[Rob_Mac]

Lee

You should see my collection of Mosmatic flat surface cleaners.

Did you know I have a triple jetted, twin vacuum port - bought for £475.00 - should have been £1400.00 - brand new!!

Just picked up a twin jetted, single vacuum port from Alan - got this one for £275.00 - think the price on this one is £1050.00, Alan has kept it in very good condition.

Alan - Thank you - pleasure talking to you!

Lee - you've got a small window now to get one bought as I am looking for another two but have run out of money. I have cheques imminently on their way!!!

I love you Lee xxxxxxxxx

Rob

[Darran Smith]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

[Blast Away]

Rob if I'd have gained any of them I'd of sold them on to you with a little profit!    I haven't got vac recovery.

Rob, do you wanna buy another Thor? 

[Rob_Mac]

Darren

It is only a bit of light hearted at Lee - I know he is after a FSC and I keep getting there before him.

It's all about the bottom line really - what can you afford to spend.

The H & M I bought off Roger was not right, we had to put a bigger pump on it, to suit a two man operation, so secondhand plus the pump was £8000.00.

You can buy a H & M - see Ebay listings for George Podell for about £8500.00 but if they come with the same pump then you are definitely going to be upgrading you've got import & taxes on top of that - Roger would be best on that side.

My next set up is going to be massive flow & 4000psi, with a flow back to tank reducer and then just stick on two hot boxes - Got to be the easiest way round it - probably £5000.00

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Lee

How much?

Rob

[Darran Smith]

Rob

You keep getting there before me also

but the Rhinoman is watching..........................

[Rob_Mac]

Darrren

I look at most of the relevant listings on Ebay every day so you need to be up early. Hope your still busy!!

Don't get into the pressure washing game there's no money in it!!!

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

Question,

Can you go twin operator without one man getting all the flow whenthe other releases the trigger?

[Blast Away]

Lee

How much?

Rob

Just getting you excited mate. I know someone with one though if you ever need one, a little persuading with the right offer and he may sell it.

It's one of his many machines. His largest is 120 LPM. All he does is clean chicken shed nationwide. Big money!

He's even got custom made conveyor belts to send grid slats through with turbo nozzles washing them.

[Blast Away]

Question,

Can you go twin operator without one man getting all the flow whenthe other releases the trigger?

I'm not clued up on this but if what I got told is correct I think you can use a K1 unloader valve and it dumps the rest back in the tank.

[Rob_Mac]

I am just admiring myself in the polished stainless steel of my lovely FSCs.

120 litres per minute - does he need that much?

What's his business called, website so I can have a look?

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

Question,

Can you go twin operator without one man getting all the flow whenthe other releases the trigger?

I'm not clued up on this but if what I got told is correct I think you can use a K1 unloader valve and it dumps the rest back in the tank.

I was thinking you could have an unloader on each outlet of the pumphead, but would they need to be specialised unloaders? Or could you use standard ones. In theory, when you release the trigger and thewater flows back toward the pump, it hits the unloader and bypasses the the pump. Hmmm still wouldnt stop the pump poweri g up to full flow though.. there has to be a way.

[Darran Smith]

Hi Rob

We have been very busy these past twelve months, hope it continues through 2013

We have been pressure washing since the beginning in 2010 and did loads in my last UK business.

Mainly on building sites and existing commercial buildings as we do a lot of cladding and facade cleaning jobs up and down the country as well as car parks etc

Mainly using 18 ltr per min cold water machines at the minute and occaisional hire from Trafalgar Cleaning equipment when we get chewing gum removal jobs. They supply karcher trailer mounts HDS 1000 de - which are slow and painful for the lads to use at about 700 pounds a week!

We have just been asked by a university to clean about 18000 sq metres of pavements - covered in Gum and thought maybe its time to invest in something really good.

I have been looking on e-bay and at H&M but keep thinking about buying bits and bobs here and there and building my own - only problem - no time!

Hope you are keeping busy with what your up to (I think we keep missing each other on B&K jobs, if you still deal with them)

Theres no money in anytype of cleaning - but we like to do it anyway  

What else would we do..........

