Kevin R

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Thank you from Kevin R
« on: December 06, 2008, 01:08:51 am »
I have decided to bow down from this forum. I am not going to delete my account but my visits from now on will be anonymous. This forum has become full of DIY enthusiasts and sole traders who believe they are business heros because they can earn 25K a year. Nothing wrong with that but its no way to run a serious business as its just not sustainable long term.

Every post now on the subject of hot wfp or the Guttervac is hijacked by the same old no-accounts DIY experts claiming to know it all even though they started residential wfp or gutter cleaning a few weeks ago.

I am interested in discussion but of late its all shouts of "cheap DIY is the best" and it clearly this is not an option for any serious business that wishes to grow and employ staff. I have nothing against inventors or innovators.

I have had several excellent discussions with members and suppliers on this forum that have lead to business success for my company and I wish to thank those members for their contributions. You know who you are.

I will keep in touch with those of you that have become friends and I hope you will do the same to - you know where I am.

Thank you to the owners of this once excellent forum.

Kind Regards

Kevin R





mark dew

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 01:51:53 am »
That's a shame. I've found your posts a good read and very informative.
And i'm not the only one.
At least you ain't disappearing.  :)

Wayne Thomas

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 04:09:09 am »
Sorry to hear you won't be posting anymore Kev. At least you're local to me, so I may pick your brains on some of your gutter cleaning knowledge in the future if you don't mind. You're a decent chap who deserves to progress forward and upwards. I agree with you that there are too many DIY'ers not prepared to invest in decent equipment, who want to do everything on a shoestring budget, expecting huge profits for next to no outlay.

trevor povey

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 07:20:05 am »
I have decided to bow down from this forum. I am not going to delete my account but my visits from now on will be anonymous. This forum has become full of DIY enthusiasts and sole traders who believe they are business heros because they can earn 25K a year. Nothing wrong with that but its no way to run a serious business as its just not sustainable long term.

Every post now on the subject of hot wfp or the Guttervac is hijacked by the same old no-accounts DIY experts claiming to know it all even though they started residential wfp or gutter cleaning a few weeks ago.

I am interested in discussion but of late its all shouts of "cheap DIY is the best" and it clearly this is not an option for any serious business that wishes to grow and employ staff. I have nothing against inventors or innovators.

I have had several excellent discussions with members and suppliers on this forum that have lead to business success for my company and I wish to thank those members for their contributions. You know who you are.

I will keep in touch with those of you that have become friends and I hope you will do the same to - you know where I am.

Thank you to the owners of this once excellent forum.

Kind Regards

Kevin R










All in all Kevin you have been a helpful poster but now is  the right time to retire from this board(without the attention grabbing announcement) don yr famous hard hat and high viz jacket  and have a change in direction ....as Devon's No 1 Village People tribute band...go for it Kevin ;D ;D

Best Regards

Trevor Poovey .


ftp

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 08:00:24 am »
Kevin gave great advice on Guttervacs no doubt about that, but the thing with advice is the person recieving it doesn't have to take it - it's their choice. Unfortunately he has such a blinkered view that no-one elses opinions could be discussed or even tolerated by him. If you earn less than he does then you are simply a looser. After last nights spitting and swearing maybe he's done the right thing.
I wish him all the best and thank him for the advice in the past (some of it i took) and look forward to being able to have adult discussions without the verbal abuse in the future.

sageorgeta

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 08:16:12 am »
Are there window cleaning industry awards for pitiful departure speaches. ;D

Fair enough you have got the hump because no one see's it your way...what a shame that people do have differant views.

 ;D

tomy jackson

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 08:26:36 am »
im  a diyer ,but not every got the skill to be , and not every body wonts to ,then thers who conserterate on billding up a biger bissnes ,and thers those who just wont a safe liveng till reterment , so ill be sory to see you gone from the forum as you all ways gave good add vice , il probely see you posting on uter forums , you can under stand this frum for petcting ther owne intrests as a serplier +add advertisers on ther forum

Trotsky

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 05:17:51 pm »
I agree with you any kind of talk about building/conducting a business and proper investment or just trying to raise the standard of window cleaning you get overwhelmed with comments that don’t help or achieve anything positive.

