[mjm]

are you using a surfactant or not     roofs and render

iam going to order some   SH        should i save my money should i save my money  and skip buying the surfactant and sent masker

[Smudger]

Use a Surfactant it really helps with roofs and vertical surfaces - I get mine off eBay and add 1 mug to a 20 litre drum

Darran

[mjm]

Use a Surfactant it really helps with roofs and vertical surfaces - I get mine off eBay and add 1 mug to a 20 litre drum

Darran

alright  thanks  i will keep it as it is then

[the king]

I use clever wash very good stuff wouldn't be with out surfactant even on flore

[tom20001]

Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

[mjm]

Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

no
why  is fairy better     

[Splash & dash]

Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

no
why  is fairy better     

Don’t use washing up liquid in hypo products it’s dangerous , it’s not compatible it will go like a thick gell in the bottom of the tank and finally it’s illegal although many on hear will disagree with what I have said I have posted the relevant information on hear numerous times all the information is on the HSE website about what can and cannot be added to hypo . This is the simplified version put in plain English if you want the technical terminology it’s on the HSE web site

[the king]

Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

fairy is not a good idea in my view clever wash is designed to mix with hypo i was under the impression mixing fairy with hypo can cause musterd gas

[Smudger]

Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

fairy is not a good idea in my view clever wash is designed to mix with hypo i was under the impression mixing fairy with hypo can cause musterd gas

Your getting confused with ammonia and acids

Darran

[mjm]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

[Splash & dash]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

[mjm]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

Nice one 👍.   

[tom20001]

Thanks Lads I'll look up the surfactant. Whats the one you buy called Darran? Ive been using the fairy since day one I thought it was ok but there you go. Cheers

[zesty]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

[Splash & dash]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

[zesty]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

I actually put less than that in my mixes with fairy. I’ll try clever wash and see what the difference there is.

[Splash & dash]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

I actually put less than that in my mixes with fairy. I’ll try clever wash and see what the difference there is.

Cleverwash is good stuff but is around £45 for  5 ltr  the Lauryl one is £18 for 5 ltr  I don’t find any difference between them to be honest

[zesty]

£45 seems silly expensive.

I’ve heard a few people use lauryl, might give that a go!

[Splash & dash]

£45 seems silly expensive.

I’ve heard a few people use lauryl, might give that a go!

It sounds expensive at£45 but that will treat around 13 drums of neat hypo so it’s cheap as chips really , obviously the Lauryl  one is cheaper again

[Smudger]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114739453002?ViewItem=&item=114739453002

[mjm]

https://www.bonnymans.co.uk/cart?appSectionParams=%7B%22origin%22%3A%22product-page%22%7D

This Is who I get mine off I like to get from 1 supplier.   


I haven't used the sent. Masker so I will give it a whirl

[Mike Halliday]

Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.    Not fairy

Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

I actually put less than that in my mixes with fairy. I’ll try clever wash and see what the difference there is.

Cleverwash is good stuff but is around £45 for  5 ltr  the Lauryl one is £18 for 5 ltr  I don’t find any difference between them to be honest

Look at the MSDS  and you will see the amount of active ingredient , which really you should do with every solution you buy just so you can see how much you are paying for H2O (which is often the biggest ingredient   )

[Smudger]

I thought the biggest ingredient in most of these chemicals was BS

Darran

[Mike Halliday]

I thought the biggest ingredient in most of these chemicals was BS

Darran

Nearly right........ it’s the biggest ingredient in the marketing of these products