[Graeme Smith]

Had it as confirmed (as I can without seeing it and testing) that the sealant on a black rio slate floor is lithofin slate seal. I know from an earlier thread that lithofin wax off will remove it. Will Aquamix SCR remove it as effectively? I would like to avoid wax off if possible. Used SCR before and it smells a fair bit but you can work with it. What do you all think??
Going to do a site visit sometime in the next few weeks.

[sherco]

Take both and see which one gets the best results. You could also try LTP Solvex.

[Graeme Smith]

cheers

[Kev Martin]

Graeme

I suppose it is unfair if I answer this because people think I will be predujiced towards Aqua Mix!  However, you have said it yourself really!  Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover does smell but in a strange way you can live with it unlike many others!  Added to that I also sell LTP and I am probably the cheapest in the Country so I don't lose if you buy the LTP Solvex off me either but I know which performs best and the one I would be happier with

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Jason Smith]

There is a zero odour waterbased gel available, in my opinion it works better than all the above products mentioned. No smell, never dries out and unlike traditional solvents you can rinse away with water.

I'd like to give you the information but it would upset Kevin as we don't pay for sponsorship   

[Floor_Tony]

Why did you make that post personal!? You can't help yourself, why don't you go on CT and see if you get away with as much as you do here!?

[Rob Hall]

I am also looking at other options to remove Lithofin Slate Seal.
Up to very recently, I WAS the West Yorkshire Tile Doctor. I noticed there was also another Tile Doctor on here who mentioned Aqua Mix products. I bought the Aqua Mix seal and coating remover and am due to try it on a slate floor soon.
I tried to contact the other Tile Docter via a web site in Surrey. Sadly, he didnt bother replying.
Jeremy Taylor claims he "stumbled" across my thread on the Surrey website and told me to remove the thread as it didnt make Tile Doctors product "Remove & Go" look good.
Thats because it doesnt work Jeremy!!
In my opinion and experiance with the product, it doesnt remove slate seal.
As I have now been given the elbow by Tile Doctor, I am free to talk as much as I want about the products.
So, in my opinion, you could do a lot better than trying Remove & Go to remove slate seal, I have tried it numerous times with no results.

I have to admit to taking an interest in the water based product that has been mentioned on this thread. Water based products in peoples houses has to be a bonus.

[Jason Smith]

Email me Rob and I'll help you out with some free samples to try of this water based gel.

We don't sell it, we just produce it for ourselves to use on restoration jobs.

[Kev Martin]

I am also looking at other options to remove Lithofin Slate Seal.
Up to very recently, I WAS the West Yorkshire Tile Doctor. I noticed there was also another Tile Doctor on here who mentioned Aqua Mix products. I bought the Aqua Mix seal and coating remover and am due to try it on a slate floor soon.
I tried to contact the other Tile Docter via a web site in Surrey. Sadly, he didnt bother replying.
Jeremy Taylor claims he "stumbled" across my thread on the Surrey website and told me to remove the thread as it didnt make Tile Doctors product "Remove & Go" look good.
Thats because it doesnt work Jeremy!!
In my opinion and experiance with the product, it doesnt remove slate seal.
As I have now been given the elbow by Tile Doctor, I am free to talk as much as I want about the products.
So, in my opinion, you could do a lot better than trying Remove & Go to remove slate seal, I have tried it numerous times with no results.

I have to admit to taking an interest in the water based product that has been mentioned on this thread. Water based products in peoples houses has to be a bonus.

Rob

Tile Doctors Remove & Go was Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover that's why it was so good.  Now it's something else!!!  There is no doubt that Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover absolutely destroys Lithofin Slate Seal and so will Aqua Mix Heavy Duty Tile & grout Cleaner with a dwell time and then either add Honing Powder or Aqua Mix NanoScrub as a booster simple!!!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Kev Martin]

There is a zero odour waterbased gel available, in my opinion it works better than all the above products mentioned. No smell, never dries out and unlike traditional solvents you can rinse away with water.

I'd like to give you the information but it would upset Kevin as we don't pay for sponsorship    
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Jason

At the request of the Moderators and some senior members of this Forum and as a mark of respect to the Forum Membership in general I have ignored your little digs and not replied to any of your moronic little posts.  This is my last polite request for you to cease, if however, you continue in the same vein with your crass comments I will withdraw myself and my sponsorship from this forum and put quite simply you can have the freedom to push your products!!!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Kev Martin]

There is a zero odour waterbased gel available, in my opinion it works better than all the above products mentioned. No smell, never dries out and unlike traditional solvents you can rinse away with water.