This might explain why there is a huge gap in the calibre or window cleaners and the equipment available.

Shame really as everybody could benefit including the suppliers.

There should be a part of the forum where you would have to meet certain criteria to be able to post geared towards the professional window cleaner.



Or maybe you could just join or even start your own elitist group of "Professional" Window cleaners and leave us "Dullards" to whitter on amongst ourselves!

I have said before on this forum...
I am a small fish in a large pond :'( :'( :'(
A one man operation :'(
I like DIY, I am not ashamed of that! :)

But for to be labeled in such a way as a "Cheap" is a bit offensive! >:(

Maybe at 46 years of age I have no "Ambition", sorry about that!

Maybe I am just "Happy" to plod along, sorry about that as well

If you're not happy then leave without the notice...
I did about a year ago... why? because I didn't like wasting my time!

Now I return and waste more time than I like to...
I am free to go when I like... I wont announce it! ::)
And as before I wont be missed! 8)

Trotsky

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 05:45:34 pm »
Maybe that’s what you should and others (dullards) do more often, rather than keep posting on threads that are not about DIY.
   

Congratulations yet another to bite the dust!
You must be really proud of yourself, peasant!
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 06:42:08 pm »
Whose Kevin R and what's got his goat?

 ???

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 06:44:10 pm »
Hi Kev,we had a chat the other night and after talking i think i now know where your coming from,i`m sorry to see that you won`t be posting anymore.After looking into the L5 setup a lot more in legal detail i will be removing mine from the van in the morning and buying a proper installed hot water system on monday,i won`t go back to cold anymore so the money for a pro installed 1 is a drop in the water as far as cost is concerned.I have spoken to a couple of qualified gas engineers and the like and have been told i must be stark raving bonkers to do what i`ve done and only a matter of time before something could well happen.

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2008, 06:48:59 pm »
Kevin R sounds a bit on the arrogant side to me; though other than this one, I can't recall any of his posts. 

Personally I'm glad he's not going to be posting anymore.  We're not all third generation window cleaners; some of us have started window cleaning within the last decade and started from scratch.

Maybe he just isn't bright enough to realise that?

He'd be better off in Cleaning pros.  ;)

dai

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2008, 06:54:18 pm »

If earning 25k a year makes us a loser, well all I can say there's more of us that fit into that bracket than will admit to it on here.
I am a 25 k a year winner, with no debts and a pension, all my needs are met, the only ambition I have is to stay healthy and happy.

Sometimes people forget that some of us have had other lives outside window cleaning, as a skilled ex tool room machinist, I am perfectly capable of doing a bit of simple, and it is simple DIY.
Matt is an ex carpenter and an enthusiastic DIY man.
If I want something and I can make it, I will, providing I can do it in a reasonable time, it's an outlet for creative thinking, a chance to try a different approach, or just make something better.
The fact that DIY is usually [but not always] less expensive is a bonus, but not the driving factor for many of us.
 We DIY guys will often use the money that you can save line, to justify the reason we do it, but the amount of satisfaction there is in making something that works better is the real driver.

We are all different people, the only thing that some of have in common is the way we earn a living.
If we see a posting that is degenerating into an unpleasant argument we can just walk away from it by pressing the back button, if more of us did this the offending post would die from starvation.

Time to chill and show a little tolerance, we all have our own views, but we don't have to push them down the throats of others, and others are not forced to swallow them.
Resign from this forum if you must, but this 25k loser will not be beaten off this forum, and certainly not because I didn't like what someone else had written.

