[Griffus]

I have a leisure centre swimming pool to quote for. It is a blue resin type compound that has an anti slip (gritty) texture added. Pretty sure it will be one of Altro's resin floor compounds.

I am there on Monday and intend to try the following on test: -

Spray a small area with Altro 44, dwell 5 minutes or so and then pressure wash. If no joy then Altro 44+ or maybe Solutions STS, and then pressure wash.

I do have the option of chemical, rotary and wet vac but talking to Altro I think pressure washing would be a lot quicker.

One concern is chemical getting into the pool.

Anyone have poolside cleaning experience that can offer some advice?

Thanks

[Kev Martin]

Do it with Aqua Mix Heavy Duty Tile & Grout Cleaner and honing powder.

Pre wet
Lay HDT&G and allow to dwell
Then scrub with soft to medium brush and combine honing powder if its really bad
Then wet vac it up (Nothing in pool this way)
Rinse
Wet Vac again

Jobs a good un!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd

[Jamie Pearson]

If run off getting in the pool is a concern you can use towels or dust sheets dipped in the pool and rolled up to form booms.

We have the Bonasystems range of products specifically for poolside areas. They break down on contact with the pool if any.

[Griffus]

Thanks to both of you.

Not been yet, there Monday.

Will try what I already have, maybe with a descaler to start and see how that goes.

If no joy I'll no doubt be in touch.

Thanks again

Ian

[Griffus]

Well, no joy with anything I tried. I have attached a before and after, I suspect the after will look much more like the before when completely dry.

Anyone experienced in this field and interested in taking this on then email me.

ian.griffiths@idproclean.co.uk

I've also been asked to carry out a deep clean in a commercial kitchen, which is something we don't do, again, anyone interested then email me. Will post in general section too.

[Griffus]

Pictures won't upload, no matter what I try.

email me and I'll email them to you.

Size wise you're looking at approx 100 sq metres

[Jamie Pearson]

what did you ty?

in my experience it has to be acid side in a wet environment.

is it altro pebblestone? these can be tricky to keep the chemical on the surface.

Bonasystems to a gel variant of their Bonaclean or these applications.

[Kev Martin]

Pictures won't upload, no matter what I try.

email me and I'll email them to you.

Size wise you're looking at approx 100 sq metres

Ian

Don't give up mate!  I have never walked from a floor yet!  Your in the Midlands aren't you?  Wing the photo's across to tilinglogistics@hotmail.com and I will have a look at them!  Then we can meet up to do a test area and get it sorted

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Griffus]

Pictures won't upload, no matter what I try.

email me and I'll email them to you.

Size wise you're looking at approx 100 sq metres

Ian

Don't give up mate!  I have never walked from a floor yet!  Your in the Midlands aren't you?  Wing the photo's across to tilinglogistics@hotmail.com and I will have a look at them!  Then we can meet up to do a test area and get it sorted

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

Hi Kev, you have mail 

[Kev Martin]

Pictures won't upload, no matter what I try.

email me and I'll email them to you.

Size wise you're looking at approx 100 sq metres

Ian

Don't give up mate!  I have never walked from a floor yet!  Your in the Midlands aren't you?  Wing the photo's across to tilinglogistics@hotmail.com and I will have a look at them!  Then we can meet up to do a test area and get it sorted

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

Hi Kev, you have mail 

Ian

Nothing Yet

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Griffus]

Bloomin Outlook again  :

Now sent, cheers

[Griffus]

what did you ty?

in my experience it has to be acid side in a wet environment.

is it altro pebblestone? these can be tricky to keep the chemical on the surface.

Bonasystems to a gel variant of their Bonaclean or these applications.

Hi Jamie

Tried a 15% Hydro based Descaler to start with then Altro 44+ at the opposite end and also STS from Solutions.

I think you might be right about keeping the chemical on the surface.

Kev's looking over the pictures for me as I type. Fingers crossed.

Cheers

Ian

[terrazzoman]

ian can you callme tomorrow.....i have e-mailed my number.....tony

[Griffus]

Hi Tony, will do. Will be early afternoon'ish.

Cheers

[Kev Martin]

Ian

See you later this afternoon

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Jamie Pearson]

How did it go?

[Griffus]

Still in the process of getting sorted.

[Kev Martin]

How did it go?

Jamie

The chlorine from the pool is causing salt deposits on the floor and in turn they have crystallized.  The site manager told me this started happening on day 1 when the floor was laid 4 years ago.  We had some success cleaning it but even if we get it all off which will take a while it will start happening again immediately so it's just chucking money away in my opinion.  I took our resin specialist with me and the floor needs over coating again really but before we cost that up we are getting some tests done on the water in the pool.

We need

The calcium hardness of the water
The pre chlorine levels
The pH reading done

Then our chemical boffin will put together a report and we can advise accordingly.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Jamie Pearson]

Above is a resin poolside we did some work to which sounds like a similar situation.

This is now maintained by Bonasystems Bonaclean in house to prevent the salts coming back.

[Kev Martin]

Mate

These deposits are a lot thicker (Rough guess up to 3-4mm in places).  In addition the surface has a typical grit texture obviously to prevent slips but conversley it gives a great bond for the deposits and added to that we believe it is a form of Altrocrete.  It is extremely porous because as you are cleaning it the water just soaks straight in.  We tried seriously pre wetting it first and it makes no difference how much you put down it soaks straight through.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Jamie Pearson]

Want me to get a gel sample for trial?

[Kev Martin]

Jamie

Very kind of you and we can try it but then how do we stop it happening again?  I think the resin is the wrong spec

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

[Jamie Pearson]

Jamie

Very kind of you and we can try it but then how do we stop it happening again?  I think the resin is the wrong spec

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd

Maintenance?

This gel works amazingly well on the rubber type poolsides as it is brushed on left to dwell then simply jet washed. The product is fully miscible in water.

[Griffus]

Hi Jamie, this one's been passed back to the site management team.

As Kevin mentioned, this started happening from day 1 (over four years ago). It is true there was a total lack of maintenance but aside from sealing in some way I can't see what would help prevent this reoccurring. With any seal there could be implications to grip levels due to the poolside layout / poor drainage.

I am due to speak with them soon on another matter (not flooring this time) so I will see where things are at and if any new info will post.

Thanks for taking an interest and a big thankyou to Kev (and Colin) who gave up there time FOC. Very much appreciated.

[Jamie Pearson]

Preventative maintenance. That's what is required. The one I pictured above was the same until they put in place a program using specific products. There is still one area that needs attention on a bridge over to another pool. This will need soda blasting to remove as the build up is so bad.

[Griffus]

We did discuss soda blasting as a possibility but this isn't something we have ever done / can do. The pool will also be full and whilst this can be covered, wouldn't soda blasting be messy / expensive?

[Jamie Pearson]

Soda blasting can range from £75 - £100 an hour.

The soda is completely inert so breaks down when it hits the pool water and can simply be washed away.

The deposits can be removed by the filtration system. Its a very popular method in the states for outdoor pools as an experienced operator can remove the contamination without damaging glaze on tiles.

[Griffus]

Soda blasting can range from £75 - £100 an hour.

The soda is completely inert so breaks down when it hits the pool water and can simply be washed away.

The deposits can be removed by the filtration system. Its a very popular method in the states for outdoor pools as an experienced operator can remove the contamination without damaging glaze on tiles.

That's me out then 

[Jamie Pearson]

It will still need cleaning down, and on-going maintenance.

[Griffus]

This I know, but as already stated it's now back with the site management.