[Rob_Mac]

I have just had a brief look and the description is not to release pressure from the gun end on twin operator units, more to completely release the pump pressure!!!???!!!

Could it be done by putting a splitter on the pump outlet and then having two unloaders directly after the splitter with two gun hoses attached - just thinking out loud!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Darren

Which B & k jobs have you been on?

Rob

[Darran Smith]

I am just admiring myself in the polished stainless steel of my lovely FSCs.

120 litres per minute - does he need that much?

What's his business called, website so I can have a look?

Rob

Vitopan stainless steel cleaner will make them look good

[Darran Smith]

Darren

Which B & k jobs have you been on?

Rob

Birmingham - Luton and all over the place

[Blast Away]

I am just admiring myself in the polished stainless steel of my lovely FSCs.

120 litres per minute - does he need that much?

What's his business called, website so I can have a look?

Rob

I've already got one, that's enough for now.

If you do a director search on Lyndon Page you'll see 2 companies he's active in, he has business partners in them too of which they own some other large companies like Ferguson Tractors and Garic( the welfare unit vans you see on the motorways )

The 120 litres is either running various lances or working the conveyor belts. These get set up on the site and water isn't a problem.

[Matt Gibson]

I have just had a brief look and the description is not to release pressure from the gun end on twin operator units, more to completely release the pump pressure!!!???!!!

Could it be done by putting a splitter on the pump outlet and then having two unloaders directly after the splitter with two gun hoses attached - just thinking out loud!

Rob

That would be the same as two unloader, one on each outlet wouldnt it? I am thinking that regardless of two unloaders, when one operator releases, the pump is going to find the path of least resistance, which will be the other operator still washing. I think im going to ask on the yank forums. Thats the only thing really stopping me from buying any bits yet, dont want a 40/50lpm pump that cant be split properly.

Rob, while I think about it, when one man is using the high flow pump, do you keep it at full flow with the right nozzles? Or do you use a smaller nozzle to bring the flow down for one man?

[Darran Smith]

Darren

Which B & k jobs have you been on?

Rob

Birmingham - Luton and all over the place

Did the windows on this one http://www.bandk.co.uk/sectors/education/university-of-birmingham.html

and this http://www.bandk.co.uk/sectors/commercial/project-green-nottingham.html

Plus dozens more all over the place - windows - floors - etc
No pressure washing though  

[Rob_Mac]

We have twin operator turbo nozzles, twin operator flat nozzles, single operator turbo nozzles and single operator flat nozzles.

This gets complicated because the nozzles aren't the same size for the Thor and H & M, also they are different for the FSCs.

I spend my life trying to colour code everything!

Rob

[Blast Away]

We did a Tesco B&K site brick clean and car park.

[trevor perry]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

[Rob_Mac]

Darren

You are on a different sector to me, they are peculiar these principal contractors as they don't like you bridging into the other sectors. It is really weird, you would expect them to find a decent contractor and use them everywhere they have works but it just doesn't work that way.

Takes some getting used to - i've just been tipped the nod on some works - you don't get invited you have to know about the works. Bloody frustrating at times!!!

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

We have twin operator turbo nozzles, twin operator flat nozzles, single operator turbo nozzles and single operator flat nozzles.

This gets complicated because the nozzles aren't the same size for the Thor and H & M, also they are different for the FSCs.

I spend my life trying to colour code everything!

Rob

Gotcha. You should buy different colour nozzle protectors.

[Darran Smith]

Rob

Construction Site Cleaning has always been the same.

Apart from window - facade - gutter - carpet - pressure washing/cleaning etc

50% of our work is cleaning new construction sites in/out - they can be ok - sometimes

[Rob_Mac]

Bit of insulation tape round the nozzles.

Have I mentioned my FSCs - now they are a different kettle of fish - jeez triple jetted - single operator for the Thor, for the H & M, twin operator for the Thor, for the H & M _ i'm going to have a nervous breakdown on nozzles alone if I get anymore gear!!!!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Darren

I could put three hot machines plus three dry steam machines on that chewing gum for you,  I could probably add another three machines on top of that as well.