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2008, 06:56:57 pm »
Kev knows what he`s on about in all aspects of this business and is simply fed up with stupid comments like only £10 per hour is only acheivable,DIY is not possible for some of us as employees are to be considered.There are getting more and more on here that are only looking for conflict and not discussion and it`s a shame because we can all offer a lot in our own individual way be it accepted or not,just because 1 dosen`t acheive 1 thing that dosen`t mean others don`t.

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2008, 07:13:55 pm »
IMO they are priced realistically now.

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2008, 07:40:16 pm »
Taxi for Ewan!

ftp

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 07:40:57 pm »
 ??? nothing wrong with advice i'm all for it.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2008, 08:00:36 pm »
Kevin

i guess i must 1 of the cheap DIY'er, for that i'm proud, i am honeslty proud that i have the ability to DIY my kit

Now some of your posts have been interesting, then you seem to have a little chip on your shoulder than grew bigger and bigger, it started off when Mr H and then again ftp built his own Guttervac, with the exact same parts as you have on yours, this somewhat sent you on a downward spiral, then when Glyn tried to rubbish the DIY guttervac, you seemed to take it personal, the spiral has continued in the recent weeks, going as far as calling people idiots and then last night a F'ing idiot, why, just because they dont agree with you ? ? ? which is very worring as your such a professional person ( though you seem to act like a chav at times with your abusive posts )

i find your story amazing, i really do ( im sure i read this from you recently ) you had a heart attack so then became a person with drive to build a business that would look after your family if the next heart attack came, this you said was / is acheived by working 6 days a week and long hours, only see'ing your children 1 hour a day , now that idea is completely alien to me, i would be enjoying life NOW and spending as much time with my family, but i didnt call you a idiot because of it, we all have different opinions, different outlooks on life

you seem to think that some1 who doesnt have the same outlook is a loser / idiot or other insulting name, which to me is a rather narrow minded approach to life, rather sad to be honest

as Dai has said ( and ive mentioned it before ) i choose to DIY stuff, why, because i can, you had a bad back / shoulder ( i cannot remmber now, dont care either to be honest ) i had a really painfull neck, both we solved by using lighter poles, you brought the SL2, i build the RT Zen-flex, both had the same required effect, yet you insulted me by calling me a idiot ? ? ?

you mentioned a issue with another brand of camera, the battery could fall, i mentioned that people should wear a hardhat, this was met with most abuse ? ? ? yet wearing a hard hat is a great bit of advise as is any PPE

the cheapskate remarks are also funny, when i was a carpenter, i owned ( i still do ) all dewault powertools ( this was at a time when a cordless drill was 450 quid ) i did bring some back from the USA on a trip ( to save money, allmost half price ) but i had the best kit you could buy, i would often laugh at the people with cheaper kit ( i knew a guy who used POWERDEVIL kit, a drill and cordless were 30 quid for the pair, i had a screwdriver bit that cost more than that ), then i realised, they still did the same job ( and earned the same money), the guy with the powerdevil kit was a top notch chippie, i guess it made me realise that you dont need the most expensive kit to do the same job

my lifestyle also points that im not a cheapskate or a poor loser, ive have just returned from holiday in disney which cost just under 7 K, this was my 2nd disney holiday in 18 months, a sign of a poor loser, personally i dont think so

i post to give others a option, the other option is to build things DIY, now other just might not have the money to spend / might prefere to save what money they have / spend it on other things / get down the bookies, who are we to condem and insult people who make that choice, not personally i dont care if you want to spend 1 K on a camera system of 100 quid on a camera system, it really doesnt effect me, but i feel when people ask on here, many like the choice, they choose what they want, if it was down to you, you would just like to give them a reply, buy a 1 K camera because i did




matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2008, 08:04:16 pm »
Maybe that’s what you should and others (dullards) do more often, rather than keep posting on threads that are not about DIY.
   


Maybe that’s what you should and others (dullards) do more often, rather than keep posting on threads that are not about DIY.
   

