hank jr

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No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« on: April 26, 2017, 10:47:17 pm »
Ok so the van im about to buy has no bulkhead. Would you fit a water tank into a van with no bulkhead?

Don Simon

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 10:51:21 pm »
yes
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chris turner

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 10:55:56 pm »
As long as the tank is bolted down then it's fine.

nathankaye

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 11:02:45 pm »
I have a fiat scudo van, which was already fibre glassed thoughout in the back. The previous owner used it as a dog warden or something along those lines. There is a divide between the seats and the rear. Now it doesnt seem to be as solid as i would like, just a couple of mm as i was able to drill into it for something i was doing. But my water tank sits neatly upto it and is secured in the van. If i ever have a nasty accident would this supposed bulk head save my life, i doubt it. But then my tank is secured down and not moving nor would travel to pick momentum up to smash through bulk head.
So in essence, does it matter if its there or not, not really or atleast thats how i feel.
It does divide the van nicely though to cabin n rear, so the heating doeant take long to warm the cabby bit for me ☺
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hank jr

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 11:05:06 pm »
thanks for your answers guys.....

any idea how much it costs to get a water tank fitted?

windowswashed

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 11:26:21 pm »
I've just bought a van which doesn't have a bulkhead fittedso the first thing I've done is ordered a bulkhead which is the first thing I'm fitting in on Monday before I fit the tank. The reason I'm fitting one is because if I have to do an unexpected emergency brake any time in the future I can feel safer knowing that nothing loose in the rear of the van is going to come flying at me whilst I'm driving, worst that will happen is something might put a dent in the bulkhead and not my head or through the windscreen. Safety is paramount  :)

hank jr

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 11:29:36 pm »
I've just bought a van which doesn't have a bulkhead fittedso the first thing I've done is ordered a bulkhead which is the first thing I'm fitting in on Monday before I fit the tank. The reason I'm fitting one is because if I have to do an unexpected emergency brake any time in the future I can feel safer knowing that nothing loose in the rear of the van is going to come flying at me whilst I'm driving, worst that will happen is something might put a dent in the bulkhead and not my head or through the windscreen. Safety is paramount  :)

this is what i was thinking, as well as the water tank. Any idea how much it costs to get a water tank fitted properly?

windowswashed

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 12:02:03 am »
I fit my own as I'm a skilled fabricator by trade so easy enough to do if you know how.  Ask a  local garage  you can trust with a good reputation to give you a price, get a couple quotes from a couple garages and pick the medium price if unsure  :)

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 07:08:21 am »
no , first thing we do is fit one , they don't have to be metal , as a good sheet of half inch marnie ply will be as good , they can be a night mare to fit but any van line company will fit them with in minutes for you

slap bash

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 08:29:56 am »
I fitted a metal bulkhead when I got my connect and it does offer you protection if things go wrong. I use 3x 4 ton straps to secure it and it`s never moved an inch.I have had many times applied the brakes in emergencies and no problem. Many chaps would say it's not safe but HVG truckers tie down their loads and they feel they are safe. AS long as your anchor points are strong. Its easier to use a large backing plate under the floor with a large bolt through than to fit a welded frame. The points in a connect are excellent.
Why I fitted a bulkhead was for the security it gives against theft. My door to the back have quality security locks so my equipment is safe from theft and my insurance will be happy I have tried to protect my poles, equipment has cost a great deal of money.

 

Lee GLS

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 09:51:35 am »
I just bought a dispatch that didn't have a bulkhead, I managed to get one from someone breaking one on eBay for £50,  but the do seem to sell quickly. More importantly it didn't have cup holders which is more important than a bulkhead  :D so I got those as well

Dry Clean

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 10:41:41 am »
Total waste of time, at best it will keep you dry as your being freed when the dented pushed forward bulkhead has pinned you to the steering wheel.
Put your money into a good tank in a secure metal frame securely bolted to plates under the floor.

No bulkhead on this van but look how it goes through the metal between the driver and the engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w56cXOXtrrk

slap bash

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 11:50:28 am »
That tank in that van was loose so not a true test of a system. A tank would need to be loose to smash through the bulkhead. I had a strapped in tank in my older van and had an accident. A chap slammed on his brakes in front of me. The tank moved forward 3 inches to the bulkhead.

Spruce

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2017, 02:08:54 pm »
Personally I would fit a steel bulkhead.

I would buy a second hand unit from an advertiser, ie breakers yard that was a factory fit option as they are well designed and strong.

I would buy this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-EXPERT-CITROEN-DISPATCH-FIAT-SCUDO-BULKHEAD-2007-2015-/291976525387?hash=item43fb28364b:g:fkcAAOSw5cNYV-U2

and wouldn't even consider this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Guard-Full-Solid-Steel-Bulkhead-with-Window-for-Citroen-Dispatch-07-16-/172016036385?fits=Model%3ADispatch%7CCars+Year%3A2008&hash=item280cf46a21:g:NMsAAOSwgY9Xdnsc

You will be able to find them cheaper but you have to be patient and will have to travel to collect it.
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Tony dunmall

Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2017, 03:23:02 pm »
I take out mine normally in the transit connect SWB I ripped it out
Everything is bolted down any way and all grippa tanks fitted, and  pole in secure tubes

In new LWB connect was going to remove but the head rests and seat belts are Intergrated into the bulk head but even the long poles fit in so I need


andyM

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 04:13:19 pm »
Another point which hasn't been mentioned is that a bulk head can also offer an extra level of security.
If for example you work with the rear doors open and the front doors locked a bulkhead will stop a thief from easily entering the front cabin where you could have valuables or cash.
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robert mitchell

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 07:27:31 pm »
That tank in that van was loose so not a true test of a system. A tank would need to be loose to smash through the bulkhead. I had a strapped in tank in my older van and had an accident. A chap slammed on his brakes in front of me. The tank moved forward 3 inches to the bulkhead.

No it wasnt , it was bolted down , read the comments underneath .
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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2017, 10:51:21 pm »
That tank in that van was loose so not a true test of a system. A tank would need to be loose to smash through the bulkhead.

As per the comments from Gardiners on that video: "Thank you for your comments. This was an initial test of our first development system. The lids were fully screwed on (standard tank lids) and the tanks are made out of standard 6mm thick as most other tanks are on the market. It was fully bolted down."

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colin bird

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2017, 06:45:59 am »
 personally  I wouldn't feel that confident that a bulkhead  alone would  stop a tank weighing half a ton,from crushing you to death.
My tank is bolted to chassis,so hopefully I will be ok in an accident.

p1w1

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Re: No bulkhead in a van? would you still fit a water tank?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2017, 07:23:20 am »
personally  I wouldn't feel that confident that a bulkhead  alone would  stop a tank weighing half a ton,from crushing you to death.
My tank is bolted to chassis,so hopefully I will be ok in an accident.
Pure freedom only bolt their frames through the floor not your actuall chassis