Just a thought

Rob

[Blast Away]

Darren, my balls aren't as big but I can put 2 hot machines and 1 dry steamer on that chewing gum for you and drag the job out for a third of what Rob would charge you!

 

[Rob_Mac]

You cheeky twunt

You have got to have big balls putting that post up.

That did make me laugh!!!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Get off my topic you northern t**t

Rob

[Blast Away]

You cheeky twunt

You have got to have big balls putting that post up.

That did make me laugh!!!

Rob

Sorry mate it might be 1/4 then!   No overheads!  

Let's do it together Rob.  

[Blast Away]

Twunt is my word!

[Rob_Mac]

I would happily work alongside you Lee - as long as you did as you were told!!!

If I know Darren though he has probably already got this sown up.

The problem you have Lee - i cleaned 18000sqm in November - that is a lot bigger than the patios you do!!!

Rob

[Darran Smith]

Stop fighting lads - weve only just quoted it - not definate yet 

We can sort it but it is always useful to know someone who we can sub out to if and when needed.

I'm a Northerner living down South so my vote my point towards the Northern lads........

[Rob_Mac]

Darren

Be careful Lee can be a bit like Christian off the Hotel - the Torquay hotel fly on the wall!!!

Rob

[Blast Away]

[Darran Smith]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I have always liked the look of these but never heard anyone who uses them. I know a dealer in Bulgaria who sells these - i will ask him for prices - last time I checked he wanted about 10k EURO

[Darran Smith]

Ashford Kent HQ for the Rhinoman

Crawley Depot for the Rhino Lackies!

[Rob_Mac]

Between Barnsley & Doncaster in a small mining (ex) area is a place called Bolton on Dearne.

That's where I grew up.

Lee I am going to polish the hell out of the mossys get in my van, drive up to your place and kiss you!!!!!!

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

Your all a bunch of southeners!! 

[Blast Away]

Between Barnsley & Doncaster in a small mining (ex) area is a place called Bolton on Dearne.

That's where I grew up.

Lee I am going to polish the hell out of the mossys get in my van, drive up to your place and kiss you!!!!!!

Rob

I see the sign mate when we go to Wombwell, Wath and Mexborough regularly.

Rob, you would polish a turd to go one better!  

[Rob_Mac]

Only if someone is paying!!

Matt quiet you Northern Northerner!

Rob

[Blast Away]

Only if someone is paying!!

Matt quiet you Northern Northerner!

Rob

He's a northern northerner from down under!! 

[Rob_Mac]

Yeh - best to ignore him!!! Too Northern - Weirdo

Rob

[trevor perry]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I have always liked the look of these but never heard anyone who uses them. I know a dealer in Bulgaria who sells these - i will ask him for prices - last time I checked he wanted about 10k EURO

 yes they are a good machine. Whilst Lee and Rob are arguing over who has the biggest dangly bit i could probably have that university job finished for you. We did a university of that size,they will probably want it doing during summer hols but there will still be a lot of pedestrian traffic as rooms are often let out to conferees so allow time for cordoning off propper and directing pedestrians to take different routes, also ensure to pre plan your water sources

[Matt Gibson]

Dont know if im coming or going  

[Darran Smith]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I have always liked the look of these but never heard anyone who uses them. I know a dealer in Bulgaria who sells these - i will ask him for prices - last time I checked he wanted about 10k EURO

 yes they are a good machine. Whilst Lee and Rob are arguing over who has the biggest dangly bit i could probably have that university job finished for you. We did a university of that size,they will probably want it doing during summer hols but there will still be a lot of pedestrian traffic as rooms are often let out to conferees so allow time for cordoning off propper and directing pedestrians to take different routes, also ensure to pre plan your water sources

They want it finishing by the end of March as they have some VIP visitors coming and asked if we can do it weekends up until then - we will see what happens when they pick themselves up off the floor with the price we have put in.

