Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 04:35:55 pm »
Haha Mike I see what you mean Great minds indeed  :)Nice website by the way love the branding with giraffe etc def stands out certainly one your clients will remember

Helen

Re: Facebook
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2011, 04:58:27 pm »
I always like the phrase surprisingly affordable just shows great mind think alike ;)

I like it even better, when said to me at quote stage ;D

Helen

Re: Facebook
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2011, 05:03:10 pm »
Hi Billy

You beat me to it i dont know why the link wasnt working but im sure it is now as ive just checked it.

Glad you like it i appreciate your comments. That website is brand new straight out the box so to speak it was only indexed by Google 3 days ago so there is a bit of work to be done on it to get it to rank properly for the correct keywords etc but that will take a few months or so.

There you go Helen have a good nosy around and id be glad to hear your comments or feedback  ;)



Had me sneaky beak around thanks ;D
Nice!! you can tell it's brand new as it still looks fresh ;D

Just an observation as it is a no no in our area, you don't have landline contact.
Around here if there is just a mobile contact, people get suspicious, but that's the snobby south for you ;D

You could do with before and afters in your pictures(maybe I missed them) as it all looks too new if you see what I mean.
Saying that, how many people go in to the body of a website when they search? it is there to keep your ranking up :)


JandS

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2011, 07:29:03 pm »
SEO expert tells me he can put me at number 1
on Google.
Same SEO told cc 4 miles away the day before
he could do the same for him.
He took it up I didn't.
If I had who would be at number 1.
Think something fishy going on, can't have a joint 1.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

AshWhite

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2011, 08:45:59 pm »
SEO expert tells me he can put me at number 1
on Google.
Same SEO told cc 4 miles away the day before
he could do the same for him.
He took it up I didn't.
If I had who would be at number 1.
Think something fishy going on, can't have a joint 1.

John

Were you cold called by any chance?
Carpet Cleaning http://www.floors2show.co.uk
Google Adwords Management http://www.pagecrest.co.uk

Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2011, 10:49:05 pm »
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Had me sneaky beak around thanks
Nice!! you can tell it's brand new as it still looks fresh

Just an observation as it is a no no in our area, you don't have landline contact.
Around here if there is just a mobile contact, people get suspicious, but that's the snobby south for you

Hi Helen glad you enjoyed looking around it and thanks for your comments you are prob right about the things you mentioned

The reason for the mobile is really for 2 reasons my main business is the web design seo stuff the carpet cleaning business is something I'm partners with a friend but he tends to do all carpet cleaning but when I built site I wanted to test where the calls were comming from so all online stuff comes to my mobile and all offline stuff goes to his office number. That way I can keep track of what's working online and what's not as if all the calls just went to him he wouldnt remember what came from where.

The other reason for the mobile number online is because we did a small test and found that a lot of the local carpet cleaning businesses with landline phone numbers were never there to answer there phones daytime, when you call because they are either out doing carpet cleans and not diverted there phones.

I've found with certain business sectors  through testing with various different clients that when your in a niche where people want things done immediately ie like carpet cleaning, plumbers, electrician, locksmith type businesses mobile does not really put them off calling you in the domestic sector . Commercial sector it can def make a difference maybe its just the area im in i dont know as ive not tested that theory nationwide, but I'm just testing stuff at moment once I have all the stats we prob decide wether to make it landline mobile or maybe both

Your prob right about the pictures needing to be before and after but to be honest when i build sites the main objective i always work too is getting people to pick up the phone and call i dont really want them spending to long looking at pictures if i can help it i know this might sound silly but i try to use pictures that are bit bland and hopefully wont have them spend to much time on them, and i dont make the pictures clickable so they are forced to do something else Once they got all the information ie like hopefulky pick up the phone but i know what you mean and you are def right about a lot of people dont even go through the site hence why youll noitice all the information they need is above the fold ie what we do and how can they get on touch. Once I get enough data to figure out how people are travelling through the site I'll know better what the people are up to.


fitz2kleen

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2011, 11:02:13 pm »
scott i have a c/c round my area with your attitude

I love your attitude as i do his
He has made me loads
And bulked my client data base no end
you sound like a spoilt boy, just because a comment has been made about SEO's you jump to there defence, is that because you use the same tactics they do?
his attitude is ' my way or the highway'
well your already in the highlands :)
bless.

Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2011, 11:24:05 pm »
Hi Marc

I def not a spoiled boy but I try educate myself and i can tell you fife is nowwhere near the highlands. Its as near to the highlands as Coventry is to London And would be the same as me calling you a cockney.

I may be partners maybe more of a silent partner in a carpet cleaning business but my core business and always will be is seo, Internet marketing and web design. That's what I do day in and day out to make a living. I'll be the first to admit I know far more about that topic than I do about carpet cleaning but that's why I'm on here to learn more about the carpet cleaning business from people that do and in the process if I can give something back with my specialist knowlage ie seo web design then I will.

As the saying goes don't judge a book by its cover. I just thought your comments were a bit personal since you know nothing about me or my credentials and you were basing your facts around some bad experience you had in past.

 I don't know what you mean the same as their tactics ??  

But hey there is no harm done and no hard feelings but it's so called seo experts like the one you mention that give the rest of us a bad name. Next time ask to see proof then you won't get done.