I'd like to give you the information but it would upset Kevin as we don't pay for sponsorship    
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Jason

At the request of the Moderators and some senior members of this Forum and as a mark of respect to the Forum Membership in general I have ignored your little digs and not replied to any of your moronic little posts.  This is my last polite request for you to cease, if however, you continue in the same vein with your crass comments I will withdraw myself and my sponsorship from this forum and put quite simply you can have the freedom to push your products!!!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Jason

At the request of the Moderators and some senior members of this Forum and as a mark of respect to the Forum Membership in general I have ignored your little digs and not replied to any of your moronic little posts.  This is my last polite request for you to cease, if however, you continue in the same vein with your crass comments I will withdraw myself and my sponsorship from this forum and put quite simply you can have the freedom to push your products!!!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[StoneSealersHQ]

Hi Graeme,

For an alternative and less expensive way of removing slate seal, take a look at Slate Seals msds and make a note of the solvent used. You can then use the same solvent to unlock the resin from the slate, it produces far less sticky goo associated with many stripping products and you don't run the risk of inadvertent caustic burns.

[Kev Martin]

Hi Graeme,

For an alternative and less expensive way of removing slate seal, take a look at Slate Seals msds and make a note of the solvent used. You can then use the same solvent to unlock the resin from the slate, it produces far less sticky goo associated with many stripping products and you don't run the risk of inadvertent caustic burns.

Graeme

The above post from Dave Carr is misleading on both counts!  Lithofin recommend Wax Off to remove Slate Seal!   Based on experience of removing 1000's M2 of slate seal and not reading MSDS Sheets, Wax Off will only remove fully cured Slate Seal with at least 2 Applications and I have known people having to use 3 applications even then Lithofin themselves recommend you use Lithofin Stain Away if Wax Off won't get it off.  Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover will strip it with one application and a short dwell time.  As for less Expensive!  The cost savings?  Well lets see,  Wax Off costs £11.04 + VAT and Aqua Mix S&CR costs £11.53 + VAT the saving is 49p!  Now you just need 2 x the amount of product and up to 3 x as long in man hours!  The decision is yours!

Kev Martin
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[Jason Smith]

This is a terrible and misleading post!!!  

Kevin, why don't you concentrate on the truth instead of misleading people with untruths about the weakness of Lithofins or any other products.

How desperate are you to sell your product, maybe we should send some of your posts to Peter at Casdron or Customs Building Products to see if they are happy with your statements and how you represent there product.

I don't care what you say, your tests have proved whatever... your example of evaluation and cost saving is totally false and unfounded and only stated for personal gain.

Dispite what Kevin will say, it's got nothing to do with my brand or dislike for him... it's just not how you should promote yourself or brand in my opinion.

I just hope the Members see it for what it is...

[Graeme Smith]

I have used SCR before on a kitchen floor. The customer had put a HG product (solvent based) on her quarry tiles. She'd cleaned them and applied a coating once a year for five years and then decided she did not like the look. THE SCR removed it in one go, so I can say I know it works just wondered what wax off was like as an alternative. One of my concerns is working with these chemicals and breathing them in.

[StoneSealersHQ]

Kevin you don't need a water based paint stripper to remove slate seal, anyone with any degree of chemical knowledge knows  and understands this. Please share some of your work with us, we can't find it on your partially completed website due to a lack of a portfolio. If you've achieved all these great things why aren't they shown, shared or promoted?

[Jason Smith]

I have used SCR before on a kitchen floor. The customer had put a HG product (solvent based) on her quarry tiles. She'd cleaned them and applied a coating once a year for five years and then decided she did not like the look. THE SCR removed it in one go, so I can say I know it works just wondered what wax off was like as an alternative. One of my concerns is working with these chemicals and breathing them in.

The HG product would have probably been Golv Polish, these types of polish products are quite easily removed so you would expect SCR to remove it without fuss... the same could be said for many types of high alkaline cleaners.

Removing high acrylic, poly urethane and epoxy coatings require more technical stripping products which is what is being discussed.

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

Gentlemen - I think you need to meet up, sit down and thrash this all out, because none of you are coming across well with all this bickering.