[Matt Gibson]

I like to get a taste of the world, from top to bottom  

Rob, im more southern than you (originally) though I do like a deep fried mars bar  

[Blast Away]

Not sure if Rob works weekends mate. We do though! 

[Rob_Mac]

Matt

Softie!!!

I've never been called southern before - lots of other things but not that - i am insulted!!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

I haven't worked since December 3rd.

Where are my slippers - hard work at the moment.

Get up, shower, lounge about, jeremy Kyle, Gym, Ebay surfing, cook the tea and come on here.

I wont know what to do when It comes in. We started mid Feb last year.

Only another two weeks off -Yawwwwnnnnnnnnnn!!!

Rob

[Blast Away]

I haven't had sex since December 3rd.

Where are my slippers - hard work at the moment.

Get up, shower, lounge about, jeremy Kyle, Gym, Ebay surfing, cook the tea and come on here.

I wont know what to do when she comes in. I started mid Feb last year.

Only another two weeks off -Yawwwwnnnnnnnnnn!!!

Rob

No wonder you've got big balls! 

[Rob_Mac]

have you got any work for me??

Rob

[Darran Smith]

Been quieter than normal this month for working at least we have clean(ish) vans now!

But quoting - I have never been busier
mainly loads of gutter and carpet cleaning jobs

I'm off to bed now as got a long drive tomorrow to look at a job

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Cheers

[Rob_Mac]

Same here

Priced work in Peterborough, liverpool and somewhere else, may be going further north and a very interesting service clean contract, on a very big industrial estate, plus another service one on a warehouse in leicester.

I am not working but the vans have been out and works have been completed.

I similarly haven't been as busy quoting, this early in the year.

Rob

[Blast Away]

have you got any work for me??

Rob

Nar mate, got enough me and our kid to sort. Did a gum job today on a stretch of paving in the city centre and another 2 lengths tomorrow across two more buildings in town. Plenty of property management jet washing booked in and hoping we get a high school, a college and that car park in Blackpool all gum removal. That will keep us going for a while.

I like working just the two of us, although we argue a lot. We can get more done faster without the hassle of making sure a third or 4th machine is running smoothly with enough water supply. Been there and done it and had lads stood around 'cos there's not enough water flow to accommodate all. We'd be wrapping the reels and driving off to find a hydrant too often.

[Rob_Mac]

Tea boy??

Rob

[Blast Away]

Tea boy??

Rob

We don't drink tea. Double espresso at home in the morning does me before I leave.

Night all, up at 6am!

Peace out! 

[Roger Oakley]

The H & M I bought off Roger was not right, we had to put a bigger pump on it, to suit a two man operation, so secondhand plus the pump was £8000.00.

Rob

How strange that Rob, I remember the blog on your web-site stating it "as the best investment" you had made, and now the comment above pretty much slates it?

[Rob_Mac]

Not at all Roger

For my requirements it needed a bigger pump, it has a bigger pump now and is still the best investment I have made

Rob

[Blast Away]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I've just been bidding on a thermic 17 Trev, it went for £3100 on a trailer though.

[Matt Gibson]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I've just been bidding on a thermic 17 Trev, it went for £3100 on a trailer though.

Ebay?

[Blast Away]

Yeh up in Forfar.

[Matt Gibson]

Never saw it..

[trevor perry]

Hi Rob

I'm Hi-jacking your post

We are looking for something really really good - HOT Water min 21 ltr per min flow rate, possibly twin operator

Any thoughts - assuming money is no object

 if you want twin operator then you will need to go above 21ltr a minute that is unless you are only using the twin operation for gum removal, the trouble is that if you go above 21ltr a minute then you would struggle to get hot unless like rob suggests you use two burners, we use the Lavor Thermic 17 machines these are hot 3000psi and 21ltr a minute but if you buy new are well over priced at about £13k but they are a well built reliable machine ,second hand ones do come up from time to time if you keep your eyes open

I've just been bidding on a thermic 17 Trev, it went for £3100 on a trailer though.

 did you get it Lee,  you wont regret it if you did