Congratulations yet another to bite the dust!
You must be really proud of yourself, peasant!
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(




Childish, DIY is fine and has its place. I have noticed though with a few that enjoy there DIY, they are closed to the alternatives and always argue or comment in a non constructed way and ruin a discussion.

DIY is fine, it’s the ones who represent it don’t do it any favours.


Now Ewan is heading down the same route, taking cheap shots at people who choose to DIY kit

and so the circle of life continues

the queen is dead long live the queen

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2008, 08:06:29 pm »
Hi Kev,we had a chat the other night and after talking i think i now know where your coming from,i`m sorry to see that you won`t be posting anymore.After looking into the L5 setup a lot more in legal detail i will be removing mine from the van in the morning and buying a proper installed hot water system on monday,i won`t go back to cold anymore so the money for a pro installed 1 is a drop in the water as far as cost is concerned.I have spoken to a couple of qualified gas engineers and the like and have been told i must be stark raving bonkers to do what i`ve done and only a matter of time before something could well happen.

Fair play NWH, nice to see it when people admit to making a mistake/error of judgement.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2008, 08:07:23 pm »
Are there window cleaning industry awards for pitiful departure speaches. ;D


its a winner  ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2008, 08:42:06 pm »
Happiness is the goal of everyone I guess - unless they're mentally unbalanced. Some on here resonate with me more then others - Tosh, Dai and Shiner come to mind as do Roy Harding and Ian Giles.

I admire how Tosh has gone from the cocoon (no offense meant by that) of Army life to self employment and his attitude to family life.

Dai - well, losing your wife and then finding happiness in your later years as he has done reminds me that money and wealth and material things are just one (and definitely not the major one) factor in a contented life.

Shiner - our religious backgrounds have some resonance and seeing how he has risen above what frankly appears to me very poor treatment as a youngster/younger man and how he shows no bitterness is inspiring to me. I like to think our businesses and attitude have some similarity.

And Roy, Ian and Pingu - you show me what can be acheived as professional owner-operators and I always read your posts with interest and a desire to learn more.

Others I hold in high esteem too - Martin 606, Matt and Alex spring to mind - but sadly there is an element on here that just likes to argue and boast and/or put down, whinge and be negative about anything they don't agree with.

Sorry guys, I'm going nowhere - there's too many good guys on here to worry about the rest.
It's a game of three halves!

Glyn H

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2008, 08:50:08 pm »
Matt
Mr H didnt actually build his GutterVac, the head he gave details of how to construct was supplied to him  by J Wadeson who purchassed it from us the week before.
 Mr H even thanks the Wadesons at the bottom of his instructions in how to infringe the law.

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2008, 08:53:34 pm »
Which 1 did the wadesons get,i know them.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2008, 08:56:53 pm »
Matt
Mr H didnt actually build his GutterVac, the head he gave details of how to construct was supplied to him  by J Wadeson who purchassed it from us the week before.
 Mr H even thanks the Wadesons at the bottom of his instructions in how to infringe the law.

i stand corrected on that then glyn, though i do know now, the head bit is now available to buy as a kit

peter holley

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2008, 08:58:33 pm »
how do we measure success?
money? wisdom? family?
why is it that when someone is on their death bed they appreciate the small things in life?

money is very important (very) , but it cannot buy happiness, and if you do achieve the rich status you can lose it overnight :o

balance in life is the answer! (well there is another answer , but i cant go into that on aforum ;D)

i liked kev r posts, and his ettitude and ambition, but success comes in many forms and we all have the right to follow our own desired paths... it doesnt make us losers :(

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2008, 09:00:58 pm »
Matt
Mr H didnt actually build his GutterVac, the head he gave details of how to construct was supplied to him  by J Wadeson who purchassed it from us the week before.
 Mr H even thanks the Wadesons at the bottom of his instructions in how to infringe the law.

Seriously,.. its a hoover, a pipe and a pole,... hardly cutting edge, and your assertion that you were the first to come up with the idea have been challenged time and again.

Get over it already Glyn!

