absolutely no idea why you'd be knackered.

None whatsoever.

[Og]

Go left handed every other day. Works for me.

[Tosh]

Go right handed every other day. Works for me.

[NWH]

Yoga stretches do work wonders I do them every evening,I got a foam roller a couple of years ago it works wonders one roll up it my whole back clicks back in after a hard days work.