collins ReVive Stoneworks

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THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« on: November 20, 2011, 04:23:00 pm »
Allforstone and marblelifelondon.

and all the other alliases as has been identified as Amir patwa of middlesex

Why is he determined to have a go at kevin Martin ??

well i first met Amir over twenty years ago at a cleaning show at the NEC brummie land ...  he was chemspec then and still is
then he was in to wood restoration and had a stand ,  i attended as a younger enthusiastic window cleaner, carpet cleaner office cleaner,  in fact i was sad i just loved cleaning,  but never made any money because i lacked business sense,  although i had about 15 cleaning staff.

my brief encounter with Amir was this strange looking long haired guy who had a stand at the carpet and window cleaning show

it was to be another ten years later at a stone show that i met him again selling Klindex equipment Italian floor grinding products and chems amonst other things such as floor prep equipment,,  i was looking for a niche at that time as carpet cleaning was saturated and competition fearse everyone was cleaning windows or carpets or selling chems.. as is the case today even more competitive...

I spoke to Amir got some information and went away..  i pondered this new opprotunity so aproached Amir and done some training with him going into london up to manchester to see him work on real jobs grinding and polishing stone .
indeed he helped me on a few of my jobs after buying some gear from him,, 

after that i went to Italy and met Ercole  one of the brothers that own the company and spoke at lengh over a couple of drinks about an opportunity to set up another distribution in the uk , 

when i returned needless to say Amir was not happy about competition, and i soon became the victim of many odd emails..

im decided that Amir had baught over klindex to UK and that  i would just do the work and was no longer interested in dealing machines,

ironically although Amir was selling klindex he always said  he did not want the market to become saturated, i agreed with that..
what he really did not want was competition , and so why all this now? 

simply some one said on here that he was a nutter,  no he is not a nutter but a quite a clever man,, bullpoops from time to time , but mostly he is jeolous  that kevin martin is selling klindex too,  and that with Klindex there is no exclusivity to the market which is another risk i did not want, stonegate know that..   

in fact if you want to purchase machines and get a good deal go direct..

firstly though i want to tell anyone on here that a few training courses  are ok but it takes years and years to get experience of all the problems facing stone tradesmen restorers,  i can say that with many years behind me that i know nothing and learning is every day.. a challenge, an adventure full of stress to get each job right , no two jobs the same,,

most days i come home looking white and full of dust and slurry in my hair my ears my nose.  everywhere oh the joys of stone work , lol



 
Karl collins

Kev Martin

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 05:37:49 pm »
Karl

Not a bad post that!

You were extremely lucky that he helped you because I have 20+ customers who he has completely turned over.  Basically he has taken their order, dropped the goods off, had their cash and run.  Nothing wrong with that in itself however, our belief is that anyone investing in a very expensive grinding machine or any other Klindex machine needs a full back up.  By this I mean somewhere they can get spares, consumables within 24 hours and not have to wait up to three weeks along with advice from people who use these machines day in and day out.  We carry the full range of diamonds, spares and consumables and indeed we are now supplying StoneGate in Hull.  In addition to this when anyone purchases from us we also offer a spare machine replacement service if theirs breaks for any reason and it can't be fixed.

Finally as for going direct to Italy?  I would suggest that buying direct is more expensive especially if you are not VAT Registered and when you consider the horrendous shipping costs in addition try getting a spare machine over from Italy if anything goes wrong!!!

The important thing with any expensive purchase is the service back up and that is something we do have and are very proud the service is second to none.  

Finally why would anyone want to go to Italy?  The course is free but it is after all only really a course on all their machines designed to reel you in and the UK Agent gets paid regardless!!!  We also do a free one day specific course!  No travel to Italy, No Language Barrier and you can be trained by one of my Techs who use the machines day in and day out and there is no pressure to buy!  

In fact if you are considering Klindex machines, because of the cost I would rather you come and then go away and think about it first.  This is so you make the correct informed decision and not an impulse buy that you may regret.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

terrazzoman

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 05:41:20 pm »
i thoght you had stoped trading as a marble restoration company when you sold your klindex equipment .......and was just carpet cleaning

Kev Martin

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 06:23:24 pm »
i thoght you had stoped trading as a marble restoration company when you sold your klindex equipment .......and was just carpet cleaning

I take you are referring to Karl!  If so he swapped his Klindex for a Rotary and told me has regretted it ever since.  I don't think he is doing much heavy grinding but the last I heard he was certainly cleaning and re polishing floors like Travertine, Limestone and Terrazzo.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

terrazzoman

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 06:33:12 pm »
yes i was.........sorry for any miss understanding.....i have spoken to amir last week.......most interesting his slant on you.me and his clients such as patrica johnson.........!!  but does it bother me NO ...

Kev Martin

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 06:41:01 pm »
He doesn't bother me one iota as long as he doesn't resort to Slander.  I can live with him replicating my company names as well as long as he doesn't purport to actually be us.  Healthy competition is important!!!

In fact I am quite proud that he feels the need to resort to this :D :D :D

Just shows you he has no work of his own he can win under

Patricia Johnson
Amir Patwa
Chemspec etc

To point out just the sort of nutter he is my son Tony showed me his facebook page the other night!!!

I am not on facebook personally and I don't even know how to use it but,  I was shocked after reading it with his political views he has even been allowed to stay in the Country.

The guy must be nuts

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

collins ReVive Stoneworks

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 06:43:08 pm »
I take you are referring to Karl!  If so he swapped his Klindex for a Rotary and told me has regretted it ever since.  I don't think he is doing much heavy grinding but the last I heard he was certainly cleaning and re polishing floors like Travertine, Limestone and Terrazzo.

You right there kev heavy grinding with a single speed mono is bloody hard graft bud

thats why i have scanmaskin  as well as klindex for heavy grinding..

bur good luck to you on supplyimg klindex with back up thats what was needed all along

Karl collins

Kev Martin

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 07:09:08 pm »
Karl

Thanks for that!

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Jamie Pearson

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 07:27:54 pm »
I too have Amir to thank for getting us first started in stone restoration and for suggesting to my father we get into wood restoration.

We bought a planetario and he worked with us on our first couple of projects.

Its a little disappointing for me to see 20 years on he carried on as he did.
He obviously has his reasons that arent my business.

To avoid confusion he has no involvement with Chemspec Europe the carpet, upholstery and restoration chemicals company.

collins ReVive Stoneworks

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2011, 07:56:28 pm »
Hi Cleaning systems

i could not understand that either ..

it is just jeoulousy of kevin thats all

he is very expert , but he will not work with others , 

where as kevin is happy to share  so every one wins ....

as for terrazzoman i have to put you right i did trade my first  levighator 640 

because i could not get the back up ,  but i wouldnot be grinding with a mono any more , to slow
Karl collins

david_m

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2011, 10:38:43 pm »
Hi Karl

what do you think of the scanmaskin machines
was looking at these
did you get yours through Jerry  KGS


thanks davy

collins ReVive Stoneworks

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 08:18:53 am »
HI Davy

scanmaskin are good as is levina pro Superabrasive

Karl collins

terrazzoman

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 09:13:24 pm »
hi karl.........what are these machines not sure i know of them

Jamie Pearson

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2011, 09:17:36 pm »
I looked at these at the stone show. Very nice bits of kit. Sprung tooling and other nice features.

terrazzoman

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2011, 10:01:56 pm »
hi do you have any details of who sells this equipment

Jamie Pearson

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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 10:59:46 pm »

terrazzoman

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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT PATRICIA
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2011, 04:37:41 am »
thank you