monkeyman

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dry fusion
« on: March 06, 2009, 07:09:52 pm »
hi folks looking to set up specializing in dry carpet cleaning been looking at the dry fusion packages,are these the best machines for this purpose,can you achieve good results on really dirty carpets using this product?

CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 07:23:22 pm »
Never used it or seen it but heard it is good

BUT......

It is not DRY carpet cleaning!

Cheers Goron

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 08:23:55 pm »
,can you achieve good results on really dirty carpets using this product?

Depends on what you read, where you read it and what you want to believe.
I have a Texatherm system which is similar but have long since stopped following the 'trained' method of doing it. If carpets aren't too bad then I can get them dry in 10 to 15 minutes.
Sorry but I don't believe you can get really dirty carpets cleaned to the standard of HWE, and at that point the customer has to be told that the 15 minutes and dry carpets just isn't an option.

JS2

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 08:48:19 pm »
When this sort of issue arises most posts on this forum always indicate that a range of cleaning options is desirable, depending on the level of soiling, the carpet type and the fixing (remember to do your pre-inspection thoroughly).  The concept of a 'dry' clean (really a lower-moisture technique compared to the solution-injection and extraction method and its variants) is appealing, but experience generally shows that it's not a universal way of doing things. 

However I accept that some professionals on here swear by the 'drier' techniques and I'm not challenging their confidence. 

Regards

Pete (JS2)

Joe H

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 09:21:51 pm »
Rotary cleaning - with or without heat - can be effective particularly on commercial carpets, and more then a few guys on here choose a rotary by choice for offices etc.
They can leave swirl patterns, and on certain carpets ie wool, may damage the fibre.

I have had both the Dry Fusion and the Texatherm system. Used the Tex system more extensively then the DF and got good results BUT HWE is a more efficient cleaning system generally speaking.

DF fluids are expensive.
There is a new product now on the market from Solution UK called Fusion Clean - advertised in the latest NCCA Newslinkmagazine.
One or two on here have trialled it. It works with or without the heat system.




clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 09:57:35 pm »
Good post joe :)

I had the same systems and now just use a rotory and pads and the cleaning agent and do lots of office floors with it.

Also found that the d f cleaner was expensive and to me the heat never got through to the pad ???

Bob Robertson

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2009, 10:04:28 pm »
 Joe/Clinton

Have any of yous tried the new Solutions fusion clean yet?

Bob

clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2009, 10:16:14 pm »
Hi bob

I got a small sample and had a go last week with it :)

Must say i was pleased with it as i have used most of the others on the market.

Its a bit like d fusion and a bit foamy with a nice smell.

Am going to put an order in for some.

Bob Robertson

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2009, 10:31:55 pm »
Clinton

let us now how you get on with it when you have had a good play around with it.

Cheers

Bob

Joe H

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 07:47:59 am »
Joe/Clinton

Have any of yous tried the new Solutions fusion clean yet?

Bob

Hi Bob
I ve not tried it cause I dont do a lot of rotary, though I have a 15".

Just quoted for a commercial so it might be in use together with my Cimex and TM

clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 08:42:55 am »
Joe

Must say its a great solution and works out much chearper then d f activator :)

Does a great job too :)

gwrightson

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 08:55:36 am »
I,m Saying nothing ;)

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

monkeyman

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 08:25:54 am »
does anyone here just use dry fusion method  only no hwe

clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 10:07:30 am »
I have used both dry f and texatherm and at one point thats all i cleaned carpets with ???

Still a few near myself and roger(dr carpet) who just use d f and now hwe ::)

I have a good client base for l m systems for my commercial work and always have used this system i now use just a buffer and solution.

It was a great marketing tool to get my foot in the door with the dry in 3o min heading and if i was starting again i would use it :)

brencarpetman

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 02:22:01 pm »
Hi clinton,

Interesting that you no longer use the D,F system just use a rotary!
Was thinking of investing in the D,F but looking at various posts dont know if i bother now, cos it is very pricey for what it is.
Would like to know what chems you use with the rotary now and how does it compare to D,F?

Bren.
Go on da Leeds

Doug Holloway

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 03:10:48 pm »
Hi Guys

I have Texatherm, similar to DF which is very good on low profile office tiles but I wouldn't use it on domestic, unless fast drying was an issue.

One can adapt to using different chemicals set ups with good results and someone wa saying the other day that they have drying down to 15 mins with different chemicals.

Cheers

Doug


clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 03:44:28 pm »
Bren

I have had a go with most the c cleaning tools(exept t mount but there is time)And like most of us guys who have been going for a number of years we buy the new generation of cleaning machines thinking this system is better ???

So we invest in the dry fusion then the texatherm came out just after so i bought that as well :)

And as time went buy sold them when i did a job just using the buffer machine and non of my commercial clients noticed any diference.I just found it was better on costs with the solutions as i just use now prochem bonnet buff and now going too try the new fusion clean solution and see how that goes.


brencarpetman

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2009, 04:22:13 pm »
Good Man clinton!
Thats cleared up a few things for me!
Going to the cleaning show next week and check out the dry fusion for the hell of it, and see what else is available at the mo.
Thanks for the info mate, and nice bike!

Bren
Go on da Leeds

clinton

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2009, 06:10:25 pm »
Bren :)

They are a good marketing tool :)

Good luck with the d f if you get it mate not sure if d f are at the cleaning show but if your newish to c cleaning you will enjoy the show mate :)

If you want any advice just give us a shout

clinton

Bob Robertson

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 07:18:05 pm »
DF were there last year and offering a discount if you bought at the show.

Bob