Art

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2011, 12:54:12 am »
Hi Marc

I def not a spoiled boy but I try educate myself and i can tell you fife is nowwhere near the highlands. Its as near to the highlands as Coventry is to London And would be the same as me calling you a cockney.

I may be partners maybe more of a silent partner in a carpet cleaning business but my core business and always will be is seo, Internet marketing and web design. That's what I do day in and day out to make a living. I'll be the first to admit I know far more about that topic than I do about carpet cleaning but that's why I'm on here to learn more about the carpet cleaning business from people that do and in the process if I can give something back with my specialist knowlage ie seo web design then I will.

As the saying goes don't judge a book by its cover I just thought your comments were a bit personal since you know nothing about me or my credentials and you were basing your facts around some bad experience you had in past.

 I don't know what you mean the same as their tactics ??  

But hey there is no harm done and no hard feelings but it's so called seo experts like the one you mention that give the rest of us a bad name. Next time ask to see proof then you won't get done.









So can you produce a list of happy clients who have used your service?

Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2011, 01:58:46 am »
Hi art

For anyone who genuinely wants to use my services then after discussing what they want me to do for them and if they are genuine then I can show them proof and results  if they wish.

Obviously as I'm sure you will appreciate for client confidentiality I'm not going to plaster my clients all over some forum to prove a point as that wouldn't be right as I'm sure you would appreciate being a business owner.






Jim_77

Re: Facebook
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2011, 02:00:17 am »
Scott,

Are you sure that all of the photos on your website are free to use, and are not subject to copyright from other organisations?

Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2011, 02:14:33 am »
The pics on the website come from royalty free image sites so yes you will see some of these pics on other websites as they can be used by others also

Helen

Re: Facebook
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2011, 07:29:35 am »
Quote
Had me sneaky beak around thanks
Nice!! you can tell it's brand new as it still looks fresh

Just an observation as it is a no no in our area, you don't have landline contact.
Around here if there is just a mobile contact, people get suspicious, but that's the snobby south for you

Hi Helen glad you enjoyed looking around it and thanks for your comments you are prob right about the things you mentioned

The reason for the mobile is really for 2 reasons my main business is the web design seo stuff the carpet cleaning business is something I'm partners with a friend but he tends to do all carpet cleaning but when I built site I wanted to test where the calls were comming from so all online stuff comes to my mobile and all offline stuff goes to his office number. That way I can keep track of what's working online and what's not as if all the calls just went to him he wouldnt remember what came from where.

The other reason for the mobile number online is because we did a small test and found that a lot of the local carpet cleaning businesses with landline phone numbers were never there to answer there phones daytime, when you call because they are either out doing carpet cleans and not diverted there phones.

I've found with certain business sectors  through testing with various different clients that when your in a niche where people want things done immediately ie like carpet cleaning, plumbers, electrician, locksmith type businesses mobile does not really put them off calling you in the domestic sector . Commercial sector it can def make a difference maybe its just the area im in i dont know as ive not tested that theory nationwide, but I'm just testing stuff at moment once I have all the stats we prob decide wether to make it landline mobile or maybe both

Your prob right about the pictures needing to be before and after but to be honest when i build sites the main objective i always work too is getting people to pick up the phone and call i dont really want them spending to long looking at pictures if i can help it i know this might sound silly but i try to use pictures that are bit bland and hopefully wont have them spend to much time on them, and i dont make the pictures clickable so they are forced to do something else Once they got all the information ie like hopefulky pick up the phone but i know what you mean and you are def right about a lot of people dont even go through the site hence why youll noitice all the information they need is above the fold ie what we do and how can they get on touch. Once I get enough data to figure out how people are travelling through the site I'll know better what the people are up to.



It was just observations not critique. Can't understand people who don't divert lines when out but hey ho each to their own.

Scott Fraser

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Re: Facebook
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2011, 08:21:25 am »
Hi Helen hey I know you wernt criticising dont worry I was bored last night and was needin a break inbeteeen stuff I prob got carried away with that reply lol

I couldn't believe it as well people not diverting phones just shows you though

garry22

Re: Facebook
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2011, 01:03:00 pm »
Marc,

I'm not going to belittle your efforts and I can understand your annoyance at cold calling, SEO "experts". The very fact they are cold calling should tell you something.

I refuse to take on carpet cleaners as clients because financially, it is not worth it considering the amount of work involved. Compare that to say, a cosmetic dentist or surgeon (for whom one client could be worth several thousand pounds) and you can see why.

If you are cold called (OK, there may be the odd exception), the person is either not good enough or sees carpet cleaners as "thickies" who can be conned. Most I would say, fall into the latter category.

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I feel that there are so many ppl out there that find it so easy to belittle efforts made by cash strapped small buisness's making out they can make your webb page do cart wheels and inject your buisness with 100% more buisness AND get you to front page on google for a mear finacial payment.
I have had a so called professional build me a webb page that was launched last year and has done little to nothing for my buisness.
I have a great missus ( dont let her know Ive said that mind) who has over the past 4 years chopped and changed our webb site to what we have now AND got it on front page of google all for very little expense.
basically what im getting at is if you have the ability to do something ,do it yourself.

As for yourself, sooner or later you have a decision to make.

You have to decide whether you are going to take web marketing seriously or carry on as you are. It all depends on how much of your business is dependent on the web.

There's nothing wrong with what you are doing per se. Just be aware that there is a world of difference between playing with websites and web marketing in very competitive markets.