[kordun]

Hi all

Had an enquire today asking if we could clean pigeons mess with our pressure cleaning equipment.
 “There are currently well-established pigeons nesting in certain parts of the property, we are obliged to clear any mess which accumulates on the pavement areas”

Is there any special procedure, process or disposal of pigeons poop or just normal pressure clening? Its a multi story car park and some walkways

[DREAM CLEAN]

Hi

This is the sort of work we carry out all the time, where are you based? I may be able to help?

Nick

[BDCS]

I also do a fair amount of this work - I only cover Kent but I will talk you through it if Nick can't help. Have you got a waste carriers licence ?

[kordun]

Im based in Reading, Berkshire. Don’t have waste carriers licence

[chores hygiene management ltd]

try to avoid pressure washing it untreated as it creates aerosols of contaminated materials and is frowned upon by the EH

[kordun]

All this mess is on pavement under bridge, very dark area. All these pavement, buildings, bridge is being knocked down next year as they building new development. What do you suggest, how to clean it?
Thanks

[chores hygiene management ltd]

get it treated first with ornikill or similar, if you cant buy such chemicals buy something like screen from premiere, its just to prove you have addressed potential proliferations but then again no-one may ever question it so the choice is yours but screen and orni cost about a fiver for 5 litres, its a no-brainer in my book

[BDCS]

http://www.killgerm.com/product-group.php?group=50

[Alan McTernan]

Have used Ornikill from BDCS link and it is great stuff

If i was you i would get a waste carriers licence as it is only £155 for 3 years which i think is well worth it as even if you only carry a bucket of customers waste that is classed as trade waste and if you get a jobs worth (which i always do) it is a pain!!!

Regards
Alan

[kordun]

Thanks very much guys for your suggestions and advices. I’m sending them quote and hopefully I get that work

[DREAM CLEAN]

Hi,

Make sure it is sprayed with biocide,( can use watered down bleach)

Make sure you use full ppe,gloves/overalls/respirators,eye protection,

Sweep it up and place in to black bags dispose

We are doing a job in newport next week of this nature

Sorry if my spelling is bad had a lot of beer this afternoon hic hic

Nick

[mark311069]

so dont you need any training or license for this kind of work? also after you have bagged the waste where do you get rid of it?

[chores hygiene management ltd]

every area has hazardous waste disposal companies they are usually a skip company with license for this discipline,therefore, you have transfer notices to that effect, i assume most of us posess waste carriers licenses nowadays and training is an enhancement of induction and update H&S training.

[bobby p]

pigeon mess is highly lethal toxic stuff- i remember once watching a tv prog of FRED DIBNAH  ,the famous steeplejack , he had become Very Ill after his flat cap fell into some water on a roof and tiny amount of pigeon poo then got on his head

[The Great One]

Hi

once the guano has been treated it can be dumped as normal waste as it is not hazardous anymore

Regards

Martin

[chores hygiene management ltd]

im sure martin 606 is correct in what he says but we have provided works within the pest industry and haz transfer notices carry a lot of weight, some of the jobs have been quite extreme and some piles of crap have been up to 8 inches tall in popular roosting points therefore a single spray out does not take into account the deep seated stuff when the crust is broken. the other consideration is the catagory of customer ie would anyone feel confident telling a county council env official with a clipboard that the crap is going into landfill and create methane. its very subjective.

[BDCS]

I recently did a guano job, I have a waste transfer licence but had real grief getting rid of the waste unless I had 16 tonnes of it ! Nobody wants to get involved with any waste code ending in 99 and in the end a skip was the cheapest option. All waste emits methane when it rots and guano when adequately sanitised ios not considered hazardous but it is still guano. I usually use the px and pressure wash it wearing a A1P2 mask

[chores hygiene management ltd]

agreed but its back to whats classed as adequate sanitization ? a spray-out on crap that is not going to move is not the same as when its going to be lifted.

[The Great One]

Hi

That's why with Guano you spray constantly

Regards

Martin

[DREAM CLEAN]

Hi,

Martin is right, that is why you spray it with a biocide, normal waste,wheelie  bins on site can take them

Nick