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2008, 09:04:15 pm »
Matt
Mr H didnt actually build his GutterVac, the head he gave details of how to construct was supplied to him  by J Wadeson who purchassed it from us the week before.
 Mr H even thanks the Wadesons at the bottom of his instructions in how to infringe the law.

Seriously,.. its a hoover, a pipe and a pole,... hardly cutting edge, and your assertion that you were the first to come up with the idea have been challenged time and again.

Get over it already Glyn!

 ;D ;D this is a goodbye thread for Kevin, dont start it off again or he will be back  ;) ;) ;)

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2008, 09:06:49 pm »
You don`t like people like Kevin do you Matt,he`s done alright for himself and has an opinion.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2008, 09:13:50 pm »
You don`t like people like Kevin do you Matt,he`s done alright for himself and has an opinion.

i dont like people like him who put others down who dont have the same idea's as himself, i find it all rather narrow minded

to be honest i found his posts ok up intill a few weeks ago, he had run-ins with a few on here before that time, i found his posts were then starting to belittle  people who decided to DIY stuff, no need for that to be honest, he then proceeded to abuse people and call them idiots etc etc

i like to see people succeed in life ( do allright for themselves ) i honestly feel i have done allright for myself, yet he calls me a loser who will allways be poor, which is far from the truth

ftp

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2008, 09:14:13 pm »
Were you on here last night NWH? If you saw his shocking posts you would understand why it's difficult to like him when he's in Jekyll and Hyde mode.

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2008, 09:20:44 pm »
I must admit i didn`t although talking to him on the phone i found him to be helpful and pleasent,could you point me towards the posts from last night please.

ftp

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2008, 09:28:22 pm »
Some are kept as quotes but the worst he deleted shortly afterwards as he deleted everything he could. There was no need of it and it would have got most peoples backs up especially if you were targetted.

peter holley

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2008, 09:29:31 pm »
he  is online now reading this with interest....kev may be embarrassed at his outbursts lastn night so lets just forgive, forget and move on 8)

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2008, 09:31:14 pm »
Some are kept as quotes but the worst he deleted shortly afterwards as he deleted everything he could. There was no need of it and it would have got most peoples backs up especially if you were targetted.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=65893.80

page 5 of this thread, i have qouted a few

have a read

Paul Coleman

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2008, 09:37:50 pm »
I have decided to bow down from this forum. I am not going to delete my account but my visits from now on will be anonymous. This forum has become full of DIY enthusiasts and sole traders who believe they are business heros because they can earn 25K a year. Nothing wrong with that but its no way to run a serious business as its just not sustainable long term.

Every post now on the subject of hot wfp or the Guttervac is hijacked by the same old no-accounts DIY experts claiming to know it all even though they started residential wfp or gutter cleaning a few weeks ago.

I am interested in discussion but of late its all shouts of "cheap DIY is the best" and it clearly this is not an option for any serious business that wishes to grow and employ staff. I have nothing against inventors or innovators.

I have had several excellent discussions with members and suppliers on this forum that have lead to business success for my company and I wish to thank those members for their contributions. You know who you are.

I will keep in touch with those of you that have become friends and I hope you will do the same to - you know where I am.

Thank you to the owners of this once excellent forum.

Kind Regards

Kevin R



Kevin.  I genuinely appreciate much of the stuff that you have posted.  I am one of those people who is reasonably content to remain a sole trader - though I am heading past that 25k marker that you mention and I can't be bothered to DIY equipment.  One reason that I do things this way is to manage my stress levels better because I had awful problems with it years ago.  Although anyone can have a heart attack (regardless of how hard they push themselves in business), I can't help wondering if the drive you have in business has contributed to yours.  If I had a choice in the matter, I would rather be healthy and of moderate income than a big businessman with heart disease.  There is a lot more to life than money IMO.  I'm not having a pop at you either.  You come across as a very driven professional guy - but the strain that can sometimes cause may well increase the risks of heart problems.  Having written that, yes I know it can happen to even the most laid back of people too but suspect that the risks are lower for such people.
I respect the choices that you have made and I do wish to build my own business bigger too.  However, especially due to my background, I know that too much stress is very bad for me and I choose to do things in a way that keeps it reasonably low.