[terrazzoman]

why.....is this getting so personal.......were all running our companys to make a living, if one company finds a prduct/method works for them great.......but as we all know supply your staff with any type of chemical
they will not agree with each other on the use and results........as for removing/sealing natural stone i use a brand of chemical that works for me and we buy in other chemicals as needed and we try out other brands some good and some rubbish
kevin only gives his personal advice based on the chemicals he uses and sells you them,you ether take this free advice or not!!! but it comes across that a large amount of jealously for other contractors/chemical suppliers.........just my opineon!!!!! tony johnston

[Kev Martin]

Gentlemen - I think you need to meet up, sit down and thrash this all out, because none of you are coming across well with all this bickering.

Steve

I have e mailed you direct

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Kev Martin]

why.....is this getting so personal.......were all running our companys to make a living, if one company finds a prduct/method works for them great.......but as we all know supply your staff with any type of chemical
they will not agree with each other on the use and results........as for removing/sealing natural stone i use a brand of chemical that works for me and we buy in other chemicals as needed and we try out other brands some good and some rubbish
kevin only gives his personal advice based on the chemicals he uses and sells you them,you ether take this free advice or not!!! but it comes across that a large amount of jealously for other contractors/chemical suppliers.........just my opineon!!!!! tony johnston

Tony

I have e mailed you direct

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Graeme Smith]

In short SCR will remove it and wax off stinks more and as its me who is stripping it (potentially) I will use SCR as I am more familiar with it. If I could get it off with a high alkaline and a honing powder I'll do that instead.

[Jason Smith]

why.....is this getting so personal.......were all running our companys to make a living, if one company finds a prduct/method works for them great.......but as we all know supply your staff with any type of chemical
they will not agree with each other on the use and results........as for removing/sealing natural stone i use a brand of chemical that works for me and we buy in other chemicals as needed and we try out other brands some good and some rubbish
kevin only gives his personal advice based on the chemicals he uses and sells you them,you ether take this free advice or not!!! but it comes across that a large amount of jealously for other contractors/chemical suppliers.........just my opineon!!!!! tony johnston

Fair comment Tony, it's about professionalism, how can it be right if someone who is representing a brand falsely promote and quote inaccurate information for personal gain even if it's damaging against other recognised brands.

What do we have to be jealous about when we supply over 150 stockist and distributors within the UK?  

I think we all know it's not good practice to knock competitors brands and make false statements.  

[Jason Smith]

Kevin, please keep your direct emails professional as I've mentioned before any false slanderous damaging comments about myself or company will not be tolerated, we have never spoken slanderously about you or your company and wouldn't expect this in return.

[Kev Martin]

Jason

You cannot help yourself can you?  If I have anything to discuss or any problem regarding any company I just go straight to the Top I don't deal with managers!  So in your case it would be Mr Robson I would contact in St Helier!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[SteveAllan]

Anyone for Fila
Peace!!

[terrazzoman]

or..........Stone care europe chemicals......had to through that brand in !!

[sherco]

Could try Tenax too...

[Kev Martin]

or..........Stone care europe chemicals......had to through that brand in !!

Tony

I wasn't ignoring you mate and I am discussing SCE products with Tony!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Jason Smith]

Jason

You cannot help yourself can you?  If I have anything to discuss or any problem regarding any company I just go straight to the Top I don't deal with managers!  So in your case it would be Mr Robson I would contact in St Helier!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Another childish inaccurate Kevin, as a 50% owner of Universeal I gave myself the title as Business Manager, please feel free to call my partner.

[Kev Martin]

Another childish inaccurate Kevin, as a 50% owner of Universeal I gave myself the title as Business Manager, please feel free to call my partner.

There is nothing inaccurate as you put it about this or any other of my posts  If you own 50% of this Limited Liability Company that information is not recorded at Companies House! Period

[Jason Smith]

It's in my wifes name, like a lot of things about our business are not recorded at Companies House, it comes in handy having a Jersey company to keep business information private.   
 
 
 

[terrazzoman]

errr sounds you have somthing to hide ......to some folk !!

[SteveAllan]

This is crazy I'm oot!

[Graeme Smith]

I am going back to the cayman islands where my business is registered for tax reasons don't you know!

[terrazzoman]

why not fly into leeds bradford airport ever monday morning and fly back to the cayman islands for the week end.........

[Graeme Smith]

Does Ryan air do the Cayman islands? I would go executive class but I prefer the feelings of starvation and sensory deprivation caused by low cost air travel (just to see how the other half live)

[terrazzoman]

yes join the rough! and see how the poor live.....ohh a save a pew bob