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2008, 10:18:34 pm »
Ewan, has that taxi not come yet?

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2008, 10:36:35 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

elite mike

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2008, 10:39:37 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

well said :)

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2008, 10:42:58 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

Ah, but where do they get their ideas from?  Alex G got his Super Light pole idea from Jeff B's DIY fishing pole invention; Jeff B DIy'd the original lightweight pole when he had a back problem; Alex read about it on a forum, contacted Jeff, got some ideas and hence the Superlight range was 'invented'.

So in this instance, it was actually a DIY invention which made 'our' lives easier.

elite mike

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2008, 10:45:36 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

Ah, but where do they get their ideas from?  Alex G got his Super Light pole idea from Jeff B's DIY fishing pole invention; Jeff B DIy'd the original lightweight pole when he had a back problem; Alex read about it on a forum, contacted Jeff, got some ideas and hence the Superlight range was 'invented'.

So in this instance, it was actually a DIY invention which made 'our' lives easier.

i love my pole tosh

its made so much difference, just fly round now ;D ;D

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2008, 10:51:47 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

Ah, but where do they get their ideas from?  Alex G got his Super Light pole idea from Jeff B's DIY fishing pole invention; Jeff B DIy'd the original lightweight pole when he had a back problem; Alex read about it on a forum, contacted Jeff, got some ideas and hence the Superlight range was 'invented'.

So in this instance, it was actually a DIY invention which made 'our' lives easier.
Maybe lots of people have ideas and other people put them into practise,as said Glyn it seems has only put a pole on the end of a hoover but we all know more goes into it than that Tosh.The ones with the ideas didn`t have the balls to put serious money into producing the so called idea in the first place,i don`t think you realise how much these products cost to bring them to the market place for sale for us to buy.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2008, 10:53:23 pm »
You don`t like people like Kevin do you Matt,he`s done alright for himself and has an opinion.

i dont like people like him who put others down who dont have the same idea's as himself, i find it all rather narrow minded

to be honest i found his posts ok up intill a few weeks ago, he had run-ins with a few on here before that time, i found his posts were then starting to belittle  people who decided to DIY stuff, no need for that to be honest, he then proceeded to abuse people and call them idiots etc etc

i like to see people succeed in life ( do allright for themselves ) i honestly feel i have done allright for myself, yet he calls me a loser who will allways be poor, which is far from the truth




You say “I have done alright for myself” others are trying for success and that doesn’t come without hardship. Yet you still compare yourself, but they don’t compare themselves to you.




they dont compare themselves to me, yet they call me a idiot who will allways be poor,


Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2008, 10:56:07 pm »
Has anyone seen Ewan's taxi?  Has NWH taken it?

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2008, 11:01:43 pm »
Has anyone seen Ewan's taxi?  Has NWH taken it?

Yes, it turned up, but the driver wasnt in the FSB, was a part-time retained firefighter and applied the taxi-firm decals himself; so he didnt take it ::)

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2008, 11:04:56 pm »
Has anyone seen Ewan's taxi?  Has NWH taken it?

Yes, it turned up, but the driver wasnt in the FSB, was a part-time retained firefighter and applied the taxi-firm decals himself; so he didnt take it ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2008, 11:06:26 pm »
Has anyone seen Ewan's taxi?  Has NWH taken it?

Yes, it turned up, but the driver wasnt in the FSB, was a part-time retained firefighter and applied the taxi-firm decals himself; so he didnt take it ::)
now THAT was funny ;D ;D

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2008, 11:07:51 pm »
Thankyou Gentlemen, thankyou..... ;)

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2008, 11:08:13 pm »
could be worse, they could have been magnetic signs  ;) ;)

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2008, 11:11:59 pm »
Ewan, are you really more intelligent than the average guy on here, or do you just makeout you are to try to appear superior?

Then again, are you more superior to the average guy on here, or do you just makeout you are to try to appear more intelligent?

Either way, you're plop still stinks  ;D

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2008, 11:12:43 pm »
Sorry i`ve been counting my money lol,cue Matt and a couple of others lol. ;D ;D

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2008, 11:13:48 pm »
Ewan, are you really more intelligent than the average guy on here, or do you just makeout you are to try to appear superior?

Then again, are you more superior to the average guy on here, or do you just makeout you are to try to appear more intelligent?

Either way, you're sh!t still stinks  ;D
Not you Matt,and what does FSP mean.

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2008, 11:15:14 pm »
FSB.

Federation of Small Businesses.

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2008, 11:17:16 pm »
It`s funny how people say how easy it is to build or was after it goes up forsale,fair play to the likes of Glyn and Alex who continue to bring new products to the market to make our life easier.

Ah, but where do they get their ideas from?  Alex G got his Super Light pole idea from Jeff B's DIY fishing pole invention; Jeff B DIy'd the original lightweight pole when he had a back problem; Alex read about it on a forum, contacted Jeff, got some ideas and hence the Superlight range was 'invented'.

So in this instance, it was actually a DIY invention which made 'our' lives easier.



DIY is fine, but what you fail to understand people with a viable business and responsibility can’t suffer fools, that’s why you get called.

Now you compare your DIY to professional suppliers.

There’s a world of difference that goes beyond your comprehension.

It`s a waste of time Ewan they won`t listen there to busy trying to save a few quid.

matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2008, 11:20:53 pm »
once again

the circle of life continues

it seems kevin leaves ( thus we would not have any1 to post the cheap put downs )

now ewan steps up to the plate

see my post on "deleting my account" some1 allways fills the void if some1 leaves

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2008, 11:22:50 pm »
Or DIY hot water systems   :P

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2008, 11:24:50 pm »
anyway what a boring post ::)

kevin r
i watched all this unfold last night
i cant say i really noticed your posts prior to last night so you probably acted out of character because if you were a regular arse like ewan i would have noticed
however ;D
last night you were bang out of order
everybody has different goals and agendas and the fact that they aint the same as yours does not make them any less worthwhile


NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2008, 11:26:47 pm »
Regardless of being good at DiY or not if you can afford it most would buy the best and that`s a fact,i DIYed the hot to see if it worked and it surley does but it`s so dangerous it`s crazy so i`ll buy a proper 1 now.Anyone would admit that DIY in this game might do the job but it looks pikey and cheap,if you DIYers were doing as well as you say you wouldn`t be buggering around in the shed with your Harris poles and gaffer tape,get real fellas.

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2008, 11:28:59 pm »
because if you were a regular arse like ewan i would have noticed

 ;D

Graham Gould was my favourate window cleaner Troll.  Ewan is just an irritating child in comparison.


matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2008, 11:29:16 pm »
once again

the circle of life continues

it seems kevin leaves ( thus we would not have any1 to post the cheap put downs )

now ewan steps up to the plate

see my post on "deleting my account" some1 allways fills the void if some1 leaves




 I’m able to converse on different levels.



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

different levels eh

we have seen them :

boring

droll

uninteresting

mundane

tedious


matt

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2008, 11:31:42 pm »
because if you were a regular arse like ewan i would have noticed

 ;D

Graham Gould was my favourate window cleaner Troll.  Ewan is just an irritating child in comparison.



i have to admit your right tosh, Gouldy was humourous and had a bit of brains about him

i wonder what he would make of these newcomers ? ? ? ?

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2008, 11:33:33 pm »
Regardless of being good at DiY or not if you can afford it most would buy the best and that`s a fact,i DIYed the hot to see if it worked and it surley does but it`s so dangerous it`s crazy so i`ll buy a proper 1 now.Anyone would admit that DIY in this game might do the job but it looks pikey and cheap,if you DIYers were doing as well as you say you wouldn`t be buggering around in the shed with your Harris poles and gaffer tape,get real fellas.
NWH i respect your opinion on quite alot of stuff
we got off on the wrong foot a while back but i think we have warmed to each other ;D
most would maybe BUT not all ;)
i LIKE messing about with gaffer tape and Harris poles
low overheads = higher profits
thats my take on it
always will be :)

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2008, 11:42:51 pm »
Ewan,

Are you taking drugs?  L.J Thorpe posted that!  I haven't cleared anything up?  ???

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2008, 11:42:56 pm »
That`s fair enough but i can`t be bothered,even my Mrs can`t understand why anyone would want to sod about with things that you can buy off the shelf that will last longer in the long run and look more profesional.DIY is for people that more often than not need to do it i don`t so i don`t bother,i`m not knocking them but it makes me lol when in the next breath there doing so well.Some think i`m ignorant arrogant and they`d be right they have no impact on my life it`s all gravy baby. ;D

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2008, 11:46:42 pm »
This forum is getting a playground for bitching and slagging,at the end of the day we are supposed to be helping each other and offering advise.It seems that the better your doing the more your disliked. :'(

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2008, 11:52:16 pm »
Another 1 that used to post all the time was Luke,now he was always putting up usefull threads posting pics and gave good feedback on products.I reckon he`s either had enough or has found a girlfreind lol. ;D ;D

Tosh

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2008, 11:55:34 pm »
DIY is for people that more often than not need to do it i don`t so i don`t bother,

No, wrong!

Two-years-ago we received a healthy inheritance; the majority of which is still in the bank; there's nothing we need, so we keep it for a safety net. 

Of course, Wor Lass wants stuff like a new bathroom and stuff, but we'll fund that out of what we earn.

But if we wanted we could purchase - cash - a brand-new van and fill it with an Ionics Thermopure.. and more, but we're happy working as we are.  We pay the bills, the mortgage, we live in a nice house in a nice area and have nice neighbors.

We live between two rivers (The Wye and the Severn) and every evening when I walk the dog, I can't believe how lucky we are are.

I also think I'm smarter than the idiot who forks out £450 on an SL2 who then goes bashing it about on his routine domestic work.  I paid about £110 on three fishing poles, and have got a similar pole that works well upto 30 foot, with loads of spare sections too.

But, you know what they say about a fool and his money...

 ;)

NWH

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2008, 11:57:26 pm »
DIY is for people that more often than not need to do it i don`t so i don`t bother,

No, wrong!

Two-years-ago we received a healthy inheritance; the majority of which is still in the bank; there's nothing we need, so we keep it for a safety net. 

Of course, Wor Lass wants stuff like a new bathroom and stuff, but we'll fund that out of what we earn.

But if we wanted we could purchase - cash - a brand-new van and fill it with an Ionics Thermopure.. and more, but we're happy working as we are.  We pay the bills, the mortgage, we live in a nice house in a nice area and have nice neighbors.

We live between two rivers (The Wye and the Severn) and every evening when I walk the dog, I can't believe how lucky we are are.

I also think I'm smarter than the idiot who forks out £450 on an SL2 who then goes bashing it about on his routine domestic work.  I paid about £110 on three fishing poles, and have got a similar pole that works well upto 30 foot, with loads of spare sections too.

But, you know what they say about a fool and his money...

 ;)
lol good on ya. ;D

Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2008, 12:00:50 am »
Do you know what this is meant to be a cleaning forum ,,all i read on here when i come on is men bitching at one another why dont you all grow up and help one another and keep the forum for cleaning ,,


if you wont to nag then do it with ur wifes

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Re: Thank you from Kevin R
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2008, 12:05:49 am »
I have not read all these posts, but i get the impression that it is just winding each other up.

It has well and truly run its course

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